Pro's - I want your Advice

[mohsin3dlover]

hi my name is mohsin
i am from pakistan.i need help from you guys.
it is toooo HOT in pakistan.the abmit temprature is exeding to 45c.and i have no Air Condetioning
so i am woring about system.it is geting really hot.
my system spec are

intel 630 presscot with 2m L2 & HT (stock HSF)
intel 945gntlrk motherboard
corssiar DDR-2 (512x2) 533Mhz
msi x1600pro (256mb)
WD Hdd 80 gb sata
sony DVD-rom
server case with PSU 400w

my temps are (idle=63c) & (load=75c+)

please help me
some one told me that the peressler runs whay cooler then presscot is it right?
is it ok to upgrade my prosser to pentium D 930 with stock intel cooler with out worring about
temps.
(i do not OC my pc.because i cant)



i use my pc for 3dsmax & maya rendering besause i am a student i do so much
rendering.
and some gaming too.
Thanks

 

[antichrysler]

You're going to need some A/C before you can upgrade. With the temperatures that you're getting I would not even recommend running your system at those.

 

[Multiplectic]

You can buy a Presler, it would be a little cooler, and faster for your renderings.
If you can, buy a watercooler. Better than aircooling.

 

[mesarectifier]

You know the ambient temperature of the country was only 35 before he bought his Prescott

 

[FITCamaro]

Must be global warming. :roll:

Like another guy said. Water cooling might be the way to go for you. I'd do both the CPU and the GPU.

 

[elpresidente2075]

You may also want to underclock your cpu if you can't get your hands on watercooling.

 

[K8MAN]

hi my name is mohsin
i am from pakistan.i need help from you guys.
it is toooo HOT in pakistan.the abmit temprature is exeding to 45c.and i have no Air Condetioning
so i am woring about system.it is geting really hot.
my system spec are

intel 630 presscot with 2m L2 & HT (stock HSF)
intel 945gntlrk motherboard
corssiar DDR-2 (512x2) 533Mhz
msi x1600pro (256mb)
WD Hdd 80 gb sata
sony DVD-rom
server case with PSU 400w

my temps are (idle=63c) & (load=75c+)

please help me
some one told me that the peressler runs whay cooler then presscot is it right?
is it ok to upgrade my prosser to pentium D 930 with stock intel cooler with out worring about
temps.
(i do not OC my pc.because i cant)



i use my pc for 3dsmax & maya rendering besause i am a student i do so much
rendering.
and some gaming too.
Thanks

I would wait for a conroe if I were you. Your RAM will work fine for it and it will run much cooler than any P4 you'll ever find.

 

[xxenclavexx]

buy AMD or wait for conroe

.....oh yea,by the way, im a "Pro"

 

[Human1]

No matter what CPU you get make sure you don't stay with the stock heatsink! Get a good heatsink for it, or as others have suggested, look into liquid cooling.
P.S. I am not a "pro", but I haven't blown anything up yet. Maybe that's what I'm missing...

 

[Guest]

I doubt Presler's will run on your mobo, check first

I secon water cooling, with a large tank since its warm =)

 

[ltcommander_data]

I think he wants to just upgrade the processor. His 945 motherboard doesn't support Conroe anyways.

My recommendation is to look for a C1 stepping 930D. The C1 stepping has EIST so it'll downclock to 2.4GHz depending on workload. The C1 stepping also uses a more refined 65nm process so it should run cooler and use less power than the older B1 stepping. Both should help with the temperature.

Here's the official Product Change Notification for C1 stepping from Intel:

http://developer.intel.com/design/pcn/Processors/D0106083.pdf

What you are looking for in boxed processors is an S-Spec beginning with SL95, the SL94 was the older B1 stepping.

 

[elpresidente2075]

You're going to need some A/C before you can upgrade. With the temperatures that you're getting I would not even recommend running your system at those.

You may just want to AC your CPU:
http://www.frozencpu.com/cas-193.html?id=i6J8nCQQ

Maybe more than you wanted to spend, but then again, you wouldn't have to worry about overheating. Ever.

 

[K8MAN]

I think he wants to just upgrade the processor. His 945 motherboard doesn't support Conroe anyways.

My recommendation is to look for a C1 stepping 930D. The C1 stepping has EIST so it'll downclock to 2.4GHz depending on workload. The C1 stepping also uses a more refined 65nm process so it should run cooler and use less power than the older B1 stepping. Both should help with the temperature.

Here's the official Product Change Notification for C1 stepping from Intel:

http://developer.intel.com/design/pcn/Processors/D0106083.pdf

What you are looking for in boxed processors is an S-Spec beginning with SL95, the SL94 was the older B1 stepping.

I dont think it'll help him much going from 90nm to 65nm unless he gets a single core chip. He could look for a 631 which is exactly what he's got but 65nm right?

 

[MU_Engineer]

The Pentium Ds only require a 945 chipset, and he has one. It should run with the appropriate BIOS update.

 

[angry_ducky]

I doubt Presler's will run on your mobo, check first

He has the 945 chipset; it should work. I'll second the recommendation to get watercooling.

 

[Guest]

Well I know some boards take 8xx and not 9xx, thats why I mentionned it.

I suggest upgrading to a nice Northwood 2.8

 

[angry_ducky]

Well I know some boards take 8xx and not 9xx, thats why I mentionned it.

I suggest upgrading to a nice Northwood 2.8

Northwood is the best P4. Willamette and Prescott suck.

 

[Guest]

Yes but I'm starting too feel the age of mine..
Conroe/K8L/whatver comming up =)

 

[badge]

hi my name is mohsin
i am from pakistan.i need help from you guys.
it is toooo HOT in pakistan.the abmit temprature is exeding to 45c.and i have no Air Condetioning
so i am woring about system.it is geting really hot.
my system spec are

intel 630 presscot with 2m L2 & HT (stock HSF)
intel 945gntlrk motherboard
corssiar DDR-2 (512x2) 533Mhz
msi x1600pro (256mb)
WD Hdd 80 gb sata
sony DVD-rom
server case with PSU 400w

my temps are (idle=63c) & (load=75c+)

please help me
some one told me that the peressler runs whay cooler then presscot is it right?
is it ok to upgrade my prosser to pentium D 930 with stock intel cooler with out worring about
temps.
(i do not OC my pc.because i cant)



i use my pc for 3dsmax & maya rendering besause i am a student i do so much
rendering.
and some gaming too.
Thanks

Get off 'yer arse and go do something about Usama Ben Hidin'. We're damned tired of having our guys chasing that goatmucker throw the pea patches over there. Send out an email or something on that frickin thing.

 

[Dante_Jose_Cuervo]

I'll also second the water-cooling option but like that other guy said, the 631 (cedar mill core) runs very cool and has decent performance. Also, if you haven't looked into it you can try a Vapochill Micro. They're not too expensive and they're pretty good overall for cooling.
http://www.frozencpu.com/scan/se=Modified%20Cases/se=Vapochill/mp=menu_search.html

 

[sailer]

my temps are (idle=63c) & (load=75c+)

Get off 'yer arse and go do something about Usama Ben Hidin'. We're damned tired of having our guys chasing that goatmucker throw the pea patches over there. Send out an email or something on that frickin thing.

Don't know what your problem is, but could you find the rock you came out from under and go back under it? This is a computer forum, not a political one. The guy's asking nicely for help, so try being helpful like the rest of the people here, and keep your politics and dirt shoveling to yourself.

 

[elpresidente2075]

my temps are (idle=63c) & (load=75c+)

Get off 'yer arse and go do something about Usama Ben Hidin'. We're damned tired of having our guys chasing that goatmucker throw the pea patches over there. Send out an email or something on that frickin thing.

Don't know what your problem is, but could you find the rock you came out from under and go back under it? This is a computer forum, not a political one. The guy's asking nicely for help, so try being helpful like the rest of the people here, and keep your politics and dirt shoveling to yourself.

You beat me to it.

 

[badge]

>>Don't know what your problem is<<

I like it when you think you make sense.

>but could you find the rock you came out from under<

Now your not makin' any sense to anyone. Maybe you better leave.

>and go back under it?<

You mouths still movin, but nobody understands you.

>This is a computer forum, not a political one. <

I'm a political man. Maybe I want to talk politics and computers.


>>The guy's asking nicely for help<<

What guy? The guy acting like He's from Pakistan? Your mother raised a fool, but don't get me involved in your family dirt.


>> so try being helpful like the rest of the people here,<<

You should speak politely in front of guests or did your family teach you to be so impolite/ Huh/ What?

>>and keep your politics and dirt shoveling to yourself.<<

Hey, you know what? ef u.

 

[Dade_0182]

dude wtf?!?!?!?! :roll:

 

[mohsin3dlover]

i thank you for all for reppling me.
now here is the ugly part .NO WATER COOLING IS AVAILABLE HERE.only
air cooling from gigabyte.
and offcourse i dont have the budget for conroe