GTx 580 or 7950?

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If you want to get something now, then I say go with a good deal on the GTX 580. They are priced right now that nVidia hacked the price to make room for Kepler cards. Of course, with 28nm production being stopped and their reported poor yields who knows when you'll be able to get your hands on those so I don't see a point in waiting for them :p
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Just to let you know, I got a i 7 950 so buying a Kepler is kinda pointless without PCIe 3.0 because I wont be getting full performance... BTW the price for a kepler or a GTx 670 is way higher than 580 for probably same performance...
 
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We can't draw conclusions about the price or the performance of Kepler yet, unless you have some data I don't know about (show me!). I think it's probably worth waiting for Kepler and the 7800s. The 7870 should be similar to the 580 and cheaper, I think (source: Tom's paper-launch 7800 review).
 
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7x8 TIMES? Thats not accurate...

All I know is.. this...

With anything under 32 inches 7970 does 90ish FPS in BF3 with everything maxxed, and its very energy effiecient, so I'm happy...
 
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GeForce-GTX680-gpu,15012.html
This is the chart you are referring to and it is greatly misleading. First of all the lowest it goes is 0.8 with the 7970 being at 1 for every single test. The highest the graph goes is 1.5 so the largest difference on BF3 4x AA is about a 55% increase not even close to 7-8 times better (7-8 times more power hungry I would believe though). This is also released by Nvidia themselves bringing bias into question. Lastly this is for their top model which should retail for about the same as the 7970 if not higher ($100+difference).

So yes, do wait to see how the Kelper does vs the 7xxx series but I don't believe they will be much of an improvement. As usual the AMD performs better in some games and the Nvidia in others just depending on which brand the game was optimized for.

If you want best bang for the buck the 580 is a steal for $370 and I would jump on that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600094002%20600085533&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20580%20%28Fermi%29
 
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We say wait because those prices should only drop with the new line and that it is set to release the top (single GPU) card on the 23rd of this month (not sure which others are set to release then too if any) and the 78xx series is coming out on the 19th.
 
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I think the HD7970 still falls (just barely) within the bandwidth provided by PCIe x16 v2 so PCIe v3 isn't needed.

You should definitely wait for Kepler and simply buy the card that gets the best performance for your money.

Just look at the benchmarks and ignore other peoples comments!!

I have an HD5870 which is great but I still want to upgrade. I'm probably getting a GTX670 or GTX680 but again, I'm waiting for the benchmarks.

NVidia vs AMD (or GTX6xx vs HD7xxx):
Not everyone cares but NVidia has a few advantages such as CUDA, PhysX and POSSBILY better performance (it's performance per dollar that counts).

The current card to beat IMO:
Sapphire Tech HD7950 OC (has awesome cooling solution and dual BIOS).
 
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I agree the gtx 580 will be the best bang for the buck.Keplar will use the this is new technology so we will rip you off attitude when it will probably barley perform better then a gtx 580
 
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Do you have AA turned on? Are CCC settings at default?

The current card to beat IMO:
Sapphire Tech HD7950 OC (has awesome cooling solution and dual BIOS).
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All HD 7900s have a dual BIOS, and my reference Sapphire is running max CCC overclock at 65C full load which is VERY cool. Dual fan cooling is more of a gimick than anything.
 
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i am not ready to agree(unless i see a video)that 680 is 7-8x better than 7950.if it is s then i am sure it is at least a $2k card.
 
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7-8x better then 7950 ...lol TROLLOLOL

2.0 vs 3.0 pci = very marginal increases..will not be noticable until games get more demanding. Test's have shown this already. Do not worry if your 2.0 or 3.0, it'll still be a huge increase in gpu power for you.
 
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guzuta

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No idea who is right, but those Tom's numbers are very, very different than Anandtech's:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/amd-radeon-hd-7870-ghz-edition-radeon-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/11

The resolutions are a little different, so can't do a direct comparison, but at 1900x1200, Anand has a 7870 not even matching a GTX 570 let alone a 580.
 
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i said approx not exactly $300.5~10% better is not worth extra $50+.it's newer tech and better IMO.


Certainly it's not gonna "crush" the 580.
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the crushing here does refers only to the extra fps!heat,overclocking potential,power consumption also play a major role in crushing!
 
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who is trolling man?we are discussing.

There's a very big difference between $300 and $350 for the purposes of comparing these cards. Approximately $300 does not include the $350 range, unless you think 85 approximately equals 100.
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cards aren't out so it's pointless to argue on price points.i got no problem with gtx 580 cuz i own one-
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/252/mygpuz.png/

You also can't ignore that the majority of benchmarks show the 7870 to be slower than the 580, with now several benchmarks where it is slower then the 570.

The price difference between the two cards is about 5%, yet the 580 outperforms the 7870 by more than that (8%). Therefore, the 580 is a better card for price/performance. In fact, the only metric that the 7870 is going to be noticeably better in is performance/watt. Both cards overclock well.
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i already said that only extra fps do not justify the whole value.7xxx cards are newer tech.lets say 5970 still holds well against gtx 580 but still we prefer newer tech that is 580.same rule applies here.7870 and 580 perform head to head but i am sure 7870 will have more votes cause it's a newer tech.
 
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GTX580 for $370 is one hell of a deal I want to get 2 but don't really need it since I run 2x6970 in CF...but Dammm temptation is so strong freaking ridiculous... but I have to wait for Kepler I know it will cause AMD to lower prices...just wait wait and wait...:(
 
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If you want to get something now, then I say go with a good deal on the GTX 580. They are priced right now that nVidia hacked the price to make room for Kepler cards. Of course, with 28nm production being stopped and their reported poor yields who knows when you'll be able to get your hands on those so I don't see a point in waiting for them :p
 
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