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March 17, 2012 5:12:48 PM

I want a card that can run 30-35 fps on Low on BF3, that's all im asking
My current ATI Radeon 4350 barely does 25 on Low.

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March 17, 2012 5:36:24 PM

What is the price you want to spend, at what resolution, what CPU (processor) do you have and what is your PSU (power supply)?
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March 17, 2012 5:40:06 PM

Anything can really do that. It would help to know your max amount of cash your willing to spend. And the resolution your running at, which your probably not, but I'll say 1080p. Here are my recommendations:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The first card should easily be able to do medium at 1080p. The 6870 should handle high, and the 6850 should hit 50 fps on medium. Here's a Tom's article that should help you decide:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
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March 17, 2012 5:50:36 PM

OP if money is tight for you try and do what you can to scrape together the $140 for a Radeon HD 6850 is it the best bang for the buck card the can play any game on maxed ultra on the market.
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March 17, 2012 5:57:37 PM

Lol no not any game on ultra... troll post.
You have no clue what you are talking about so please just don't post.
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March 17, 2012 6:09:03 PM

andrewcarr said:
Lol no not any game on ultra... troll post.
You have no clue what you are talking about so please just don't post.

Sure it will play any games maxed out why not it's beast. I will reiterate so as to not be biased and as you erroneously claim a troll. OP is you are tight for cash try and scrape together $140 for a GTX 460 1gb or a 6850 they will both play any game on the market and are the best value Price/Performance cards on the market today.
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March 17, 2012 6:14:32 PM

Demon slayer i own hd6850 and i ll agree with andrewcarr.
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March 17, 2012 6:15:51 PM

antonisrsx said:
Demon slayer i own hd6850 and i ll agree with andrewcarr.

So did I and I will agree with me I played all the games maxed out with above 30fps. Anyone whom claims the 6850 cannot max any game out is a troll.
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March 17, 2012 6:18:11 PM

Demon slayer - maybe your time and ours would be better served if you .... go slay demons. Not just this thread but many over the past couple of days have had comments from you that are not informative - just inflammatory. Many people on Tom's are here for the right reasons - what are yours?
-Bruce
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March 17, 2012 6:21:14 PM

andrewcarr said:
Here is the 6850 vs 560Ti. both on High not Ultra.
6850- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
560Ti- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
That's without any AA (which you want) so that further lowers FPS. For ultra you need one of these http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph... or http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...

Why are you comparing a card that was over $100 more than the 6850 for most of it's life the 6850 is comparable to 460 not 560ti LOL
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March 17, 2012 6:22:21 PM

dish_moose said:
Demon slayer - maybe your time and ours would be better served if you .... go slay demons. Not just this thread but many over the past couple of days have had comments from you that are not informative - just inflammatory. Many people on Tom's are here for the right reasons - what are yours?
-Bruce

Why do you flame I sated that GTX 460 and 6850 are the best vaule cards right now for the OP what gives your a troll man.
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March 17, 2012 6:26:04 PM

andrewcarr said:
I am comparing them because the 560Ti is what I recommended and the 6850 is what you recommended. This is what toms has to say about the 6850 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car... and this for the 560Ti http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

OP wants a budget card so he can play BF3 on LOW with around 30fps so obviously a $135 radeon 6850 is a better option go away OP did not ask for you opinion on 560ti.Why are you putting the 6850 and 560ti in the same bracket LOL ?
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March 17, 2012 6:30:24 PM

Instead of insulting, it is better to provide links with proof to your theory:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539

That shows that a HD6850 is capable of playing BF3 at 1920x1200 on Ultra with High FXAA and still gets an average of over 30FPS.

The HD6850 is not a bad card by any means. Not the most powerful but is a nice jump from what the OP has.
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March 17, 2012 6:33:48 PM

jimmysmitty said:
Instead of insulting, it is better to provide links with proof to your theory:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539

That shows that a HD6850 is capable of playing BF3 at 1920x1200 on Ultra with High FXAA and still gets an average of over 30FPS.

The HD6850 is not a bad card by any means. Not the most powerful but is a nice jump from what the OP has.

Thanx for clarifying the situation but all these people just attacked me for all directions just because I innocently recommended OP toward the 6850 WTF this is madness LOL.Then they start to say I am a troll and start comparing the 6850 to the 560ti like they are in the same category and price bracket for OP situation LOL. PS I figure if one is nor out to troll they can go look up the FACTS themselves like you and I have thanx for posting the facts bro.
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March 17, 2012 6:42:55 PM

dish_moose said:
Demon slayer - maybe your time and ours would be better served if you .... go slay demons. Not just this thread but many over the past couple of days have had comments from you that are not informative - just inflammatory. Many people on Tom's are here for the right reasons - what are yours?
-Bruce


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539
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March 17, 2012 6:44:49 PM

andrewcarr said:
Here is the 6850 vs 560Ti. both on High not Ultra.
6850- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
560Ti- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
That's without any AA (which you want) so that further lowers FPS. For ultra you need one of these http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph... or http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:12:13 PM

I never noticed he only wanted to play on low. But regardless he can't play on ultra with a 6850, that was all I was trying to prove. I still think the 560Ti is a good option at its current price and would make the game much better for him. Until the OP decides to post again with his PSU and CPU please don't argue over this, it's pointless. But yes the 6850 is a good option for him too.
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March 17, 2012 7:16:29 PM

andrewcarr said:
I never noticed he only wanted to play on low. But regardless he can't play on ultra with a 6850, that was all I was trying to prove. I still think the 560Ti is a good option at its current price and would make the game much better for him. Until the OP decides to post again with his PSU and CPU please don't argue over this, it's pointless.

The 6850 runs BF3 on ultra man how do you not understand this that 6850 is the best vaule card today - Why do you troll me just cause I stated the truth man every time a can't say boo on TH before someone claims troll. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539
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March 17, 2012 7:26:40 PM

Demon slayer said:
The 6850 runs BF3 on ultra man how do you not understand this that 6850 is the best vaule card today - Why do you troll me just cause I stated the truth man every time a can't say boo on TH before someone claims troll. http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o607/headspin146/Screenshotat2012-03-17134132.png http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/539


Everyone has different opinions on what is playable (60fps vs 30fps) I personally don't like drops below 30 which would happen on ultra with a 6850. However, the 6850 would be more than enough for the OP. Since they are looking at cheap however and for all we know they are running a low end PSU, I'd suggest a 7750 which will be more than enough to manage low settings on BF3 1080p with 30fps minimum. All while running at about ~55w and costing about $110. If the OP needs something below $100 you are left with a 6750 or 6670 which should also manage more than 30fps at low settings.
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March 17, 2012 7:31:12 PM

omega21xx said:
Everyone has different opinions on what is playable (60fps vs 30fps) I personally don't like drops below 30 which would happen on ultra with a 6850. However, the 6850 would be more than enough for the OP. Since they are looking at cheap however and for all we know they are running a low end PSU, I'd suggest a 7750 which will be more than enough to manage low settings on BF3 1080p with 30fps minimum. All while running at about ~55w and costing about $110. If the OP needs something below $100 you are left with a 6750 or 6670 which should also manage more than 30fps at low settings.

Nobody likes 30fps unless they have never played at a full 60fps with a nice fast high Dpi gaming mouse then they will realize how slow and even choppy IMHO around 30fps really is. The 6850 can play BF3 without dropping below 30fps on all ultra fxaa ect but once again like you say most gamers on PC are not cool and comfortable with around 30fps in a competitive shooter game.
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March 17, 2012 7:36:27 PM

Thank's for all the replies, my budget is about $100, so i might go with a 7750, 6750, or a 6670
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a c 381 U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:39:21 PM

andrewcarr said:
The 6870 is better than the 560 for cheaper.


Huh ? The 6870 is a superb card, best ya can get under $200 .... but it's certainly not better than the more expensive 560 TI's. It does have a better bang for the buck tho....as would be expected in a lower price range.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50



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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:39:35 PM

Demon slayer said:
Nobody likes 30fps unless they have never played at a full 60fps with a nice fast high Dpi gaming mouse then they will realize how slow and even choppy IMHO around 30fps really is. The 6850 can play BF3 without dropping below 30fps on all ultra fxaa ect but once again like you say most gamers on PC are not cool and comfortable with around 30fps in a competitive shooter game.


http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/11/10/battlefield...

This link shows ultra crippling the 6850 when everything it turned up. I know that having AA off will let you play without dropping below 30 but still. It's not maxed on a 6850. Even my 6870 OC'd to 1ghz can't play ultra smooth with AA maxed due to running out of Vram.
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March 17, 2012 7:41:54 PM

Demon slayer said:
So did I and I will agree with me I played all the games maxed out with above 30fps. Anyone whom claims the 6850 cannot max any game out is a troll.


Guru3D is a troll

Unless 20 fps is "playing maxed out"

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-revie...


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March 17, 2012 7:43:25 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Huh ? The 6870 is a superb card, best ya can get under $200 .... but it's certainly not better than the more expensive 560 TI's. It does have a better bang for the buck tho....as would be expected in a lower price range.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50


They said 560 (non ti) :)  they did after mentioning the 560 (non ti) that they could go for the 560ti.

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The 6870 is better than the 560 for cheaper. Also consider a 560 Ti which is $165 after rebate, it's a great deal and it's better than every card listed above.
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March 17, 2012 7:50:32 PM

Demon slayer said:
nothing maxes that erroneous game poorly coded and just not very good LOL


He posted this because you stated that 6850 could max any game. That's the only reason.

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Radeon HD 6850 is it the best bang for the buck card the can play any game on maxed ultra on the market.


Technically any card meeting minimum requirements for vram and DX11 ect can max any game. However, that doesn't mean they are playable.
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March 17, 2012 7:52:08 PM

xAceOfSpades said:
Thank's for all the replies, my budget is about $100, so i might go with a 7750, 6750, or a 6670


Sorry that this kind of got out of hand. Glad you found something that could help you however. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 7:58:38 PM

Thank you omega I was talking about the non Ti version, I don't know why people think you have to be talking about the Ti when you purposely don't put it there.

Now regarding the $100 budget.
7750 is the best bet, but a bit over budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The 6670 is good but you want to make sure it is the GDDR5 version not DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You still never mentioned your CPU or PSU, you might be able to get a 6750 or 6770.
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March 17, 2012 7:59:13 PM

Taliseth said:
He posted this because you stated that 6850 could max any game. That's the only reason."

Well it an erroneous claim being that any card or cards cannot get good performance in Metro 2033 so thats not a mar against the 6850 at all.

"Technically any card meeting minimum requirements for vram and DX11 ect can max any game. However, that doesn't mean they are playable.
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6850 will max any game with playable performance @ 1080P and under. Why is it that people are so quick to attack and pick apart and rearrange peoples words ect on TH ?
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March 17, 2012 8:05:37 PM

Demon slayer said:
Taliseth said:
He posted this because you stated that 6850 could max any game. That's the only reason."

Well it an erroneous claim being that any card or cards cannot get good performance in Metro 2033 so thats not a mar against the 6850 at all.

"Technically any card meeting minimum requirements for vram and DX11 ect can max any game. However, that doesn't mean they are playable.
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6850 will max any game with playable performance @ 1080P and under. Why is it that people are so quick to attack and pick apart and rearrange peoples words ect on TH ?


They were taking your responses word for word. If you say it can max any game and be playable, when battlefield 3 and metro 2033 show minimum fps being below 30 from the sources provided, people have a right to correct or at least provide more information regarding what you said as it's not the whole truth.

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Thank you omega I was talking about the non Ti version, I don't know why people think you have to be talking about the Ti when you purposely don't put it there.

Now regarding the $100 budget.
7750 is the best bet, but a bit over budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125417
The 6670 is good but you want to make sure it is the GDDR5 version not DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121442


Happens quite a bit, it's bad naming on Nvidia's part in my opinion. Should just call the 560ti a 565, they'd have to mess with the names of other cards though. It least it's not as bad as the gt/gts/gtx/gs days lol

Agreed. If you can afford the extra $10 then 7750 would be a great option (this would be my choice to be honest). Also like andrewcarr said, make sure to get the GDDR5 of the 6670 if you can't get the 7750.
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March 17, 2012 8:09:54 PM

omega21xx said:
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6850 will max any game with playable performance @ 1080P and under. Why is it that people are so quick to attack and pick apart and rearrange peoples words ect on TH ?


They were taking your responses word for word. If you say it can max any game and be playable, when battlefield 3 and metro 2033 show minimum fps being below 30 from the sources provided, people have a right to correct or at least provide more information regarding what you said as it's not the whole truth.

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Thank you omega I was talking about the non Ti version, I don't know why people think you have to be talking about the Ti when you purposely don't put it there.

Now regarding the $100 budget.
7750 is the best bet, but a bit over budget.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125417
The 6670 is good but you want to make sure it is the GDDR5 version not DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121442


Agreed. If you can afford the extra $10 then 7750 would be a great option (this would be my choice to be honest). Also like andrewcarr said, make sure to get the GDDR5 of the 6670 if you can't get the 7750.[/quotemsg]


Someone already proved my claims correct that 6850 does play BF3 on Ultra playable seems anandtec also claims that the 6850 can max out BF3 with playable fps look at the graphic I posted in an above post I sourced from anandtec LOL
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 8:16:16 PM

You are quite simply wrong stop spewing this blasphemy.
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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 8:16:36 PM

Demon slayer said:
Someone already proved my claims correct that 6850 does play BF3 on Ultra playable seems anandtec also claims that the 6850 can max out BF3 with playable fps look at the graphic I posted in an above post I sourced from anandtec LOL


The source you provided used Average frames per second. Benchmarks will differ per site since there is no benchmark software for BF3. The sources we provide show minimum frame rates unlike the anandtech link. I'm not saying 30 fps is unrealistic on a 6850 (you may even see 50-60 in small indoor scenes), but guarantee it will dip below 30 in actual combat.
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March 17, 2012 8:35:33 PM

omega21xx said:
The source you provided used Average frames per second. Benchmarks will differ per site since there is no benchmark software for BF3. The sources we provide show minimum frame rates unlike the anandtech link. I'm not saying 30 fps is unrealistic on a 6850 (you may even see 50-60 in small indoor scenes), but guarantee it will dip below 30 in actual combat.

maybe turn down a setting god it's a pure mid range card and I stated playable not blazing fast framerates LOL.
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March 17, 2012 8:38:05 PM

andrewcarr said:
You are quite simply wrong stop spewing this blasphemy.

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a b U Graphics card
March 17, 2012 8:42:36 PM

Demon slayer said:
maybe turn down a setting god it's a pure mid range card.


That's more like it, high with some ultra settings. Sorry, it's just your posts were misleading since they only stated "max" which means everything turned up. We were only providing more in depth info to prevent misunderstanding. Personally if I was told by someone "this mid range card can play all games on max!!!!" and went and bought the card assuming it would, when it doesn't, I'd be pretty pissed. Also 30 minimum is by no means blazing fast, it's just getting by barely on the line of playability.
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March 17, 2012 8:45:42 PM

omega21xx said:
That's more like it, high with some ultra settings. Sorry, it's just your posts were misleading since they only stated "max" which means everything turned up. We were only providing more in depth info to prevent misunderstanding. Personally if I was told by someone "this mid range card can play all games on max!!!!" and went and bought the card assuming it would, when it doesn't, I'd be pretty pissed.

One or two games LOL that even a 7970 cannot maintain 60fps on Ultra in BF3 so...... the 6850 will max out any game out today with playable framerates depending on if the game is maxable so in that respect Metro 2033 is out cause it's buggy and nothing gets good performance in it not even SLI 580
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March 17, 2012 8:52:49 PM

Demon slayer said:
One or two games LOL that even a 7970 cannot maintain 60fps on Ultra in BF3 so...... the 6850 will max out any game out today with playable framerates depending on if the game is maxable so in that respect Metro 2033 is out cause it's buggy and nothing gets good performance in it not even SLI 580


You can't compare 60fps to 30fps between 7970 and 6850 respectively. A 7970 is playable on ultra @ 1080p on BF3, crysis, and metro. With the exception of metro, the 7970 will get at least 30 fps minimum, the 6850 however, will not on any of them at ultra.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508?vs=539
on average the 7970 is twice as fast as the 6850. This is all pointless though since you won't stop going on about this.
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March 17, 2012 9:00:38 PM

omega21xx said:
You can't compare 60fps to 30fps between 7970 and 6850 respectively. A 7970 is playable on ultra @ 1080p on BF3, crysis, and metro. With the exception of metro, the 7970 will get at least 30 fps minimum, the 6850 however, will not on any of them at ultra.

So yes then it is agreed the 6850 will max out any game aside form the games that a 7970 will not max out anyways do to to buggy game code or driver issues ect. PS nobody expects blazing maxed out IQ framerates from the little mid range card that could that is the 6850 but it will plug alone quite nicely on any game @ maxed setting and 1080P or under less Metro 2033, Crysis, BF3 the rest are open for maxed out gameplay on the 6850
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March 17, 2012 9:10:44 PM

spentshells said:
I disagree bang for buck it's the 6870 ;) 

Well your really only getting like 5-7fps more with the 6870 so I stand by my suggestion.
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March 17, 2012 9:10:59 PM

Demon slayer said:
So yes then it is agreed the 6850 will max out any game aside form the games that a 7970 will not max out anyways do to to buggy game code or driver issues ect. PS nobody expects blazing maxed out IQ framerates from the little mid range card that could that is the 6850 but it will plug alone quite nicely on any game @ maxed setting and 1080P or under less Metro 2033, Crysis, BF3 the rest are open for maxed out gameplay on the 6850


Aside from the big games like those, a 6850 will manage playable frame rates with a 30 minimum, the 7970 can max those games however and is playable. Can the 7970 do it with 60 minimum? No, but if we are comparing it to the 6850 with 30 minimum being "playable" then YES it can max those games with more a than playable frame rate. Once again, off topic.

I disagree bang for buck it's the 6870 ;) said:
I disagree bang for buck it's the 6870 ;) 


True, the 6870 can be had for $10-20 more and provides a good step up and cost per frame shows it is a better bang for your buck. If lucky, 1ghz core clock on a 6870 can be had and that makes it a few frames behind the 1gb 6950 at stock :D 
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March 17, 2012 9:14:33 PM

omega21xx said:
Aside from the big games like those, a 6850 will manage playable frame rates with a 30 minimum, the 7970 can max those games however and is playable. Can the 7970 do it with 60 minimum? No, but if we are comparing it to the 6850 with 30 minimum being "playable" then YES it can max those games with more a than playable frame rate. Once again, off topic.

Playable = min30fps and ideal = min60fps framerates are the difference between spending $600 or $140 on GPUs god LOL
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March 17, 2012 9:17:56 PM

Demon slayer said:
Playable = min30fps and ideal = min60fps framerates are the difference between spending $600 or $140 on GPUs god LOL


Yeah, but if you compare them like that, you're comparing them apples to oranges and it isn't a fair comparison. Comparing it that way makes the 7970 sound like it only equals the 6850. Just because it has twice the performance of the 6850 does not mean it needs to have twice the minimum frame rate in games to be considered playable.
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