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May 16, 2012 6:55:10 PM

Hi
I already have the case and DVD-RW so I have $600 for the rest of the build. I can't go over $600, my initial budget was $525 so I am way up already.
I want a HD 7850 so badly.. I can squeeze it in my budget if I get a core i3 2120 and a cheap h61 mobo. But i don't really like the idea of getting a dual core.

Do you think a phenom ii x4 (overclocked) will bottleneck and HD 7850. Should i get an i5 2400 and a hd 6950 instead?

Should I get 4GB of RAM instead of 8GB and save $20?

I found the Antec Neo Eco 520 at newegg for $50.00. I think It can handle the system well and it is a good quality unit. SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze is $60. As far as i now they are the same unit, but seasonic is more efficient and it is modular.

My resolution at the moment is 1680x1050. I am planing to go 1080p like in 6 months. I will mostly play guild wars 2 and some RPGs and Real Time Strategy games. I dont play FPS games.

I really appreciate any advise you can give me.
Thanks!

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May 16, 2012 7:07:33 PM

i doubt you would really need a 7850 for a GPU if all you will be playing RPG, and RTS

a Phenom x4 will not bottleneck a 7850 i would suggest it over i3 as i3+board cost a decent amount more than a AMD+board and you get to Overclock

Modular keeps the case clean so if you are going with a small/cheap case try to fit a modular PSU inside the budget even if it is 400 Watts(7850 doesnt take over 200 Watts)

you can change 8GB to 4GB we just recommend it since it is so cheap on the market right now(try to get 4GB@1600 Speed)

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May 16, 2012 7:17:02 PM

He's right about the 7850.. you don't need it for RPGs. I'd go with a 560 Ti or a 6870... it would be fine. Don't go AMD... Clock speeds aren't everything, and Intel is substantially better for gaming. I wouldn't go for an H61 chipset, either. The cheapest Z68 mobo is the ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 at $105 (at least, the cheapest I know of). Anything else is either terrible (like H61) or unnecessary (like the Z77 and/or X## series). Modular isn't necessary.
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May 16, 2012 7:31:12 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... This is the cheapest 560Ti i can find .... Well ECS is selling one for $205 but I think Zotac is a better brand and this one is factory overclocked.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... this one is just $200. However, I've heard that the real strength of this HD6950 cards is that They can unlock to 6970. This one can not unlock.

Do you think the 7850 is worth the extra $40 ? If not, what should I choose, AMD or Nvidia?

Why is the H61 bad? If I spend $40 extra to get a Z68 mobo, I will be stupid if i dont spend another $40 to get the 2500k. Right?
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May 16, 2012 10:42:05 PM

I don't know much about Zotac. I'd try EVGA for a cheaper one, or HIS.

The 7850 isn't necessary for your needs... so it's not worth it. Otherwise, it would be.

The H61 just has a lot of stuff that it is unable to do besides the overclocking aspect. Z68 isn't just for overclocking.
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May 16, 2012 11:11:24 PM

vehlor said:
Hi
I already have the case and DVD-RW so I have $600 for the rest of the build. I can't go over $600, my initial budget was $525 so I am way up already.
I want a HD 7850 so badly.. I can squeeze it in my budget if I get a core i3 2120 and a cheap h61 mobo. But i don't really like the idea of getting a dual core.

Do you think a phenom ii x4 (overclocked) will bottleneck and HD 7850. Should i get an i5 2400 and a hd 6950 instead?

Should I get 4GB of RAM instead of 8GB and save $20?

I found the Antec Neo Eco 520 at newegg for $50.00. I think It can handle the system well and it is a good quality unit. SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze is $60. As far as i now they are the same unit, but seasonic is more efficient and it is modular.

My resolution at the moment is 1680x1050. I am planing to go 1080p like in 6 months. I will mostly play guild wars 2 and some RPGs and Real Time Strategy games. I dont play FPS games.

I really appreciate any advise you can give me.
Thanks!

Besides the case and DVD-RW, what else is not needed? OS? HDD?

I would agree with most who have posted, your needs do not require a 7850. I would suggest an HD6870 over a 560Ti. The 6870 is cheaper and is very comparable to a 560Ti: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=330
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May 16, 2012 11:46:42 PM

Here is one possible build for around $600:

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (11201-00-20G)
Item #: N82E16814102967
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99

AMD Gift - Dirt SHOWDOWN Gift Coupon
Item #: N82E16800995124
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$59.99 Saving
$0.00

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231428
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$46.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99

MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813130637
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139028
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$15.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$144.98

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148767
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant
-$18.00 Combo
$181.98

Total ~$609 (not including shipping or factoring in rebates which total $35)
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May 17, 2012 12:02:17 AM

maui67 said:
Here is one possible build for around $600:

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (11201-00-20G)
Item #: N82E16814102967
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99

AMD Gift - Dirt SHOWDOWN Gift Coupon
Item #: N82E16800995124
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$59.99 Saving
$0.00

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231428
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$46.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$99.99

MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813130637
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139028
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
-$15.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$144.98

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148767
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant
-$18.00 Combo
$181.98

Total ~$609 (not including shipping or factoring in rebates which total $35)


TBH i really don't like 77** series it just feels terrible having one i rather go with a 6850

here is a good one for $139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 17, 2012 12:15:52 AM

do you need a hard drive? i can probably build something for you.

edit: having a hard time fitting an 6850 with a 2400 together. so that leaves the option for you to use an i3-2120 or use an overclocked amd processor.

essentially heres your budget:

600
-100$ OS
_____
500$
-~80$ hdd
_____
420$
-~45$ 8 GB ram
_____
375$
(~395 on final build when comboed)

so with that 375$, you need to purchase: GPU, MOBO, CPU, and PSU

the gpu, mobo and cpu already cost at least 100$ each for a quality one, if your doing intel based builds, there's a gap from i3-2120 for 125$ to the i5-2400 for 190$(180 with -10$ code) so an i5 will almost be impossible to use unless you drain the money out of a mobo(which is probably the only solution, meaning no overclocking for you) and the psu to support that will be ~60.

You have a few choices

i5 with an h67/b75/h77 mobo with ~6850
an amd phenom 965 be overclocked with a decent mobo with 6850/6870
an i3 with an z77/z68 with 6850+ is how i would see it
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May 17, 2012 12:41:03 AM

The parts I have are :
case, DVD Writer, Windows 7 X64
I need:
Mobo
CPU
RAM
Hard Drive
PSU
Video Card

I know that the HD 7850 is overkill but, is the 560Ti enough ?
The difference between those cards is only $40 and as far as I know the HD 7850 is vastly superior and will allow me to use a 500watts psu without problems.
I know the i3 2120 is a good gaming CPU but I am afraid that I will limit me in WvW (guild wars 2) for being only a dual core.
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May 17, 2012 1:08:10 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this GPU is almost as cheap as most 560TI

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this PSU is $59.99 with rebates and it has a 15% promo card on it

Hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79.99 with Promo it will be $69.99

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i usually recommend 8GB but if you want to save some extra going with 4gb is good
(8GB of ram is recommended because it is very cheap)
with an extra $20 you can get 8GB of ram at the same speed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU/HDD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo: taking some time on this very hard to decide with a 600 budget if you can move the budget to $700 i can put in a nice board with some future upgrades

EDIT: ahhh found the problem in here it was me trying to fit a 7850 into a $600 build

go for something simple like a 6850 it will do the job for the games you are playing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (100315L )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this mobo will let you have an upgrade in the future
don't mind about the i3 you will save a lot more if you use the i3 with a z77 then upgrade later to an i5 3570k than going with an i5 with an H67

the budget allows you to upgrade Ram to 8GB if you need. and go with the same PSU
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May 17, 2012 1:09:57 AM

vehlor said:
The parts I have are :
case, DVD Writer, Windows 7 X64
I need:
Mobo
CPU
RAM
Hard Drive
PSU
Video Card

I know that the HD 7850 is overkill but, is the 560Ti enough ?
The difference between those cards is only $40 and as far as I know the HD 7850 is vastly superior and will allow me to use a 500watts psu without problems.
I know the i3 2120 is a good gaming CPU but I am afraid that I will limit me in WvW (guild wars 2) for being only a dual core.

560ti and 6870 are good cards. It's hard to want it all when you have a tight budget. I wouldn't skimp on the PSU, CPU, or mobo though. Get a 560ti or 6870, they're more than enough unless you're trying to max out shooters on high resolutions. In which case you're fighting a losing battle unless you want to spend $400 on a GPU.
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May 17, 2012 1:50:46 AM

Heres what i have so far:

sapphire 6850 + 8 gb ram 192$

Samsung Spinpoint 500 gb80 - 10$ with code EMCNEJJ22

Rosewill Hive 550w 70-10.50=59.50$
code RW15PSUM or an alternative 60$ psu is fine

I5-2400 + Z68 asrock pro3gen3 277$

Total: ~599. so if you want to upgrade gpu, that's additional on the 600$

brb posting other alternative


Same PS/HDD as above

Biostar TZ77b + I5-3450 + 8 gb corsair with free intel shirt and free 15ft male to female usb extention cable ~320

Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 alone 150$

Total 599.44

like above, any extra gpu addons will cost you more
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May 17, 2012 12:38:38 PM

The sad true is that $600 aren't enough to buy what I want. I need like $750. The 2500k is so powerful that if you know how to overclock, getting another core i5 is not worth it in my opinion. I also think that getting a card more powerful than the HD 6870 with a core i3 2120 is going to be unbalanced. So I chose the i3 2120 and the HD 6870. Since I know that I wont upgrade this in 12 - 18 months, I didn't spend money on a Z68/77 mobo. Since I can't get what I want, I decided to save as much as possible. I just got the cheapest H61 board I found. The Antec Earth Watss 380D was on sale for $38. It may not be enough for future upgrades, but I am not upgrading this build. In one year I will just sell it and see what I can do. I sold my old system in $425.

It was : Athlon II X3 425 / HD 5770 / 4GB DDR2800 / HDD 300GB

I got all this parts for $466. I think that $41 built me a much better machine.
Here is what I ordered.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (compatible with mobo for sure)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (It was 15% off yesterday, LOL)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks for helping me to put an impossible build toguether.
:) 

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May 24, 2012 3:54:56 AM

Best answer selected by Vehlor.
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May 24, 2012 10:58:34 AM

FYI, that'll barely game, but it's STILL better than my laptop! :lol: 
I can play some games with six year old IGP. I think you'll be fine on low settings at some lower resolutions.
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May 24, 2012 10:59:22 AM

Also, you'll be able to put a build together with cheap components, so if you really mess up on something, you're not out like 1.5k! If you have any more questions, feel free to post theme here or pm one of us!
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