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Help with first Gaming Build please

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May 19, 2012 3:50:59 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: (As soon as possible)

Budget Range: 700 MAX

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games is the main reason, specifically Diablo3....other than that just web browsing.

Parts Not Required: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Would like to buy all the parts from newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type : I hear Diablo and Blizzard games perform better with Nvidia and Intel. Not entirely sure on this.

Overclocking: Doubtful (first build with little computer knowledge)

SLI or Crossfire: Doubtful (first build with little computer knowledge)

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I basically would like to build a rig that runs games flawlessly on MAX settings, specifically Diablo 3 but some other titles as well.

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May 19, 2012 4:44:56 PM

I love it when people want to run games on Max settings and thier budget says medium settings. If you want to run games on max settings then you are going to have to pay for it. However you can put together a decent Pc and run on med-high and 1600x900 resolution and get some good gameplay.

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
$49.99 and a $10 rebate makes it $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i3-2130 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32130
$149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
11.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply , plus a 1TB Western Digital HDD combo deal
$159.99 and a $10 rebate makes it $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASUS P8H77-V LE LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard , plus an Asus GTX 560 video card , combo deal.
$297.98 and a $20 rebate makes it $277.98.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
$47.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This build comes to just about $700 (couple dollars less) and should get you decent performance in the games that you want to play.

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May 19, 2012 4:52:50 PM

The problem with a budget is that there is a limit and when selecting the cpu I had wanted to go with a different one but it was $30 more and it would have put you over the budget. The reason I wanted to go with it was it was a quad core and the on I ended up selecting was a dual core.

Intel Core i5-2310 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz (3.2GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52310
$179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 19, 2012 4:54:13 PM

I'm sorry I did not mean to sound like I wanted Crysis 2 to run on Max settings for 700 dollars with high fps but from what I understand Diablo 3 does not require a whole lot to be able to run on max settings w/ high fps. Is this incorrect?

30-50 dollars more is not a huge issue if we are talking decent performance upgrades.
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May 19, 2012 5:07:31 PM

With the cpu your talking about a dual core vs a quad core so the $30 to me would be worth it. As far as gaming goes your right about Diablo 3 not requiring high powered components to get the highest settings but you had mentioned other games and by not naming them I had no way of knowing what you would be refering to.
If you went with the quad core for the build then I would say that you can play Diablo 3 at max settings and 1920x1080 resolution. The other cpu is a decent one as the stock clock speed is 3.4 ghz which ain't bad and it does have hyperthreading but it's an i3 where the other one is an i5.
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May 19, 2012 5:18:03 PM

When building a computer and gaming is the main focus then the most important component is the video card and after that the cpu. The build I listed is a good one to use as a guide and you can do some resaerch to see if there is a better set of components that can be put together with maybe a higher video card (560Ti). Since this is your first build you want to make sure that you start out right and build a knowledge base so that you can build a better one for your second build and so on. By reading these and other forums you can get a really good sense of what it takes to build a good gaming computer.
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May 19, 2012 5:20:21 PM

would you rather have an i5 with a weaker gpu, or an i3 with a stronger gpu

Coolermaster 430 Case 50$-10 with code EMCNEJB78
Gigabyte 6850 OC160$-12% with code GIGA5X7
Seasonic m12II 520w bronze modular 60$
Corsair Vengeance 2x 4 gb 1600 50-5$ with code EMCNEJE52
500gb WD Caviar Blue+24x Asus Drive 80$
I5-2400 quad core + Asrock Pro3 Gen3 Z68 Mobo 277$

Total with shipping before taxes(if applies to your state) 654.59$

There are 30$ worth of rebates in this. if you have tax, the total will come out to be 701$(california level tax) if you dont have tax, use the extra 46$ to change the 6850 to either a gtx 560 or a hd 6950
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May 19, 2012 6:06:39 PM

"would you rather have an i5 with a weaker gpu, or an i3 with a stronger gpu"


What would you suggest? I'm literally looking for the most effective gaming build for the price point to run mainly Diablo 3.
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May 19, 2012 6:31:34 PM

judius said:
"would you rather have an i5 with a weaker gpu, or an i3 with a stronger gpu"


What would you suggest? I'm literally looking for the most effective gaming build for the price point to run mainly Diablo 3.


a quad core will have more worthwhile effects on games as a whole, a dual core will be enough if you would rather have a gpu that will last a good number of years. on my end, i chose a dual core, but it really depends on if you ever plan on upgrading, since if i ever wanted to upgrade my i3-2120, then i have alot of upgrade choices while if you innately start with a quad core, your upgrade choices are slightly more limited. Though in general, most gamers would probably benefit more from a quad core, mostly if they are playing cpu intensive games.

D3 is a light game, a quad core and decent gpu just leaves you wiggle space if you ever decide to branch off to other games
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May 19, 2012 6:52:33 PM

If i went with the i5 in the build you suggested, would I benefit more by going with a card such as the gtx 550ti or just a plain 560? It seems that blizzard games heavily favor nvidia from what I have read.
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May 19, 2012 8:33:00 PM

judius said:
If i went with the i5 in the build you suggested, would I benefit more by going with a card such as the gtx 550ti or just a plain 560? It seems that blizzard games heavily favor nvidia from what I have read.


In general, it does favor nvidia, but both AMD and Nvidia already go past 60 fps on games, which is virtually invisible to the human eye(and is also dependent on your screens refresh rate). though if i were to say something, I would recommend to not use the 550ti. at the same range, the 460 performs better on the nvidia side(albeit it runs hotter). As for the topic on D3, it doesnt matter what gpu you use, any post 110$ gpu can essentially run D3 at max resolution according to this site. (except maybe the 7750, because its price is higher than its performance due to the fact its very low wattage and requires no 6 pin connector)
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May 19, 2012 8:59:17 PM

560 is MUCH better than the 550ti, so yes! :) 

I would really get the i3-2120 and the 560ti as it is much better than i5-2400 and Radeon 6850.
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May 19, 2012 11:08:19 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

Here are a couple of charts so you can see for your self where cpu's and graphics cards fall in comparison with each other.
You also have to look at the games and read up on the benchmarks that these sites put out so you will know what the different games use most between a video card and a cpu. There are some games where it doesn't matter what you have for a cpu because it mostly uses the video card. If I'm building a computer the one thing I'm going to spend money on and not hold back is a video card. Then it's the cpu that gets the most attention and after that you can skimp on the other things like the case and the motherboard and ram. I'm not saying to get junk parts but you don't need high quality and you can cut some corners.
So you should sit down with a paper and pen and look through Newegg to see what parts you can get. Newegg has some good sales , rebates and combo's that can save you some money. As you can see with the build that I listed there was some combo's in there and I'm sure if you took your time you could find some better ones.
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