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I'm starting to seriously consider going back to an SLR, and was looking at
a D70s the other day. At one point, it struck me that there was something
seriously off about the kit lens, but couldn't figure it out until I put
the camera into aperture priority mode. Then it hit me. The lens didn't
have an aperture ring on it. I figured out that you adjust the aperture
with a little wheel just in front of the shutter release, which is fine...

But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
aperture rings? What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
with this camera?

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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
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> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
> aperture rings?

I think there is a custom mode in D70s which enable you to select between
setting the aperture from the ring or from the dial.

What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
> with this camera?

It can work BUT you won't be able to meter using it. So if you are out and
about on a bright sunny day, remember the Sunny 16 rules and apply that.
1 out of 3 shots will be perfect ;)
PS : nikkor AI micro I think is a 55/ 2.8

=bob=

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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm starting to seriously consider going back to an SLR, and was looking
> at
> a D70s the other day. At one point, it struck me that there was something
> seriously off about the kit lens, but couldn't figure it out until I put
> the camera into aperture priority mode. Then it hit me. The lens didn't
> have an aperture ring on it. I figured out that you adjust the aperture
> with a little wheel just in front of the shutter release, which is fine...
>
> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
> aperture rings? What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4
> 55mm
> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
> with this camera?

Welcome to the world of Nikon.

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Paul Fedorenko wrote:
> I'm starting to seriously consider going back to an SLR, and was looking at
> a D70s the other day. At one point, it struck me that there was something
> seriously off about the kit lens, but couldn't figure it out until I put
> the camera into aperture priority mode. Then it hit me. The lens didn't
> have an aperture ring on it. I figured out that you adjust the aperture
> with a little wheel just in front of the shutter release, which is fine...
>
> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
> aperture rings? What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
> with this camera?

I would say pretty good, actually:

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/insects

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/flora

http://www.pbase.com/sirchandestroy/various_macro

I've had no problems with the fully manual 55mm 2.8 Micro lens...

Ben

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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:04:29 +1000, "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net>
wrote:

> It can work BUT you won't be able to meter using it. So if you are out and
> about on a bright sunny day, remember the Sunny 16 rules and apply that.
> 1 out of 3 shots will be perfect ;)
> PS : nikkor AI micro I think is a 55/ 2.8

There's an AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (Ai-S) lens. I wouldn't be
surprised if they also made a 55mm f/2.8, but I'm not a Nikkor
historian. :)

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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
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a fully manual F1.4 55mm

Ain't no such thing.

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ASAAR wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:04:29 +1000, "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net>
> wrote:
>
> > It can work BUT you won't be able to meter using it. So if you are out and
> > about on a bright sunny day, remember the Sunny 16 rules and apply that.
> > 1 out of 3 shots will be perfect ;)
> > PS : nikkor AI micro I think is a 55/ 2.8
>
> There's an AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (Ai-S) lens. I wouldn't be
> surprised if they also made a 55mm f/2.8, but I'm not a Nikkor
> historian. :)

They do, or did, make the 55mm 2.8.

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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
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> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
> aperture rings?

You leave the aperture ring locked at the smallest aperture all the time and
adjust it from the camera.

> What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
> with this camera?

Set whatever shutter speed and aperture you like. You can't use the meter,
but other than that it should work fine.

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"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote:

>
> "Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
> news:qcjze.10163$Ud.1118089@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
>> aperture rings?
>
> I think there is a custom mode in D70s which enable you to select between
> setting the aperture from the ring or from the dial.

No there isn't since the D70s doesn't have the AI tab to be able to read the
lens aperture ring setting. All AF (or AI-P) lenses must have their
aperture rings set to the minimum.

> What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
>> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those
>> work with this camera?
>
> It can work BUT you won't be able to meter using it. So if you are out and
> about on a bright sunny day, remember the Sunny 16 rules and apply that.
> 1 out of 3 shots will be perfect ;)

And remember you can use the histogram and highlights display mode to give
you a rough idea of what the exposure was like allowing you to retake
complete howlers.


> PS : nikkor AI micro I think is a 55/ 2.8

Or f/3.5.

Ronnie

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"ASAAR" <caught@22.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:04:29 +1000, "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net>
> wrote:
>
>> It can work BUT you won't be able to meter using it. So if you are out
>> and
>> about on a bright sunny day, remember the Sunny 16 rules and apply that.
>> 1 out of 3 shots will be perfect ;)
>> PS : nikkor AI micro I think is a 55/ 2.8
>
> There's an AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (Ai-S) lens. I wouldn't be
> surprised if they also made a 55mm f/2.8, but I'm not a Nikkor
> historian. :)
>

AF lens is not AIs :) around 1970's the OP could only have the AI version as
the AF version is out in the late 80's iirc.


=bob=

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"Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm starting to seriously consider going back to an SLR, and was looking
> at
> a D70s the other day. At one point, it struck me that there was something
> seriously off about the kit lens, but couldn't figure it out until I put
> the camera into aperture priority mode. Then it hit me. The lens didn't
> have an aperture ring on it. I figured out that you adjust the aperture
> with a little wheel just in front of the shutter release, which is fine...
>
> But how would that work with older lenses, say a D-series, which do have
> aperture rings?

Set the lens's aperture ring to the smallest aperture setting and, If there
is a locking tab, lock it at that aperture to avoid accidentally moving it
to another aperture setting.

>What about really old lenses line a fully manual F1.4 55mm
> macro that's been in the family since the late 70's? How would those work
> with this camera?

If it is an AI or later lens, then it can be used with this camera, but some
of the auto exposure functions will not work. Of course, since the early
lenses were manual focus, the camera's autofocus functions will not work.

Since all of these issues are discussed in the camera's instruction manual,
it is rather obvious that you haven't taken the time to read it. RTFM!!!

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"Ken Burns" <kenburns@twave.net> wrote in
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>
> "Paul Fedorenko" <pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote in message
> news:qcjze.10163$Ud.1118089@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> I'm starting to seriously consider going back to an SLR, and was
>> looking at
>> a D70s the other day.
<<SNIP>>
> Since all of these issues are discussed in the camera's instruction
> manual, it is rather obvious that you haven't taken the time to read
> it. RTFM!!!
>
>

Ummm... It is rather obvious to me that he does not own the camera (and
thus does not have the manual) but was just checked one out in a store.
Maybe YOU should RTFM!!! message, that is... and take a chill pill! :)

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"PanHandler" <panhandler@whiskey.net> wrote in message
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> a fully manual F1.4 55mm
>
> Ain't no such thing.

Alright, alright, alright. It's a 2.8. Geez. Haven't used the thing in a
while. Cut a guy some slack. <grin>

It has a slot for a coupling pin, that's how old it is.

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"Ken Burns" <kenburns@twave.net> wrote in message
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> Since all of these issues are discussed in the camera's instruction
> manual, it is rather obvious that you haven't taken the time to read it.
> RTFM!!!

Mr. Burns,

Although I appreciate your enthusiasm, and agree that reading the manual is
generally the best place to start with any new piece of equipment, I must
say in my defense that it's generally hard to RTFM when looking at a display
model in a store. I therefore decided to post my question on this group,
knowing that it's full of people who would have the answers to such
questions. Mind you, all this was outlined in my original post.

In future, perhaps you could follow your own advice and Read the F*$king
Post before giving this sort of advice? Hmmm? Yes... Common sense...

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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:03:54 +1000, "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net>
wrote:

>> There's an AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (Ai-S) lens. I wouldn't be
>> surprised if they also made a 55mm f/2.8, but I'm not a Nikkor
>> historian. :)
>>
>
> AF lens is not AIs :) around 1970's the OP could only have the AI version as
> the AF version is out in the late 80's iirc.

I think your time frame is accurate, but did you mean to say that
"AI is not AF", since the 60mm Ai-S is definitely an AF lens? Or
maybe you intended to say "AI is not Ai-S"? :)

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Here's the manual.


http://support.nikontech.com/cgi-b [...] _topview=1

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Try here. http://www.nikonlinks.com/unklbil/nomenclature.htm
I guess I need to update my database :)

=bob=

"ASAAR" <caught@22.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:03:54 +1000, "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net>
> wrote:
>
>>> There's an AF Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (Ai-S) lens. I wouldn't be
>>> surprised if they also made a 55mm f/2.8, but I'm not a Nikkor
>>> historian. :)
>>>
>>
>> AF lens is not AIs :) around 1970's the OP could only have the AI version
>> as
>> the AF version is out in the late 80's iirc.
>
> I think your time frame is accurate, but did you mean to say that
> "AI is not AF", since the 60mm Ai-S is definitely an AF lens? Or
> maybe you intended to say "AI is not Ai-S"? :)
>

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"Ken Burns" <kenburns@twave.net> wrote in message
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> Here's the manual.

Thank you kindly. I'm sure it'll be very informative.

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On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:51:26 -0400, "Paul Fedorenko"
<pfedorenko@look.ca> wrote:

[..]
>In future, perhaps you could follow your own advice and Read the F*$king
>Post before giving this sort of advice? Hmmm? Yes... Common sense...

Actually, there are two explanations of RTFM. The other is R(ead)
T(he) F(ine) M(anual), so the expression is not necessarily offensive.

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