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March 12, 2012 7:59:43 PM

Hi All,

I consider buying a GPU. I plan to play mostly strategy games, such as civilization5 and shogun total war 2, with occiosionaly first person shooters & RPG such as skyrim and battlefield 3. My display has 1920X1200 resolution, and I prefer to play at this resolution (I don't mind not playing at the highest quality settings - medium or high is fine with me).
If that matters, I'm a pretty slow player - you wouldn't want me on your team. :D 

I understandd that I should aim for the Radeon 6850 and the likes. However, noise (the lack off) is very important to me, as I mostly work on the computer and not play.

Originally, Radeon 6850 Cyclone edition was recommended to me (155$, 165$ for the OCed version). Then I discoverd that the ASUS GTX 560 is similarly priced. Then, I discover a swarm of other devices in this price range $150-$165.

Which model would you recommended me? If it is the MSI Radeon 6850 Cyclone, is there a *physical* difference between the OC version and the non-OC version (if it only the default speed, can I just set it manually?) ?

Again, noise is a major factor. If all is equal, a CUDA support is a slight advantage (matlab etc.).

Thanks ahead!

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a c 230 U Graphics card
March 12, 2012 8:20:01 PM

This may help

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 140.00 6850 (371/634) $ 0.38 - $ 0.44
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 350.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.67 - $ 0.85
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 250.00 560-448 (501/835) $ 0.50 - $ 0.60

At your price range, I'm liking the 6870 at $0.37 per frame .... but at your resolution and w/ BF3 (and CUDA), ya really should try and move up $50 or so.
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a b U Graphics card
March 12, 2012 8:41:17 PM

You won´t be able to play the games you mentioned with cards at range of $150-$160.

As JackNaylorPE pointed out, you might gave to spend a bit more. So if you consider CUDA an advantage then you´re talking about Nvidia cards.

I recommend you a MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 12, 2012 8:48:47 PM

Thanks!

Is the Asus GTX 560 (ASUS ENGTX560) slower/noiser than the msi card?
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a b U Graphics card
March 12, 2012 11:51:14 PM

I do not own any of those cards, so I can´t tell you about any noise issues between the the brands.
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March 13, 2012 3:01:26 AM

I own some of those cards but noise level also depends on what case your using also let's put these at stock clocks
7750 = this is very quite using a good case
7770 = this is very quite using a good case
6850 (sapphire) = this is almost quite
6870 (sapphire) = still quite but barely depending on usage
560ti (msi twin frozr II/OC) = quite at stable usage but with heavy usage it's noisy
560ti (hawk msi) = quite at stable usage but with heavy usage it's noisy
6950 (sapphire) = quite at stable usage but with heavy usage it's noisy
6970 (sapphire) = quite at stable usage but with heavy usage it's noisy

this is testing on these cases

Corsair 800D
Level 10 GT
Haf X
Cosmos II
NZXT Phantom
Antec 300

all are tested on MSi Z68A-GD65 (G3) motherboard and intel i5 2500K

so i suggest the 6850 for being quite and at your price range

I would love to test 7850 and 7870 but sadly I don't have them yet.

but if your going with CUDA i suggest getting a Nvidia 560 or 560ti seeing as MSi has the more expensive version try with evga or those cheaper palit/gainward/zotac they are all the same pretty much unless your looking at those customs ones and just look for whichever has better warranty service.
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March 13, 2012 3:26:43 AM

jemm said:
You won´t be able to play the games you mentioned with cards at range of $150-$160.

As JackNaylorPE pointed out, you might gave to spend a bit more. So if you consider CUDA an advantage then you´re talking about Nvidia cards.

I recommend you a MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


what are you talking about he cant play skyrim and bf 3?I played skyrim maxed out pretty much with the lowest priced card on that list the gtx 460.I could also play bf 3 on ultra minus AA and push 30 fps pretty constant and played pretty smooth.Any of those cards will work nicely at the res hes playing at.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 9:41:30 AM

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what are you talking about he cant play skyrim and bf 3?I played skyrim maxed out pretty much with the lowest priced card on that list the gtx 460.I could also play bf 3 on ultra minus AA and push 30 fps pretty constant and played pretty smooth.Any of those cards will work nicely at the res hes playing at.


The OP wishes to play them at 1920X1200 resolution -- can yourself play Skyrim and BF3 with your GTX 460 on the settings you mentioned at that resolution?

That´s what I am talking about.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 1:22:02 PM

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I play Skyrim MAXED with many many Graphical enhancement mods on a GTX 275 no problems at all plays well considering Skyrim "DOES NOT" take a whole lot of GPU power it is a CPU heavy game and a crappy codded one at that.


BF3 needs 1.2GB VRAM to play at higher setting.

Do play it with DirectX 11?
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a c 130 U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 1:26:52 PM

jemm said:
The OP wishes to play them at 1920X1200 resolution -- can yourself play Skyrim and BF3 with your GTX 460 on the settings you mentioned at that resolution?

That´s what I am talking about.


No the op specifically said he wants to play at that resolution. BUT This was also stated.

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(I don't mind not playing at the highest quality settings - medium or high is fine with me).


You are incorrect regarding the abilities of the cards mentioned. I myself can play Skyrim maxed out @ 1920 X1080 on either of my machines and the second one is of a noticeably lower spec.

Mactronix :) 
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 1:28:33 PM

6870 plays BF3 on ULTRA - Ive tested it myself - Nuff said. If anyone wants to prove me wrong I invite you to try.
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March 13, 2012 1:37:36 PM

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What does BF3 have to do with Skyrim ? PS I play that game with a 45fps average


The OP wants to play BF3 at higher settings at 1920X1200 resolution.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 1:51:00 PM

jemm said:
The OP wants to play BF3 at higher settings at 1920X1200 resolution.



Once again this is what was said.

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(I don't mind not playing at the highest quality settings - medium or high is fine with me).


Not what you have said at all :pfff: 


Mactronix :) 
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March 13, 2012 2:21:07 PM

at 1920 X1080 you can play BF3 and Skrim high to max. my 6850 is overclocked to stock of most 6870s. I can get 35-45 FPS on high with some ultra settings on BF3 and Skyrim is not that intensive. You can run Max settings for Skyrim again at 1920 X1080 for both games.
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a b U Graphics card
March 13, 2012 4:18:02 PM

"Another great product is starting to become much more scarce: Nvidia's 256-bit GeForce GTX 460 1 GB card, which Nvidia's partners are quietly supplementing with a 1 GB, 192-bit version. In essence, that's the old 768 MB model with a little more memory, but the same crippled bus and fewer ROPs. The consequence of this is a performance profile that's similar to the $130 Radeon HD 6790. Because Nvidia is trying to sell this board between $140 and $160, we aren't going to recommend it." http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

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March 23, 2012 7:20:02 AM

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