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May 19, 2012 7:17:35 PM

So, guys, as the title thread points I'm totally lost in hardware stuff. I got my pc six years ago and now I feel it's time to get a new one. A gaming one. Budget: 2000$ (1500€)

I have tons of doubts so I'll post some:

First of all, I'm wondering if I should get an SLI GTX480. I know those cards are outdated but I have read they work flawlessly. Are the new Kepler or the Radeon worth it the price?

For the CPU I was thinking of an Intel Core i7 3770k 3,5ghz Socket 1155. Which costs 315€ (400$ more or less). Is that too overkill for gaming?

As the MoBo goes... I am totally lost here. Dunno what to get.

Solid State Drive is what I am looking for the drives.

And any cooling advices for this new pc would be appreciated.

I believe I'm missing something so I'm open to opinions.

Thanks for you help, buds.

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May 19, 2012 8:09:25 PM

It is true that two GTX 480s are better than any single new gen card out right now, but unless you plan to play on a very high res, it is not worth the extra cost, heat dissipation, power consumption, or the hassle.
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May 19, 2012 9:27:37 PM

I am building this from scratch so I'm gonna need all the stuff for this.

I'm wondering if I should get an SLI GTX480. I know those cards are outdated but I have read they work flawlessly. Are the new Kepler or the Radeon worth it the price?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the CPU I was thinking of an Intel Core i7 3770k 3,5ghz Socket 1155. Is that too overkill for gaming?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As the MoBo goes... I am totally lost here. Dunno what to get.

Solid State Drive is what I am looking for the drives.

And any cooling advices for this new pc would be appreciated.

And yes I am going to overclock.

I believe I'm missing something so I'm open to opinions.

Grand_Admiral_K said:
First, please read this.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

And then edit your response based on that. You did tell a lot, but this saves us from having to ask questions and makes sure we can take care of all your needs!


I'm sorry if I did something wrong. At the top of this reply is the same post updated as it seems I can't edit my first post.

azeem40 said:
It is true that two GTX 480s are better than any single new gen card out right now, but unless you plan to play on a very high res, it is not worth the extra cost, heat dissipation, power consumption, or the hassle.


Actually I am using a 1920x1200 resolution. And 250$ for a GTX 480 doesn't seem that expensive. Still dunno if it could perform better than a 500$ new gen graphics card.
May 19, 2012 11:22:16 PM

Also it seems the Intel i5 2500k is enough for a full-enhanced gaming. Any thoughts on that?
May 20, 2012 1:38:03 AM

Basically, yes. An i7 just adds a slightly higher stock clock, some more L3 cache, and hyper threading. The only one that matters for gaming is the higher clock, but if you get a CPU with an unlocked multiplier it doesn't matter because you can overclock.

Here's a build that I was planning for myself here in the next few months, with just the case switched out to something a bit more mainstream.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8wrm

This build would allow you to stick in another 680 somewhere down the line too.

Only real concerns on this is that the 3570k is more expensive than the i5-2500k for a relatively small performance gain, but at your price range that shouldn't much matter.The second is that 680s are hard to get a hold of. I'm thinking they're going to get this supply issue worked out soon here, but if not you can get a 7970, which is AMDs top tier and is also an outstanding graphics card.
May 20, 2012 6:32:32 PM

After doing some reading, this is what I think would be good for my gaming rig: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8yhk

Still no clue about the MoBo neither the PSU. Should I go above 1000W if I'm thinking of an SLI?

Also to be added a Nidec fan to the Prolimatech Genesis for overclocking the RAM and CPU.

Any thoughts?
May 20, 2012 6:42:00 PM

Why would you go through all that trouble getting a passive heat sink when you can just get a Cooler Mater 212 Plus? Or as I recommended in my build for you the more expensive but better Noctua NH-D14? As far as air cooling goes you can't get much better than those, and if you were planning on overclocking that high that you were looking for something better than you probably want to go with water cooling. I'm not a fan of that and am not going to recommend that to you.

But take a look at that build I linked you too. Everything is there.
May 20, 2012 10:49:57 PM

Gurzi said:
Also it seems the Intel i5 2500k is enough for a full-enhanced gaming. Any thoughts on that?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic... <---- if you could copy and paste this onto a post here then it would cut right to the chase. It's the sticky at the top of the New Build Forum.
May 21, 2012 4:57:12 PM

There you go.

Approximate Purchase Date: should be within this and next week.

Budget Range: for about 1500-2000$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming for the most part.

Parts Not Required: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS) **Include Power Supply Make & Model If Re-using**

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preferred website.


Parts Preferences: Open-minded. Still it has to be an Intel CPU.

Overclocking: Sure I am.

SLI or Crossfire: Prolly.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200+

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC)

I already narrowed it to this:

Intel i5 3570k 3,4ghz
Noctua D14 cooler
Gainward Phantom GTX 680
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4 GB DDR3 1600
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD
Corsair 650D case

Still missing the PSU and the MoBo.
May 21, 2012 5:13:47 PM

For that budget it's the gtx 670 hands down. A 750w psu to push two of those cards in SLI and have juice left over. That case btw is a bit of a hot box. Take a look at the Corsair 500R for better thermals (temps). For a psu: Seasonic, XFX, Corsair, Antec, Silverstone, PC Power & Cooling , Enermax or the OCZ ZX series.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <---- gtx 670 review with benchmarks $400 USD

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7... <---- $200 USD

or...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <---- $170 USD
May 21, 2012 9:18:59 PM

I Have read the review for the GTX 670. Why would you set an SLI out of the box instead of a possible GTX680 SLI? It's true you save almost 200 bucks, but... It's really that close in performance while oced?

As for the asus mobo goes... Is it fully oceable? Does it have enough space for SLI? As far as I have read, it seems there are mobos that have the PCI slots so close that you have to mount the SLI in slots 1 and 3. Considering it's three-way capable.
May 21, 2012 9:34:25 PM

Gurzi said:
I Have read the review for the GTX 670. Why would you set an SLI out of the box instead of a possible GTX680 SLI? It's true you save almost 200 bucks, but... It's really that close in performance while oced?

As for the asus mobo goes... Is it fully oceable? Does it have enough space for SLI? As far as I have read, it seems there are mobos that have the PCI slots so close that you have to mount the SLI in slots 1 and 3. Considering it's three-way capable.

I wouldn't SLI out of the box unless I would running a tri monitor set up.

I posted a link to those boards so you could see the spacing yourself.

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/motherboards/18707-... <----- review of that board. Google is your friend. :) 
May 21, 2012 9:40:08 PM

The Asus P8Z77 1155 is a great motherboard, that's what I would get. Also, I second the suggestion for the HD 7970 GPU. It's a great card, read the online overclocking reports, you can push this card.
May 22, 2012 12:31:12 AM

Why_Me said:
That case btw is a bit of a hot box. Take a look at the Corsair 500R for better thermals (temps).


I have not read that. In fact, the forums and some reviews say the air cooling the 650D does is flawless. I am reading now some reviews for the one you mentioned.
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