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May 18, 2012 6:51:15 AM

I received a HD 5970 for my birthday and decided to get rid of my old prebuilt PC and build a new one. I tried to save some money. Also, could I just reuse the old HDD from my previous computer, and its Windows 7 Upgrade, on my new PC? The Windows 7 version isn't OEM. Anyways, here's the components:


SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151244


COOLER MASTER Elite 311 RC-311B-BWN1 Blue Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119246


Western Digital RE4 WD5003ABYX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136697


ASRock 880GM-LE FX AM3+ AMD 880G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157292


ENERMAX NAXN 82+ ENM750AWT 750W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817194086


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231311


AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986

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May 18, 2012 6:52:45 AM

What GPU are you getting? If you're only getting a single card, 550W is enough power.
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May 18, 2012 7:00:41 AM

For $30 more, you can get a Radeon 7870, which is a much better GPU.
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May 18, 2012 7:13:04 AM

azeem40 said:
For $30 more, you can get a Radeon 7870, which is a much better GPU.


I might just do that. The reviews on this particular 5970 have me worried. It's not a problem, though, I got it for free. This might sound dumb, and I'm sorry if it is, but could I reuse my old HDD and put it into my new build? I believe I'd have to buy a new copy of Windows 7, though.
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May 18, 2012 7:15:02 AM

azeem40 said:
For $30 more, you can get a Radeon 7870, which is a much better GPU.


Much better? It has double to the per gpu chip memory but I don't think you can say its much better. the 7870 is about 30% better than a 5870 if its ram isn't overloaded. Since the 5970 is practically two 5870 its is easily able to outperform a 7870 if your careful not to overload its ram with wasteful settings like 16x antistrophic filtering
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May 18, 2012 7:16:27 AM

It seems I was mistaken. It is only better for SCII and Skyrim.
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May 18, 2012 7:21:35 AM

azeem40 said:
It seems I was mistaken. It is only better for SCII and Skyrim.


This is because crossfire is more cpu demanding than a single gpu. In cpu bound games you can simply create a catalyst profile to turn off crossfire.
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May 18, 2012 7:27:56 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I would go with this motherboard. It can power cpu's better since its build quality is better. This would allow you to overclock better but I still wouldn't go over 1.45 volts on the cpu even if you have a side panel fan blowing air to the motherboard.
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May 18, 2012 7:34:35 AM

You probably will be able to reuse all your old components. Windows 7 can be installed multiple times so you won't have to spend money on another os. What is your old case model and what type of connection does your hard drive and dvd drive use? Alternatively if your could give me your old motherboard model I can find out if the new motherboard can fit the old case.
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May 18, 2012 7:37:41 AM

If the case is ATX, any ATX or mATX mobo will fit it.
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May 18, 2012 7:45:00 AM

Phyrexiancure said:
You probably will be able to reuse all your old components. Windows 7 can be installed multiple times so you won't have to spend money on another os. What is your old case model and what type of connection does your hard drive and dvd drive use? Alternatively if your could give me your old motherboard model I can find out if the new motherboard can fit the old case.


This is the old PC (2008), a FX6800-01e: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/gateway-fx6800-01e/450.... The PSU failed and it took the motherboard, CPU, and video card with it. It took a lot of troubleshooting, and hair-pulling, to figure out. If I remember correctly, the motherboard model is a TBGM01. The HDD and DVD drive use SATA connections.
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May 18, 2012 8:32:43 AM

Will the CPU bottleneck my video card?
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May 18, 2012 6:30:24 PM

azeem40 said:
If the case is ATX, any ATX or mATX mobo will fit it.


Its a micro atx case so any micro atx and itx part will fit it which will allow you to reuse it. If your Drives are not dead you'll be able to reuse them also. Though you'll have to trouble shoot when installing the motherboard button power/reset connection. If you could find your old motherboard manual that shows the different connections arrangement for it you could rearrange them for the new motherboard. Or you could just randomly rearrange the connections till it powers.
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May 18, 2012 8:26:40 PM

KingRakanishu said:
Will the CPU bottleneck my video card?


The HD 5970 is the limit for the Phenom II x4 before the cpu becomes the bottleneck. It is only outlier cases like starcraft II that the cpu would be the bottleneck. I would still overclock your cpu especially since Black Edition processors are so easy to tweak. What your want to overclock is the cpu core and the cpu-nb, skip the hyper transport link. I would get your cpu core to atleast 3.8 ghz and the cpu-nb to atleast 2.6 ghz. For cpu voltage I wouldn't go above 1.45, cpu-nb voltage shouldn't be above 1.4v. You could go higher with voltage but your case doesn't have a side fan and its a micro atx motherboards which aren't the best overclockers. You'll also need an aftermarket cooler if you don't already have one, I'd suggest this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also when I to measure voltage use the cpuz hardware reading software, the bios voltages can often be inaccurate.
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May 19, 2012 2:30:59 AM

Phyrexiancure said:
The HD 5970 is the limit for the Phenom II x4 before the cpu becomes the bottleneck. It is only outlier cases like starcraft II that the cpu would be the bottleneck. I would still overclock your cpu especially since Black Edition processors are so easy to tweak. What your want to overclock is the cpu core and the cpu-nb, skip the hyper transport link. I would get your cpu core to atleast 3.8 ghz and the cpu-nb to atleast 2.6 ghz. For cpu voltage I wouldn't go above 1.45, cpu-nb voltage shouldn't be above 1.4v. You could go higher with voltage but your case doesn't have a side fan and its a micro atx motherboards which aren't the best overclockers. You'll also need an aftermarket cooler if you don't already have one, I'd suggest this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also when I to measure voltage use the cpuz hardware reading software, the bios voltages can often be inaccurate.



Thanks for the help, mate. Cooling is always one of my concerns, so I'll have to look around for a case, unless you have any suggestions. Would it be better to get an ATX board?
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May 19, 2012 4:35:04 AM

Best answer selected by KingRakanishu.
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May 19, 2012 6:04:05 PM

KingRakanishu said:
Thanks for the help, mate. Cooling is always one of my concerns, so I'll have to look around for a case, unless you have any suggestions. Would it be better to get an ATX board?


If your going to buy a case that fits ATX you should definitively take advantage of it though they cost a bit more. Do you want a motherboard board that supports separate GPU's? They start at about $120. Though in order to not slow down the dual set up you'd have to upgrade the currently unreleased 2nd Gen FX 8 core processors down the road. Single GPU ATX boards start around $80 for decent quality. Even though this is an open box item its only $90 and two separate gpu's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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