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Budget video editing and gaming build $700

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May 20, 2012 1:59:21 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: mid-June

Budget Range: $700 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: rendering videos, gaming, photo-editing

Parts Not Required: everything but monitor (need decent mouse and keyboard)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.canadacomputers.com or www.newegg.ca (include shipping in price if linking newegg)

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: none, open minded

Overclocking: Yes, if possible

SLI or Crossfire: no

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Would really like a window with some led's unless someone can convince me that they aren't worth it.
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Here's what i got so far:


Case – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...
- $79.99

Hard Drive –http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
– $84.99

Ram – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- $48.99

Power Supply – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3...
- $74.99

Processor – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- $129.99

Heatsink - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8...
- $29.88

Motherboard – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
-$84.99

Graphics card – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- $129.99

Total – $663.81

Keyboard - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... - $14.98

Mouse - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... -$37.88

Total -$698.47

$15 mir –
http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/033/033494...

$20 mir –
http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/042/042746...

$30 mir –
http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/048/048886...

Total - $633.47
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Before I get people telling me I should go with an i3, I choose the fx-6100 because it's the same price, motherboards are cheaper, and when overclocked it is comparable to an i5-2500k in rendering times and also comparale to the i3 in gaming. I'll try to find the article that I've read.
May 20, 2012 5:25:00 AM

I deal with NCIX (Canada) and really like them so I did my research there. Here's my recommend not counting mouse or keyboard. Also, you might save some money by shipping everything from the same site.

Prices are AFTER any MIR/sale.
(I assume you are getting Windows 7 64-bit OEM, although you may wish to use Windows 8 Consumer Preview and get the 64-bit OEM version when it comes out which I belive is JUNE. Although be prepared for a shock in using it. Still, it's probably best to get Windows 8 as that's the future.)

FYI, I've build 100+ PC's. my budget might go slightly high but I think I put together a pretty good PC with new Ivy Bridge motherboard and CPU:

Motherboard (Ivy Bridge):
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=70901&vpn=Z77%20Pro%20...
$100

CPU:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=70541&vpn=BX80637I5357...
$239

CPU HSF:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67639&vpn=CNPS10X%20OP...
$20

RAM (2x4GB):
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manuf...
$42

Power Supply:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67324&vpn=HCG-520M&man...
$49

Graphics Card:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=56356&vpn=EAH6850%20DC...
$120

DVD/CD burner:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST%2...
$20

Case:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67322&vpn=ONE&manufact...
$40

TOTAL: $630
(not counting MIR etc)

other points:
1) both the motherboard and case support the new USB3 from the FRONT PANEL which I highly recommend as USB thumb drives are already faster than the USB2 limit of 60MB/sec and will be close to 600MB/sec soon (SSD drives are already this fast and they are soon making USB thumb drives using the SSD flash memory)

2) if you EDIT video (not just convert) you may want more than 8GB of RAM. If so, perhaps consider getting 16GB instead for $42 more. do NOT mix RAM types.

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May 20, 2012 5:51:32 AM

*Sorry, I forgot the HARD DRIVE:
The same 1TB WD Blue is $90 here ($85 on sale at Canada Computers). you can SPLIT between different sites but don't forget to factor shipping:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/index.php?sku=58881&vpn=WD1...

So that total (without keyboard and mouse) is now:

$720

(I strongly suggest keeping the CPU I picked and the motherboard I chose, or at least a similar Ivy Bridge motherboard. That CPU, overclocked slightly with Hyperthreading enabled has a lot of processing power for converting videos, and the Ivy Bridge motherboard is future-proofed with the PCIe v3 etc.)

Other points I forgot:
- I use the program HANDBRAKE to convert a lot of my videos. Small learning curve (experiment with small movie trailers maybe) but it's pretty awesome. I also use MKVtoolnix to remove audio tracks and subtitles (not sure if you would need that).

- the Antec ONE comes with two fans (near CPU). Use lowest speed. (My similar Antec instructions were vague, so FYI the entire front panel likely UNCLIPS so do that before adding ANYTHING to the case or it will be a pain)

- Ivy Bridge comes with Virtu technology. It can be turned off completely. However, there are ways to utilize the Intel HD4000 graphics chip to accelerate video conversion. As well some games run FASTER with it enabled (and monitor hooked to motherboard) and others run slower so there's a learning curve there.

So if you buy an Ivy Bridge motherboard (for only $100 it's a darn good idea) spend some time investigating this, however you can simply disable it until you figure out if it has features you want to use.

Good luck. I'm here if you have any questions at all.
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May 20, 2012 12:22:40 PM

Thanks for this build, i really wanted to fit in intel because they are much better than AMD, however it's $50 dollars over but i believe it's worth it.
Just a few questions:

How often do they have the sale where all shipping is only $5 I remember seeing that awhile back, but then again I don't go on their site often.

I found this XFX 650w core edition and I was wondering if I should go with that or the antec 520w modular. Would I need the extra wattage or the extra cable management?The XFX provides free ground shipping for the entire cart so they even out to about the same price.
Nope realized it was for only that item :( 
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May 20, 2012 8:34:09 PM

I read this forum about i5-2500k vs. i5-3570k and I saw this interesting comment:

Originally Posted by SeanPoe

"A lot of people in this thread are making a key mistake. Heat and temperature ARE NOT the same thing. They're closely related to each other, but completely different. Heat is the total energy of molecular motion in a substance while temperature is a measure of the average energy of molecular motion in a substance. Heat energy depends on the speed of the particles, the number of particles (the size or mass), and the type of particles in an object. Temperature does not depend on the size or type of object. For example, the temperature of a small cup of water might be the same as the temperature of a large tub of water, but the tub of water has more heat because it has more water and thus more total thermal energy.
So, just because Ivy Bridge runs hotter at the core level doesn't mean it's putting out more heat. In fact, it's the opposite. Ivy Bridge actually puts off less total heat than Sandy Bridge even though it runs at a higher temperature. So IB actually does not heat up the chipset and GPU more than SB, this is a major misconception. IB also does not require better cooling than SB (and it does not require higher fan RPMs), as the heatsink is seeing the same temperature for both CPU's when they're at comparable overclocks (ie, 4.6 on IB and 4.8 on SB). The IB will still run at a higher temperature than the SB, but the heat output will be the same. The only reason people think the IB requires improved cooling is because they're trying to get the core temps to be the same as SB, when 90c on the IB is perfectly fine.
If the only reason you're worried about going IB is because you think it puts off more heat than SB, than you should reconsider
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May 20, 2012 9:04:12 PM

Here's what I'm currently at:


Case – http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=67322&promoid=1382
- $39.99

Power Supply – http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=67324&promoid=1114
- $68.99
Processor – http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&promoid=1114
- $238.99

Graphics card – http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=56356&promoid=1382
- $139.99

DVD drive - http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST%2... - $19.99

Hard Drive – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...– $79.88

Ram – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- $49.99

Motherboard – http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- $124.99

Total -$767.80

$20 mir - http://www.mirhelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/67324...

$20 mir - http://www.mirhelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ASUS-...

$30 mir - http://img.canadacomputers.com/ProductImages/047/047864...

Total - $697.80
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Questions:
Is the case sufficient for my needs?

Is the graphics card sufficient for my needs?

Thanks.

(note: I will get the heatsink and o/c later).

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