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March 16, 2012 11:02:34 PM

I currently have: CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra 2062 Desktop PC Phenom II X4 965(3.4GHz) 4GB DDR3 1TB HDD Capacity AMD Radeon HD 6870 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

Except I have 12GB of memory rather than 4.

With the current card I haven't had major problems when playing games at high quality settings. I've been able to play Crysis and Metro2033 (except a little lag on ultra) little to no problems.

The problem is that I want to be able to stream games without having lag in-game. Ex: Recently I'd like to stream League of Legends but can't due to the lag in-game.

So can anyone recommend a card that would allow me to do that? I'm currently using XSplit as a broadcaster.

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a c 1401 U Graphics card
March 16, 2012 11:13:27 PM

HD7970!
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March 16, 2012 11:21:54 PM

rolli59 said:
HD7970!


Is that it? Only a $500 card that recently came out can do what I ask?
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 16, 2012 11:38:00 PM

slap on a second 6870 would be your cheapest option (for around $150). it should work out unless you absolutely HAVE TO play all your games on ultra settings while streaming them.

but seeing as you're streaming, make sure that the lag isn't due to an insufficient internet connection etc.

edit/additional info.
I used to own a pair of 6870s in CF, and I've never had any issues playing any games I want at any setting (but I also had comcast xfinity internet with a i5 2500k cpu). I sold my 6870s to a friend and upgraded to the 7970 recommended above, and while there's huge improvements on all benchmarks, there's no major difference in gameplay except with the super demanding new games such as bf3, and that's really only if you want lots of AA
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March 16, 2012 11:44:47 PM

zentaki said:
Is that it? Only a $500 card that recently came out can do what I ask?


vmem said:
slap on a second 6870 would be your cheapest option (for around $150). it should work out unless you absolutely HAVE TO play all your games on ultra settings while streaming them.

but seeing as you're streaming, make sure that the lag isn't due to an insufficient internet connection etc.

edit/additional info.
I used to own a pair of 6870s in CF, and I've never had any issues playing any games I want at any setting (but I also had comcast xfinity internet with a i5 2500k cpu). I sold my 6870s to a friend and upgraded to the 7970 recommended above, and while there's huge improvements on all benchmarks, there's no major difference in gameplay except with the super demanding new games such as bf3, and that's really only if you want lots of AA


According to XSplit bandwidth testing and various speed sources, my internet is more than enough. When you had the 6870s did you ever stream with them?

I'm not really interested with games such as bf3. Currently I'd most likely just stream League of Legends, Diablo III, Tera, Ghost Recon Online, etc. Not all that high end. I'd just like to make sure that the second 6870 would take care of that.
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 2:42:06 AM

Hi again, sorry for the late reply

anyway, unfortunately, I didn't stream with my 6870s. but I would be very very surprised if a pair of 6870s wouldn't solve your problem (unless it's not gpu related). here is the CF review of the 6870 when they first came out
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6870-rade...

if you want a refrence, this can be SOMEWHAT of a refrence to the bottom most chart on the 6870 CF review since it's done at a lower resolution (1080p instead of 1600p) but with 4xAA rather than no AA.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/05-Al...

all in all, I'd say a pair of 6870s should reach around 6970 performance, maybe even 7950 performance on some games (especially directx 11 games)
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on a separate note, your current system will bottleneck something like a 7970, so definitely don't fork out the cash for that card. to be honest, it is my opinion that if a 6870 can't fix it, you'll need either a new high end gaming machine all together, or better internet (please feel free to correct me if I"m wrong guys!)
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March 17, 2012 2:52:21 AM

vmem said:
Hi again, sorry for the late reply

anyway, unfortunately, I didn't stream with my 6870s. but I would be very very surprised if a pair of 6870s wouldn't solve your problem (unless it's not gpu related). here is the CF review of the 6870 when they first came out
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6870-rade...

if you want a refrence, this can be SOMEWHAT of a refrence to the bottom most chart on the 6870 CF review since it's done at a lower resolution (1080p instead of 1600p) but with 4xAA rather than no AA.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/05-Al...

all in all, I'd say a pair of 6870s should reach around 6970 performance, maybe even 7950 performance on some games (especially directx 11 games)


I was considering on getting it however upon looking in my case I see that:
1. There is a black and yellow wire blocking the second slot that a card would go in, this wire goes all the way to the right
2. I don't have 2 other black and yellow cords to connect to the other card
My current card will be in the blue slot, the black slot is the problem.

Here's a video showing it:
http://youtu.be/bdbOTrALuNA

I don't really know a whole lot about these parts so what should I do?


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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 3:01:38 AM

that wire's most likely your 12v CPU power, it's plugged into a socket on the upper right corner of your motherboard right?

it also looks like it's tied down with a white strip tie? if so, using your own judgement, you can either nudge it a bit further to the left to expose your other PCI slots and put in your second 6870 very much the same way your first one fit in there. otherwise, you can carefully cut the strip ties (don't accidentally damage your motherboard!), unplug it, put in your graphics cards, and then plug it back in and tie it back down in the best arrangement that you can. if you choose to unplug it, make sure it's long enough to be plugged back in after you put in your graphics cards!

aside from that, look and make sure your power supply has two more spare 6pin lines (the same that's plugged into your current 6870)

update:
sorry, just realized you said you didn't have more 6pin cords from your power supply. there are adapters you can get for that, but first, can you tell me your power supply's wattage? it should say so on a sticker or something on your power supply
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March 17, 2012 3:06:49 AM

vmem said:
that wire's most likely your 12v CPU power, it's plugged into a socket on the upper right corner of your motherboard right?

it also looks like it's tied down with a white strip tie? if so, using your own judgement, you can either nudge it a bit further to the left to expose your other PCI slots and put in your second 6870 very much the same way your first one fit in there. otherwise, you can carefully cut the strip ties (don't accidentally damage your motherboard!), unplug it, put in your graphics cards, and then plug it back in and tie it back down in the best arrangement that you can. if you choose to unplug it, make sure it's long enough to be plugged back in after you put in your graphics cards!

aside from that, look and make sure your power supply has two more spare 6pin lines (the same that's plugged into your current 6870)


I don't believe there are any other 6pin ones besides the big white cords. I'm not sure why there would be another slot with no extra lines. Does this mean I need a new power source?

The wattage should be 700
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 3:14:58 AM

700w should be just enough for two 6870s. as for adaptors, you want two of something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

make sure you connect them to lines that are not powering anything serious (a fan or something should be ok). and make sure you connect each adapter to a separate line from your power supply

now I'm not exactly an expert on this type of thing (i've always bought my own power supplies so I rarely get adapters). so to all the nice folks reading this, please double check my info and help this OP! he should be close to gaming and streaming in no time
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did some more looking, get this adaptor instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
someone in the review specifically added a 6870 with it :) 
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March 17, 2012 3:17:33 AM

vmem said:
700w should be just enough for two 6870s. as for adaptors, you want two of something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

make sure you connect them to lines that are not powering anything serious (a fan or something should be ok). and make sure you connect each adapter to a separate line from your power supply

now I'm not exactly an expert on this type of thing (i've always bought my own power supplies so I rarely get adapters). so to all the nice folks reading this, please double check my info and help this OP! he should be close to gaming and streaming in no time


So I would connect those to the white cords in my video (0:28)?
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 3:21:03 AM

zentaki said:
So I would connect those to the white cords in my video (0:28)?


most likely... I honestly can't see it that clearly in your video. but yes, the plugs are typically white, and to be honest, it'll only fit on the correct cord unless you hammer it in or something. the plug on your white cords should be flat with 4 holes lined up horizontally
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 3:28:51 AM

zentaki said:
Alright, one more question:
Will this one be alright:
PowerColor ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card AX6850 1 GBD5-DH


that's a 6850. you said you have a 6870? this is the 6870 by the same brand if you like their designs
http://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-DisplayPort-PCI-Expres...

personally, I'd get this one
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-MINIDP-Video-HD687AZHF...
or this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005C8RTTU/ref=pd_lpo_...
depending on your prefrence
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a c 91 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 3:40:41 AM

easy mistake, shopping searches turn up weird results sometimes. glad I caught it before you bought it lol. anyway, it was my pleasure, and good luck with upgrading!
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March 17, 2012 3:42:15 AM

Best answer selected by Zentaki.
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