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Gtx 560ti or Gtx 560ti 448 core price dilemma!

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March 17, 2012 3:36:18 AM

So I'm scouring the market for a new video card and there are a lot of sales going on at this moment, probably due to the release of the new radeon cards and the imminent release of the kepler gpu cards from nVidia.
My question is, how much of a price gap should there be, at most, between the regular ti vs the 448 core to justify the purchase of the more powerful card?
a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:02:57 AM

448 core is the best "Bang for buck, closest to 580 without paying for 580" as your gonna get
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a c 253 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:05:22 AM

With the 448 core card you are getting almost the performance of a GTX 570 for the price closer to a 560Ti. So instead of a large price gap you now have a small one that is even smaller if there is a rebate or sale. So any sale or rebate at this point makes it worth it.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:06:34 AM

IMHO the 448 is not worth it, at least if you consider going with sli later on.
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March 17, 2012 4:08:43 AM

the 448 will only be available for a "short" period of time. Like amuffin said, if you have an inkling of adding a second for sli, go with the 560 ti so you can be sure you can get your hands on one in the future.
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March 17, 2012 4:11:15 AM

Radeon 7850 is better than 448 enough said @ $250 LOl
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March 17, 2012 4:17:17 AM

The 560ti 448 is almost exactly in the middle of the 560ti and 570 in terms of performance, so that's where it should be in terms of price as well. Currently with the crazy deals on the 570, you'd be better off going for a full up 570 for $10-20 more, or getting the 560ti for $50-60 less.

Get the $570 for $250:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the 560ti for $200:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(there are a few cheaper models - even one for $165 - but they don't have the best reveiws; could be a great deal or a trap)

Avoid the 560ti 448 right now, unless it drops to under $230.

Just my thoughts anyways.
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March 17, 2012 4:35:23 AM

BigMack70 said:
The 560ti 448 is almost exactly in the middle of the 560ti and 570 in terms of performance, so that's where it should be in terms of price as well. Currently with the crazy deals on the 570, you'd be better off going for a full up 570 for $10-20 more, or getting the 560ti for $50-60 less.

Get the $570 for $250:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the 560ti for $200:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(there are a few cheaper models - even one for $165 - but they don't have the best reveiws; could be a great deal or a trap)

Avoid the 560ti 448 right now, unless it drops to under $230.

Just my thoughts anyways.

Um Galaxy I not so sure about that brand thats most likely why they have it on a steep discount LOL.
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March 17, 2012 4:42:45 AM

^ Yeah but the card has decent reviews and has manufacturer responses which is always a good sign. Galaxy is fairly well known - it's not like these "Sparkle" or ECS branded cards that have started showing up. There's an EVGA for $20 more anyways if you want to be safe, though the 570 isn't as good a deal at the $270 price point.
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March 17, 2012 4:45:55 AM

BigMack70 said:
^ Yeah but the card has decent reviews and has manufacturer responses which is always a good sign. Galaxy is fairly well known - it's not like these "Sparkle" or ECS branded cards that have started showing up. There's an EVGA for $20 more anyways if you want to be safe, though the 570 isn't as good a deal at the $270 price point.

GTX 570 had it's run and it was solid but I am going to have to say the 7850 is worth $250 for GTX 570 class performance @ half the power draw and 28nm process for mad OCing it's just to much to pass off IMO. Plus 1GHZ OC on the core is Winning
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:48:42 AM

Rockdpm said:
448 core is the best "Bang for buck,


yeah!

Quote:
closest to 580 without paying for 580" as your gonna get


no!closest to 580-5970,480,570,6970.but with a good overclock(it's a good overclocker)it can touch stock 580 scores.
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 5:04:00 AM

I would really reccomend a 7850 , mostly because the way this cards perform with DX 11 is absolutely awesome. And face it, most games from here on in will be DX 11. Now if it's a DX 10 or 9 game, then yeah, it only slightly or identical to a 560ti.
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March 17, 2012 5:14:20 AM

ismaeljrp said:
I would really reccomend a 7850 , mostly because the way this cards perform with DX 11 is absolutely awesome. And face it, most games from here on in will be DX 11. Now if it's a DX 10 or 9 game, then yeah, it only slightly or identical to a 560ti.

and a 1GHZ OCed 7870 matched the performance of it's bigger brother the 7870 which we all know matched the performance of a GTX 580 so ... IMO it's the same as yours 7850 FTW
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 6:48:48 AM

The cards haven't even come out yet.
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March 17, 2012 1:40:03 PM

Gman450 said:
The faster card is obviously the -448.
GTX 560Ti -448.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 560Ti -384
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The price difference between the two is about $50.

Review on a -448.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...


So if it were you which card would you get? I'm canadian and right now I can get the 448 for that price ($285, after taxes and rebates). However at the same time the normal gtx560ti is only $220 so I'm having a hard time choosing which one is the better bang for my buck :( 
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March 17, 2012 1:57:19 PM

nubsauce101 said:
So if it were you which card would you get? I'm canadian and right now I can get the 448 for that price ($285, after taxes and rebates). However at the same time the normal gtx560ti is only $220 so I'm having a hard time choosing which one is the better bang for my buck :( 


What is the price on a 570 for you? The 560ti 448 is almost exactly in the middle of the two performance wise. So, the 448 is a good deal if it is at the halfway mark or less price-wise between the two cards.

So, let's say for the sake of example that the 560ti costs $200 and 570 $300. In that case, anything at $250 or less for the 560ti 448 is a good deal and you should buy that. Above $250, it is not a good deal and you should either get the 560ti or the 570.

Make sense?
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March 17, 2012 2:04:50 PM

BigMack70 said:
What is the price on a 570 for you? The 560ti 448 is almost exactly in the middle of the two performance wise. So, the 448 is a good deal if it is at the halfway mark or less price-wise between the two cards.

So, let's say for the sake of example that the 560ti costs $200 and 570 $300. In that case, anything at $250 or less for the 560ti 448 is a good deal and you should buy that. Above $250, it is not a good deal and you should either get the 560ti or the 570.

Make sense?


Ahhh I see. There's a galaxy gtx 570 that's the same price as the 448 core, but it's galaxy :na: 
But I'll what you said in mind cause those are some pretty solid guidelines, thanks!
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March 17, 2012 4:16:32 PM

amuffin said:
The cards haven't even come out yet.

Nice try but they have already been tested and reviewed you guys act like they are going to change or something in days time LOL
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March 17, 2012 4:17:41 PM

nubsauce101 said:
So if it were you which card would you get? I'm canadian and right now I can get the 448 for that price ($285, after taxes and rebates). However at the same time the normal gtx560ti is only $220 so I'm having a hard time choosing which one is the better bang for my buck :( 

7850 is a more powerful option for $250 and it beast out the 448
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a c 253 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:33:02 PM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$309.99 and a $10 rebate

This card from Evga comes with a lifetime limited warranty which you can't find from any other card maker and in my opinion is woth a lot. To be able at any time that something goes wrong with the card to be able to RMA it and not have any hassels is woth it. I have done RMA's with Evga several years after purchase and had the card replaced no problem. Evga also has the step up program where for up to 90 days after purchase if you want to step up to a better model you can just by paying the difference. With the new release of Kepler just a few days away you can certianly take advantage of that a couple of months down the road. So while thier cards are just a little more expensive you do get some benefits from them.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 4:52:30 PM

I like the Hawk 560ti's :) 
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March 17, 2012 6:51:23 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys. I went ahead and purchased the Galaxy GTX 570 because it was the same price as a Zotac or EVGA ti 448 and also because I have limited space in my case and this is one of the few 570s that will fit :na: 
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March 17, 2012 6:53:21 PM

nubsauce101 said:
Thanks for all the advice guys. I went ahead and purchased the Galaxy GTX 570 because it was the same price as a Zotac or EVGA ti 448 and also because I have limited space in my case and this is one of the few 570s that will fit :na: 

Well sorry for your luck on you purchase of the 570 LOL but have fun ;-)
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 6:54:15 PM

^well done 570 is one hell of a good gpu!
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March 17, 2012 6:56:20 PM

hellfire24 said:
^well done 570 is one hell of a good gpu!

The GTX 570 Was good when there were no better options around but there are better options now.
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:02:45 PM

i am not saying it's best in class but still good enough.
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March 17, 2012 7:03:40 PM

nubsauce101 said:
Thanks for all the advice guys. I went ahead and purchased the Galaxy GTX 570 because it was the same price as a Zotac or EVGA ti 448 and also because I have limited space in my case and this is one of the few 570s that will fit :na: 


Contrary to AMD fanboy Demon Slayer, you made a good choice - best GPU available for $250 performance-wise :) 
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March 17, 2012 7:03:50 PM

hellfire24 said:
i am not saying it's best in class but still good enough.

Just sayin more people would enjoy getting more for there money.
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:06:58 PM

^that's obvious!
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March 17, 2012 7:07:38 PM

BigMack70 said:
Contrary to AMD fanboy Demon Slayer, you made a good choice - best GPU available for $250 performance-wise :) 

Well the only Nvidia I recommend today is the GTX 460 1 GB and I have nvidia in my Box right now so not fanboy just a realist hoping kelper will bring down some decent Price/Performance to market instead of the usual Nvidia formula a bit more Performance for the highest pricing and lowest efficiency.
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a c 225 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:12:44 PM

If bang for the buck is going to be measured by cost per frame .... the clear winners are highlighted in bold

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

Under $200 - 6870 in single card config and GTX 460 in SLI

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 140.00 6850 (371/634) $ 0.38 - $ 0.44
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46

Under $300 - 900 Mhz 560 Ti

$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 210.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.42 - $ 0.49
$ 270.00 560-448 (501/835) $ 0.54 - $ 0.65

Under $400 - Tie between 6970 and 570 (w/ slight edge to 570 iN SLI) However, two 6870's substantially beat both cards for the same $320.

$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 320.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.61 - $ 0.73

Under $400 - 580 at at glance but two 560's However, two 900 Mhz 560's substantially beat both cards in single configuration by 40% and for less money

$ 450.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.73 - $ 0.94
$ 480.00 7950 (603/NG*) $ 0.80 - ERR

Over $500 .... no competition at least for a week but again two 900 Mhz 560's substantially beat this card in single configuration by ..28% for a lot less money

$ 560.00 7970 (675/NG*) $ 0.83 - ERR

* Did not complete number of games in test in CF.

As far as the 570 is concerned make sure it's not a reference design and pick one with 8 phases or more on the VRM.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...
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March 17, 2012 7:18:42 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
If bang for the buck is going to be measured by cost per frame .... the clear winners are highlighted in bold

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

Under $200 - 6870 in single card config and GTX 460 in SLI

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 140.00 6850 (371/634) $ 0.38 - $ 0.44
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46

Under $300 - 900 Mhz 560 Ti

$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 210.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.42 - $ 0.49
$ 270.00 560-448 (501/835) $ 0.54 - $ 0.65

Under $400 - Tie between 6970 and 570 (w/ slight edge to 570 iN SLI) However, two 6870's substantially beat both cards for the same $320.

$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 320.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.61 - $ 0.73

Under $400 - 580 at at glance but two 560's However, two 900 Mhz 560's substantially beat both cards in single configuration by 40% less money

$ 450.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.73 - $ 0.94
$ 480.00 7950 (603/NG*) $ 0.80 - ERR

Over $500 .... no competition at least for a week but again two 900 Mhz 560's substantially beat this card in single configuration by ..28% for a lot less money

$ 560.00 7970 (675/NG*) $ 0.83 - ERR

* Did not complete number of games in test in CF.

As far as the 570 is concerned make sure it's not a reference design and pick one with 8 phases or more on the VRM.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...


your prices on all the 5xx fermi cards are old/too high just fyi
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March 17, 2012 7:21:59 PM

Funny how you guys never mention the games performance you just mention cost per frame so in that I suppose even and laptop could be considered a better value when playing mine Craft get some real benchmarks man in other words.
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a b U Graphics card
March 18, 2012 4:11:02 AM

^so do you take a look at minecraft benchmarks before purchasing?LOL
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March 19, 2012 2:25:59 AM

JackNaylorPE said:


As far as the 570 is concerned make sure it's not a reference design and pick one with 8 phases or more on the VRM.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...


The Galaxy GTX 570 has a 9 inch PCB with the connectors facing forwards rather than at 90 degrees to the PCB. So in theory I should have no problems :D 
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