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March 14, 2012 11:37:35 AM

Hey i've been running 3dmark 11 recently and my results are always low compared to similar systems. I keep getting around P4160-70, with a graphics score of 4350-60 when the targeted graphics score is 4400. The other components are alright.


My specs: MSI 560 ti TFII OC (880, 1760, 2100 for core, shader and memory clocks), intel i3 2100, 8gb ddr3 gskill ram, z68 mobo.

While many will say that the average user has a heavily overclocked system, upon checking the core and memory clock, many of those with higher graphics score are at the same stock speeds as my gpu, averaging about 4500. Could this be due do any physical defects/damages or should i rma it?

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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2012 11:44:26 AM

there are a lot of variable, maybe you have something running on background, driver version, too much heat, if your graphics card is cold it is normal.

maybe with better cpu the score would be higher...

check your driver version, this can change a lot performance, are you using x64 system? etc...

there is no need to RMA a graphics card, just because your score is not what you wanted, have you checked if the other users graphics card are not in SLI? or if they are the 448 cores version? that will change scores a lot.
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March 14, 2012 12:17:23 PM

Yo thnx man. Yes, i am using Windows 7 x64. Latest drivers installed, currently 295.73. Results were filtered to systems without sli only. Nothing else other than PowerIso and AVG in taskbar. Will 64-bit make a difference?

From what I understand targeted graphics score changes very little with cpu. For an i5 2500k the targeted graphics score was only 4500, but this seems to be a bad "target" as most people exceed by a thousand or so. All other entries are 560 ti, mostly factory overclocked like mine. No reference 560ti cards (822 MHz) or 448 are in the list. (448 is considered another gpu model in 3dmark 11).

Here, check this out.
http://3dmark.com/healthcheck/3dm11/1608135


How is it possible I get lower scores with exact clock speeds? Still looking for answers now that i have ruled those possibilities out.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2012 12:40:04 PM

rrkkass said:
Yo thnx man. Yes, i am using Windows 7 x64. Latest drivers installed, currently 295.73. Results were filtered to systems without sli only. Nothing else other than PowerIso and AVG in taskbar. Will 64-bit make a difference?

From what I understand targeted graphics score changes very little with cpu. For an i5 2500k the targeted graphics score was only 4500, but this seems to be a bad "target" as most people exceed by a thousand or so. All other entries are 560 ti, mostly factory overclocked like mine. No reference 560ti cards (822 MHz) or 448 are in the list. (448 is considered another gpu model in 3dmark 11).

Here, check this out.
http://3dmark.com/healthcheck/3dm11/1608135


How is it possible I get lower scores with exact clock speeds? Still looking for answers now that i have ruled those possibilities out.


can't check list right now, but it is normall different values, if they are TOO low, you may be with some problem, otherwise, it may be overclocked, CPUs, overclocked Memory, Clean Operational System, and maybe those scores aren't in the latest drivers, sometimes old drivers performs better than new ones for specific applications, also latest ones now are 296.10.

unless the scores are really low i really don't think you have any problem there.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
March 14, 2012 1:04:42 PM

3D Mark has always been CPU dependent despite it being a GPU benchmark.
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March 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM

ricardois said:
can't check list right now, but it is normall different values, if they are TOO low, you may be with some problem, otherwise, it may be overclocked, CPUs, overclocked Memory, Clean Operational System, and maybe those scores aren't in the latest drivers, sometimes old drivers performs better than new ones for specific applications, also latest ones now are 296.10.

unless the scores are really low i really don't think you have any problem there.


Alright. Guess it's fine after all. Thanks man.
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March 14, 2012 2:39:56 PM

Mousemonkey said:
3D Mark has always been CPU dependent despite it being a GPU benchmark.

That must be Why is always scores higher on Intel/Nvidia was 3Dmark sponsored buy Intel/Nvidia ???
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March 14, 2012 3:17:23 PM

Captain Kirk said:
That must be Why is always scores higher on Intel/Nvidia was 3Dmark sponsored buy Intel/Nvidia ???


Cpu dependant means that it requires a high ammount of cpu processing and not just gpu, if Intel has highest scores is because the intel cpus are better... (could be possible be a bottlenecking code for amd cpus, but that is improbable, since there are amd cpus on top too.)
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March 14, 2012 3:27:04 PM

ricardois said:
Cpu dependant means that it requires a high ammount of cpu processing and not just gpu, if Intel has highest scores is because the intel cpus are better... (could be possible be a bottlenecking code for amd cpus, but that is improbable, since there are amd cpus on top too.)

i have also noticed that many benchmarks ans certain games are rigged to perform better on the sponsors hardware with not regard to what hardwares are better.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2012 4:27:04 PM

Captain Kirk said:
i have also noticed that many benchmarks ans certain games are rigged to perform better on the sponsors hardware with not regard to what hardwares are better.


it is because the hardware architectures are a little different, and if they do the game based on one hardware, it can perform a little better with that architecture, i don't think they would forcely down performance on any hardware, that is conspiracy...
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March 14, 2012 4:33:25 PM

ricardois said:
it is because the hardware architectures are a little different, and if they do the game based on one hardware, it can perform a little better with that architecture, i don't think they would forcely down performance on any hardware, that is conspiracy...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-amd-ati-graphic...

Somehow I don't think the scandal has ever stopped.
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March 24, 2012 6:05:55 AM

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