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March 15, 2012 4:51:23 PM

I am building a 6 monitor PC for trading (No gaming) and could use some help. I am going to run 6 ASUS VE248H monitors. I will just be running web based apps, MS Office, e-mail, browsing. I want a stable system. I am currently running a Intel Core2Duo 2.1ghz with 2gb ram that has gotten significantly bogged down with all of the charts and price quote windows that I run.

For a motherboard I want to run the ASUS F1A75-V PRO FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

My main question is: Can I run 3 of the monitors off of the motherboard's included HDMI, DVI, and Display Port? I would look at adding http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... as iknowhowtofixit suggested in a similar thread. The second card of course would run the three other monitors.

Additionally, what Power Supply would be advisable?
Also not looking to overclock the CPU, do I need a different CPU? As mentioned above, the new system needs to be rock solid and reliable, not overworked.

Thanks!

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March 15, 2012 5:33:01 PM

Antec VP-450 450W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I put those 550W and 520W because they are modular and maybe don't need to much cables in your PC.
That combo what you choosed is verry good.
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March 15, 2012 5:44:54 PM

The ASUS F1A75-V PRO motherboard supports a maximum of two displays. You cannot use the DVI and HDMI ports at the same time to display different images on each display (i.e. the video signals are internally wired together for both ports. They're not independent.).
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March 15, 2012 5:48:21 PM

The only single cards which can run more than 2 monitors are either SLI or AMD cards in Eyefinity. Eyefinity does have setups for up to 6 monitors, but I believe they require displayport setups to do it, I know for sure the above setups won't work.

They make single cards which can run 6 monitors, but it's expensive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Otherwise you could get one with a couple displayports and run them off dongles, but I don't know where you find dongles that allow 3 monitors to run on a single dongle.

Here is a facts page for eyefinity: http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefini...

It may also be possible to run the six monitors on 3 graphics cards not in sli or crossfire, and setup an extended desktop, but I'm not sure that works or not and I've never seen confirmation from anyone making it work.
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March 15, 2012 6:20:41 PM

ko888 good answer. I was curious to know if the motherboard could drive 3 monitors so I could just add a single video card to run the other 3.

bystander. I did look into an eyefinity 6 solution, and while expensive, I am not finding the available. I looked at a 5870 and 6870 but are on backorder at several vendors. The 6 port cards appear to be overkill for my application.

It looks like I will run 2x 6450's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It looks like an economical setup.

Should I buy 2 of these, would it drive all 6 monitors with no issues?

Thanks
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March 15, 2012 6:44:36 PM

In that case you don't need to go with FM1 socket and CPU if you don't benefit the integrated GPU from CPU.
You can buy a mobo with PCIE lane running at x16 and x8 for the second video card.
MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 90$
AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 78$
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 65$
And buy 2 X 6450.
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March 15, 2012 8:05:43 PM

technicaltrader said:
ko888 good answer. I was curious to know if the motherboard could drive 3 monitors so I could just add a single video card to run the other 3.

bystander. I did look into an eyefinity 6 solution, and while expensive, I am not finding the available. I looked at a 5870 and 6870 but are on backorder at several vendors. The 6 port cards appear to be overkill for my application.

It looks like I will run 2x 6450's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It looks like an economical setup.

Should I buy 2 of these, would it drive all 6 monitors with no issues?

Thanks

That should work.

For a system using two Radeon HD 6450 graphics cards in 2-way CrossFireX mode AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater power supply. The power supply should also have a combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 20 Amps or greater.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Continuous Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important factor.

Example:
The Seasonic X-SERIES FANLESS 400W (X-400FANLESS), with its combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 33 Amps and with one 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector, is more than sufficient to power your system configuration with two Radeon HD 6450.
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March 15, 2012 8:46:19 PM

ko888 said:
That should work.

For a system using two Radeon HD 6450 graphics cards in 2-way CrossFireX mode AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater power supply. The power supply should also have a combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 20 Amps or greater.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Continuous Amperage Available on the +12V Rail(s) is the most important factor.

Example:
The Seasonic X-SERIES FANLESS 400W (X-400FANLESS), with its combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 33 Amps and with one 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector, is more than sufficient to power your system configuration with two Radeon HD 6450.


No, this will not work, at least not in crossfireX mode. CrossfireX requires that all monitors be hooked up to the primary card and they can only run 2 monitors, except in eyefinity configuration in which case eyefinity requires that at most 2 monitors can be hooked up to non DP connections (read the faq I posted earlier). This card has no DP connection, there for not possible in crossfireX.

There could be a possibility that you can run these outside crossfireX in an extended desktop, but I cannot find confirmation that it can work.

Edit: Nvidia might allow for multiple cards using DVI connections. You might want to check their website.
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March 15, 2012 9:08:23 PM

bystander said:
No, this will not work, at least not in crossfireX mode. CrossfireX requires that all monitors be hooked up to the primary card and they can only run 2 monitors, except in eyefinity configuration in which case eyefinity requires that at most 2 monitors can be hooked up to non DP connections (read the faq I posted earlier). This card has no DP connection, there for not possible in crossfireX.

There could be a possibility that you can run these outside crossfireX in an extended desktop, but I cannot find confirmation that it can work.

Edit: Nvidia might allow for multiple cards using DVI connections. You might want to check their website.

Sorry, my mistake.

I glanced too quickly at that HDMI port and thought it was a DisplayPort.

Would have to go with at least two of VisionTek 900464 Radeon HD 6570 or VisionTek 900463 Radeon HD 6570.
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March 15, 2012 9:14:52 PM

Again, those won't work in CrossfireX, as there is a single DP connection, which can support at max, 3 monitors (assuming you can find a DP dongle). Have you been able to find where to buy DP dongles that support 3 monitors? If you can find that, then you just need to find a card with at least 2 DP ports, and crossfireX shouldn't be required either.
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March 15, 2012 9:21:13 PM

bystander said:
Again, those won't work in CrossfireX, as there is a single DP connection, which can support at max, 3 monitors (assuming you can find a DP dongle). Have you been able to find where to buy DP dongles that support 3 monitors? If you can find that, then you just need to find a card with at least 2 DP ports, and crossfireX shouldn't be required either.

I don't think CrossFireX is needed for the OP's usage. Just 6 independent displays using two graphics cards.

The Radeon HD 6870 Eyefinity 6 Edition would have been the simplest single card solution.
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March 15, 2012 9:22:56 PM

Ah, I hope for confirmation that this will work. I've seen suggestions on this type of setup before, but I have never seen confirmation that it works. It would be great to see that it does.

It still requires the 3 monitor DP dongle. Could you post a link if you can find one? That's also something I can't find.
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March 15, 2012 10:09:48 PM

bystander said:
I wonder if this, along with any other card would get the job done: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That along with another card should work.

One of the newegg users said they use two of them with a trading setup of 8 widescreen monitors.

Another user uses it in a tri-monitor trading setup.

Another user is using that card with four monitors attached to it along with a Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 5450 card with two monitors attached to it.

CrossFireX isn't even used or needed.
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March 15, 2012 10:17:58 PM

ko888 said:
That along with another card should work.

One of the newegg users said they use two of them with a trading setup of 8 widescreen monitors.

Another user uses it in a tri-monitor trading setup.

Another user is using that card with four monitors attached to it along with a Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 5450 card with two monitors attached to it.

CrossFireX isn't even used or needed.


Ah, good call. I didn't read the reviews on it.
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March 15, 2012 10:40:52 PM

Might be a little late to the party but I would go with a motherboard with 3 PCI-e slots. Then you could use 3 really low end video cards. Mutli monitor support does not need sli or crossfire. You could even mix and match video card brands.

Each card would run 2 screens. The power draw would be very low, and the price would be low., but most improtantly you wont have any issues with the computer being sluggish due to not having enough gpu power to run 1920x1080 x 6.

Something like this for 100 and then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

go with 3 of these for 120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3 monitors are hdmi and 3 are dvi or dvi to hdmi adapters.





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March 15, 2012 11:35:43 PM

Most Likely The Problem With Your Current Machine is The Amount Of RAM You Run, Lack Of RAM Can Bog Even The Fastest Machines, And Even Slower Machines Feel A LOT Faster With LOTS Of RAM. A Friend Of Mine Has An Old 1.2GHz AMD Thunderbird Pushing 3GB Its Damn A Damn Sight Quicker Than Any Other Simular Generation Machine With The Usual 256MB Of The Time, LOL Case In Point. Runs Windows7 Very Well Considering Its Age With Its Lowly GeforceFX5200 :lol: 
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March 18, 2012 8:32:24 PM

I've come to a decision. I will go with 2 6450's and 4 VE248H's. I've chosen a different motherboard with 3 PCI slots, so I can add a third card and 2 more VE248H's in the future. I appreciate all of the help!
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March 18, 2012 8:35:44 PM

technicaltrader said:
I've come to a decision. I will go with 2 6450's and 4 VE248H's. I've chosen a different motherboard with 3 PCI slots, so I can add a third card and 2 more VE248H's in the future. I appreciate all of the help!

Hopefully that's a typo and it's 3 PCIe x16 slots and not 3 PCI slots.
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March 18, 2012 8:36:17 PM

Please let us know if this works. I have not seen success of anyone trying to use an extended desktop beyond 2 monitors. That is not to say it won't work, but I'd love to know if it does for the future.

Alternatively, this will allow up to 5 monitors in eyefinity: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is in stock. Read what is says about the FLEX cards:
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SAPPHIRE HD 6870 FleX can support three DVI monitors in Eyefinity mode and deliver a true SLS (Single Large Surface) work area without the need for costly active adapters. With the SAPPHIRE FleX solution, the first two monitors are connected to the DVI outputs, as usual. A third DVI monitor can be connected to the HDMI output with the passive cable adapter supplied. Thus three DVI monitors can be used in Eyefinity mode without any additional investment, and the HD 6870 FleX can support up to 5 displays maximum with dual DisplayPort.
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March 18, 2012 10:31:05 PM

What about using some USB>DVI adapters?.....I have 4 monitors on my work PC, 2 from GPU and 2 on USB>VGA adapters....
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March 18, 2012 10:46:21 PM

NZSol said:
What about using some USB>DVI adapters?.....I have 4 monitors on my work PC, 2 from GPU and 2 on USB>VGA adapters....

Got a link of what is needed to make it work or is it built into Win 7?
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March 26, 2012 1:55:18 AM

Sorry I haven't updated yet, its been hectic. I ordered (2) 6450 cards and the other parts for my pc build. I couldn't get started on assembly until Wednesday when the case came in. I ordered next day shipping but Newegg fumbled the order. I assembled everything and installed both 6450 cards. I went to AMD's website to download the drivers >Catalyst Drivers and Software >Automatically detect and Install >Download Now. This downloaded AMD Vision Engine Control Center which has AMD Eyefinity Multi Display. The 6450's came with a HDMI to DVI adapters which I am using. I got my hands on a couple more monitors for a test and the system will run 6 monitors on 2 cards in Eyefinity mode flawlessly. I could not be more pleased with the functionality of this setup.
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March 26, 2012 2:06:57 AM

Did you not enable crossfireX? I assume that it isn't enabled for this to work, but would like to know how you went about setting it up.
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March 26, 2012 8:34:05 PM

I did not enable crossfire. Checking the AMD Vision Engine Control Center the system is defaulted at "Disable AMD Crossfire X".
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March 27, 2012 2:49:56 AM

Cool. I was not aware that Eyefinity could work across multiple cards that were not in CrossfireX, but it is great information to know. Thanks for letting us know how it worked.
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