Battlefield 3 - Amd 1090t Bottleneck?

[borntogrill]

Hi I've been having issues with my Amd 1090t processor as in battlefield 3 I think it bottlenecks my gpu (Gtx 680 at 1175 mhz core 3105 Mem) If needed I add +70 core and +350 mem on the gpu but it makes no difference in battlefield 3 as the gpu usage goes from 40-60. My cpu usage on the other hand is way higher. Around the 90%. I run my cpu at stock clocks because I've got the stock cooler. I get around 45-70 fps on low!. Overclocking my cpu increases it a little about 15 fps. I've heared that gtx 680 should easily be able to run at 100+ on low. Is something going on or is my cpu bottleneck so bad it decreases the fps by 55 ?

Specs :
CPU : Amd Phenom II X6 1090t black edition (6x3200)
GPU : EVGA GTX 680 Signature
Mem: Gskill 1x8 gb (1333)
Psu : Cooler Master Silent pro 800w

I've been thinking about buying either a I5-2500k or something different.
Would this fix my issues?

Thank you

 

[obsama1]

Memory is not dual channel. 2x4 is better than 1x8. Try getting a Hyper 212 EVO and overclock to see if that fixes it. Also, make sure your GPU drivers and BF3 are up to date to get the best performance.

 

[devilofdeaths]

Hi I've been having issues with my Amd 1090t processor as in battlefield 3 I think it bottlenecks my gpu (Gtx 680 at 1175 mhz core 3105 Mem) If needed I add +70 core and +350 mem on the gpu but it makes no difference in battlefield 3 as the gpu usage goes from 40-60. My cpu usage on the other hand is way higher. Around the 90%. I run my cpu at stock clocks because I've got the stock cooler. I get around 45-70 fps on low!. Overclocking my cpu increases it a little about 15 fps. I've heared that gtx 680 should easily be able to run at 100+ on low. Is something going on or is my cpu bottleneck so bad it decreases the fps by 55 ?

Specs :
CPU : Amd Phenom II X6 1090t black edition (6x3200)
GPU : EVGA GTX 680 Signature
Mem: Gskill 1x8 gb (1333)
Psu : Cooler Master Silent pro 800w

I've been thinking about buying either a I5-2500k or something different.
Would this fix my issues?

Thank you

what are your usual fps in game

 

[borntogrill]

I usually get 45-70 fps on low settings and 45-60 on ultra ... Odd?

To obsama1 (I don't know how quote and such work first time on this forum making a post). I've got some ocz 2x4 lying around also with 1333 so i'll try that tomorrow. Thanks for the fast response hope it works.

Also I've tried overclocking and as said it increases fps by 15 when changing from 3200 to 3800 which is my absolute max because i'm broke right now and don't like the smell of burning 200 euro's. I'm also getting the Corsair H100 as soon as possible. But would overclocking to 3800 completely fix the bottleneck if there was one?

 

[devilofdeaths]

I usually get 45-70 fps on low settings and 45-60 on ultra ... Odd?

To obsama1 (I don't know how quote and such work first time on this forum making a post). I've got some ocz 2x4 lying around also with 1333 so i'll try that tomorrow. Thanks for the fast response hope it works.

Also I've tried overclocking and as said it increases fps by 15 when changing from 3200 to 3800 which is my absolute max because i'm broke right now and don't like the smell of burning 200 euro's. I'm also getting the Corsair H100 as soon as possible. But would overclocking to 3800 completely fix the bottleneck if there was one?

you don't need to OC to 3.8 you can go slow and go to 3.4 to atleast try it out and also are you using the stock cooler or an aftermarket one

 

[borntogrill]

you don't need to OC to 3.8 you can go slow and go to 3.4 to atleast try it out and also are you using the stock cooler or an aftermarket one

We'll OC to 3.8 gave me 15fps increase still not enough to really enjoy the game. Because running around 50-60 isn't what a 680 should get.
Or will OC to 3.4 be more effective than 3.8?
Also i'm using a stock cooler that's why I don't wanna keep the OC all day.
But i'm going to go for a Corsair H100 soon I think.

 

[obsama1]

Don't get the H100. Get the Noctua D14. Huge, but better than the H100 and cheaper. Also, make sure to get the latest Nvidia beta drivers. Is your Windows 32 or 64bit? Anyway, here's the latest Nvidia beta driver for Windows 7 64bit.

http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/47631

 

[devilofdeaths]

We'll OC to 3.8 gave me 15fps increase still not enough to really enjoy the game. Because running around 50-60 isn't what a 680 should get.
Or will OC to 3.4 be more effective than 3.8?
Also i'm using a stock cooler that's why I don't wanna keep the OC all day.
But i'm going to go for a Corsair H100 soon I think.

no 3.4 won't be better but if you dont wanna burn it up its better than nothing and he is right the noctuna coolers are amazing

 

[borntogrill]

Don't get the H100. Get the Noctua D14. Huge, but better than the H100 and cheaper. Also, make sure to get the latest Nvidia beta drivers. Is your Windows 32 or 64bit? Anyway, here's the latest Nvidia beta driver for Windows 7 64bit.

http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/47631

I am a noob at coolers but that cooler seems enormous and I'm not sure if it will fit. I've got the Mid Tower - Thermal Take Armor A90

Also I already have the newest 306.02 drivers and the issue remained throughout all drivers in the 300 series (I didn't test 200 but i'm not sure if i want to.) I'm sry for the low detail but i can't edit my original post so.
I've got Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.

 

[cbrunnem]

I usually get 45-70 fps on low settings and 45-60 on ultra ... Odd?

To obsama1 (I don't know how quote and such work first time on this forum making a post). I've got some ocz 2x4 lying around also with 1333 so i'll try that tomorrow. Thanks for the fast response hope it works.

Also I've tried overclocking and as said it increases fps by 15 when changing from 3200 to 3800 which is my absolute max because i'm broke right now and don't like the smell of burning 200 euro's. I'm also getting the Corsair H100 as soon as possible. But would overclocking to 3800 completely fix the bottleneck if there was one?

dont waste your money on something that is going to band aid your problem. the problem is that bf3 is very much cpu dependent in MP mode. to solve the problem entirely you need an intel based cpu and motherboard.

 

[borntogrill]

no 3.4 won't be better but if you dont wanna burn it up its better than nothing and he is right the noctuna coolers are amazing

Ah I'll try 3.4 and see if it doesn't melt my cpu, But my main issue is wether the 1090t will bottleneck. I thought that would be sufficient but it clearly isn't?

Also if i were to get a new cpu what should I get ? Preferably Intel
Price can range to say about 300-350 euro. Even if 2500k is great for it's price i'd like to know the best cpu for 300-350 euro.

 

[devilofdeaths]

Ah I'll try 3.4 and see if it doesn't melt my cpu, But my main issue is wether the 1090t will bottleneck. I thought that would be sufficient but it clearly isn't?

Also if i were to get a new cpu what should I get ? Preferably Intel
Price can range to say about 300-350 euro. Even if 2500k is great for it's price i'd like to know the best cpu for 300-350 euro.

3570k or 2500k

 

[borntogrill]

dont waste your money on something that is going to band aid your problem. the problem is that bf3 is very much cpu dependent in MP mode. to solve the problem entirely you need an intel based cpu and motherboard.

I just found out the Budget part in amd hardware. I used to have 6870 and 6970 but they weren't to my likings either. I agree that Intel is the better one here, even though amd crushes intel in Video rendering etc.

Also if i were to get a new cpu what should I get ? Preferably Intel
Price can range to say about 300-350 euro. Even if 2500k is great for it's price i'd like to know the best cpu for 300-350 euro.

 

[obsama1]

You're paying a lot for the 3570K, mobo for the i5, and what you already paid on the PII just to get some better frames in BF3. Are you playing in MP or singleplayer?

 

[obsama1]

The i5 is great, but the price you pay on the i5 and motherboard and what you paid on the x6 already don't justify the cost. Wait till Pilderiver to upgrade.


All you need is to overclock it, and I like said, make sure everything's up to date. That includes:

1. BF3
2. BIOS
3. Mobo drivers
4. Windows updates

 

[borntogrill]

3570k or 2500k

I Think i'll go for the 3570k i've already looked into it and that seemed to be the best option. Will this eliminate any bottleneck though? Or is a major OC needed on the 3570k?

 

[borntogrill]

The i5 is great, but the price you pay on the i5 and motherboard and what you paid on the x6 already don't justify the cost. Wait till Pilderiver to upgrade.


All you need is to overclock it, and I like said, make sure everything's up to date. That includes:

1. BF3
2. BIOS
3. Mobo drivers
4. Windows updates

So will the new cpu be worth it? I mean I don't know the price and 8 cores is usless for me as I am not much into rendering. If Intel will outperfom in gaming i will take it as it is the only thing i need it for. If possible also for recording and streaming but i'm not sure what cpu i should pick for that.

1. Can bf3 be not up to date? I guess it is. I reinstalled twice so it must be.
2. Scarry forums told me that it may fail. I've got no idea how to do this and I'm afraid i'll balls it up.
3. Same as 2.
4. Everything up to date from improtant to additional updates.

 

[borntogrill]

You're paying a lot for the 3570K, mobo for the i5, and what you already paid on the PII just to get some better frames in BF3. Are you playing in MP or singleplayer?

Honestly if the 3570k will fix any issues i'd take it any time. I've got a weird mobo anyway as I feel like it's going to fall apart any moment now....

I'm playing MP as in singleplayer none of these problems occur. I think the gpu usage is maxed and cpu usage is lower. So in sp everything is fine.
This made me believe that the cpu is bottlenecking.

 

[borntogrill]

BIOS is pretty dangerous to upgrade, mobo drivers aren't dangerous.

I'll be trying the mobo drivers I guess then. I haven't got a clue how to do it though. Is there anyway to screw it up? I could really use help on this one.

 

[obsama1]

BIOS is pretty dangerous to upgrade, mobo drivers aren't dangerous.

 

[obsama1]

What mobo do you have?

 

[borntogrill]

What mobo do you have?

Msi 870A-G54
Sorry I couldn't change the original post to add the extra info.

 

[devilofdeaths]

Msi 870A-G54
Sorry I couldn't change the original post to add the extra info.

before you upgrade your cpu upgrade the motherboard.a990 motherboard or even a 970

 

[borntogrill]

before you upgrade your cpu upgrade the motherboard.a990 motherboard or even a 970

Is my motherboard the bottleneck? I'm a bit confused sorry.
But if I'm chaning motherboards i'd rather get a intel setup with it.
I don't know how a 3750k will outperform a 6x3800 cpu though.
It all seems weird to me how this is possible.

 

[obsama1]

Your mobo has a ton of BIOS updates. They update the CPU microcode, so performance does go up. Here's the BIOS file from MSI and instructions on updating it. Go the MFlash section in the 2nd link to know how to update your BIOS.

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/870A-G54.html#/?div=BIOS

http://www.msi.com/service/biosupdate/