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May 19, 2012 10:21:54 PM

Hello again for people that saw my previous post and hello for the people that are new to this thread :D  I'm starting a different build based on different parts this time, this build is mostly for gaming and making videos using FRAPS, etc. Some people have given me advice for some of the parts on this build(one of them was jmseller). Here's what I could come up with for $650

[EDIT!!] 5/21/2012 2:17PM Some parts are going to be ordered from amazon in order for the budget to stay at $650

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $50(At Amazon.com)

Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.5GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $190(At Amazon.com)

MSI H61M-P20 (G3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $50

G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $22

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $50

2 x APEVIA CF12S-BK 120mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $9

XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $240

-Non-Necessities-
EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 150Mbps Data Rates
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $10

Rosewill 6ft. DVI-D (24+1) Male to DVI-D (24+1) Male Digital Dual Link Cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... = $9.50

Total = $647
Total after MIR = $637

I know the wifi adapter is under non necessities, but it is essential for me since my desktop will be upstairs, and the router is downstairs. But anyways, all help is appreciated :D  But please, if you tell me to upgrade, please dont make me want to use any more money :cry: 
May 20, 2012 5:32:07 AM

I would get 8GB of RAM at least if you plan on making videos. 16GB is recommended, but 8GB at least unless you don't edit your videos at all.
May 20, 2012 5:55:23 AM

For gaming this looks pretty good. For light video making still looks pretty good :) 
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May 20, 2012 10:18:31 AM

z_4 said:
Here's the same build with combos and updates the CPU to i5-2400 & 8GB RAM, includes HDD & Optical Drive in case you forget, at around the same budget. Take a look:

Case: $30- Apex TX381

GPU: $240- XFX 7850(Same)

HDD & PSU: $103- WD Cavier Blue 500GB & CM GX 450

Motherboard & RAM: $94- Gigabyte H61 & Corsair 8GB

CPU & Optical Drive: $197- i5-2400 & Asus

Total(Excluding Rebates): 664 USD

Rebates: $10


While that is a good build, keep in mind that I need WIFI, the dvi cable, and the case fans, by the way, I have two hard drives, they're both 2.5" though, which is why I'm going to use a 2.5" to 3.5" double adapter.

[Edit] Also, that PSU only has 1 PCI-E connector, which would require me to buy a molex to pci-e connector(because the 7850 core doesn't come with one), and then for the case fans i'd have to buy some molex Y cables, which would lead to an unstable upgrade
May 20, 2012 10:24:48 AM

7Ghost said:
I would get 8GB of RAM at least if you plan on making videos. 16GB is recommended, but 8GB at least unless you don't edit your videos at all.


Well I currently make gaming videos on my crappy gaming laptop at 1366x768(Core 2 Duo T5550 @ 1.83Ghz, Mobility HD 2600, 4GB DDR2 667) and I notice an extreme slowdown, but thats only because the CPU is complete trash. I'm sure 4GB is enough
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2012 2:40:00 PM

I seriously don't think you need the extra case fans, even the ones on the case already will provide way more airflow than you strictly need. Having cool components is great but it's going to sound like a jet engine with that many fans.
May 20, 2012 6:16:33 PM

jmsellars1 said:
I seriously don't think you need the extra case fans, even the ones on the case already will provide way more airflow than you strictly need. Having cool components is great but it's going to sound like a jet engine with that many fans.


Really? :\ I thought it just would have something missing to not have any side fans even though theres grills for them. Also, I found out I'd save some money if I ordered some of the parts from amazon instead of newegg. Ordering the CD drive, power supply, and CPU there allows me to get an i5-3450(I know about the BIOS update for the mobo to read 3rd gen CPUs) And that's great for two things, having full PCI Express 3.0 compatibility, and getting a much faster CPU
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2012 6:32:18 PM

Those gaps are more for flexibility so you can put the fans where you need, not many people need to fill them all, especially on a ~300-350W system.
May 20, 2012 6:54:17 PM

jmsellars1 said:
Those gaps are more for flexibility so you can put the fans where you need, not many people need to fill them all, especially on a ~300-350W system.


Lets say I take them off, that would only be $9 off the total price of the system, what could I upgrade with $9?
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2012 9:41:22 PM

The case? Or just pocket the money and end up with a quieter pc.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 1:33:21 AM

IMO, only fans that are good are for the CPU Cooler.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 1:29:02 PM

M59 looks OK, the Coolermaster HAF 912 is another good one. Antec 100 is also good.
May 21, 2012 1:47:31 PM

Does H61 even support Ivy Bridge??

You're going with a really cheap motherboard. I think you should cut back on something else and get an ASRock Extreme3 Gen3.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8Bqg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8Bqg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8Bqg/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $633.77
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-21 10:13 EDT-0400)

And you still have money for your accessories.

An i3-2120 will do just fine for your gaming needs, especially since the i5 you picked isn't overclockable; the i3 won't bottleneck anything. A better motherboard will serve you wonders, especially regarding future upgradeability. 8 Gigs of RAM is definitely a good upgrade from 4 and will leave you very future proof. The GTX 560 ti is almost as good as the HD 7850 but $50 cheaper. I just picked that 600W PSU because its also 80+ certified, it's modular, and its at an amazing price. I included a $25 DVD Writer but if you don't need it, you can't cut back on that also, which will leave the price at $608.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 2:13:11 PM

The H61 board does support IB but it needs a BIOS update and you can't update the BIOS without a compatible CPU. I explained this in a previous post so I think the OP is aware now, well spotted though.

EDIT: The HD 7850 is actually slightly better than the GTX 560Ti 448 Cores IIRC, it also consumes a lot less power than the GTX 560Ti. The HD 7850 is also a fantastic overclocker, when overclocked it trades blows with the GTX 580.
May 21, 2012 2:19:45 PM

Well I know that the 7850 is better than the 560 ti, but I just think he's getting a little ahead of himself with a 7850. Even the 4gb of ram might bottleneck the 7850 which is why I think he should save some money on the GPU/CPU and get a better Mobo/RAM.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 2:23:33 PM

The 4GB of RAM shouldn't bottleneck anything for games, even some of the newest games don't utilise 4GB. Skyrim would only utilise 2GB at first. Don't get me wrong though, the GTX 560Ti is still a great card and another good choice.
Anonymous
May 21, 2012 3:18:49 PM

If your serious on making videos and such. I HIGHLY Reccomend you Go for a better build... Which also means more money...

MOBO: $89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: $120 i3-2100 (Wait For IVY i3's in Q3 or go i5 ivy now)
PSU: $60 520W Seasonic M12ii
GPU: $250 Any 7850 You Like (Sapphire Recommended)
HDD+DVD: $85 500GB HDD + ASUS Dvd Drive Combo
RAM: $50 Corsair Vengeance 8gb Low Profile RAM
CASE: $40 Fractal Design 1000 (Cute, Small, Perfect Case! (Modular PSU = MUST))

Total ~700$... You can get some Combo deals in there to get it to $675....
May 21, 2012 8:07:45 PM

Anonymous said:
If your serious on making videos and such. I HIGHLY Reccomend you Go for a better build... Which also means more money...

MOBO: $89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: $120 i3-2100 (Wait For IVY i3's in Q3 or go i5 ivy now)
PSU: $60 520W Seasonic M12ii
GPU: $250 Any 7850 You Like (Sapphire Recommended)
HDD+DVD: $85 500GB HDD + ASUS Dvd Drive Combo
RAM: $50 Corsair Vengeance 8gb Low Profile RAM
CASE: $40 Fractal Design 1000 (Cute, Small, Perfect Case! (Modular PSU = MUST))

Total ~700$... You can get some Combo deals in there to get it to $675....


I'm not planning on making extreme quality videos and using sony vegas and such, I'm talking about using FRAPS to make gameplay videos, plus, thats a total waste of money since I already have two hard drives and a DVD drive, also, if you look at the list, I already have a i5 ivy on there
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