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May 20, 2012 10:01:04 PM

Hello. I plan on making a gaming pc. The components I have put together sum up to about $2000 with tax and shipping. Since this is such an investment, I would appreciate it if some of you eggxperts to review my components. Thank you!

I made a wishlist on Newegg to make things easier to review.

Wishlist: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Approximate Purchase Date: This week.

Budget Range: $1700 before rebates.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, monitor, mouse.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: None.

Overclocking: Yes.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe in the future.

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: I would like a window on my case.

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May 21, 2012 12:16:18 AM

Thanks. I just edited the original post. Sorry about that.
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May 21, 2012 12:28:18 AM

No problem. It looks like you have a pretty solid build. But I would look into a couple more things if I was you. One of the most important parts for a gaming rig is the GPU, and you have the 7850, which is a decent one, but is more of a $800 gaming rig build. You definitely want to upgrade that to a GTX 670 imo. To do that we can save you some money in other areas.

-The case, no reason to spend $200 on a case, you should take a look at the Corsair 500r. It has extremely good cooling, cable management, fan control, led control, plus it's very spacious.

-Instead of an ASUS motherboard I would look into Asrock, they have great quality and good customer service and are cheaper.

-You can get a cheaper PSU for 750W. (the 750W is perfect if you are looking to SLI in the future)

-The RAM is a little pricey, and might want to get low profile RAM to be on the safe side to make sure the cooler fits just fine.

-For your cooler, if your not planning on doing extreme overclocking, the H100 would be over kill. the 212 EVO is great for OC up to 4.2 Ghz.

Here is a build I would use for you. Has some of those suggestions I made on it. (might also want to look at a bigger SSD, 60GB is cutting it a bit close for OS/Office/Games

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

May 21, 2012 12:57:20 AM

Thanks for your advice. I've took more time to look at the differences between the 7850 and other high end cards like the 670, and I do think it's worth the extra money to get something like the 670.

I am looking for a case with a window. Viewing my components is something that I would enjoy. I originally was looking at the 500r, but the window on the 650d was the reason I went with it. Is there another case with a large window that has similar features to the 650d but costs less?

The motherboard was another component that I was skeptical about. I've heard good things about the Sabertooth, but is it really worth the money? The main points that I like about the Sabertooth is the thermal armor, thermal radar, and five year warranty. Is the Asrock motherboards as good?

The reason why I went with the HX750 power supply was because it was modular. Unfortunately the TX750 isn't.

Unfortunately I care about the aesthetics of the parts. That's why I went with the red LED fans and the Crucial Ballistix memory.

I planned on OCing up to 4.5 ghz. I felt that water cooling was the best solution to keeping the temperature of the CPU to a reasonable degree. I also like the aesthetics of it. Is there a better option?
May 21, 2012 1:09:24 AM

As long as you looked into it, I'm trying to sway you one way or another, just giving my two cents.

The 650D is a solid case, great reviews and air flow. Cases are really personal, I've never been a big window fan so haven't really looked into many cases with them.

I wouldn't say the Sabertooth is worth that extra money. With the 650D and those extra fans you won't have much to worry about of cooling. And a 5 year warranty is pretty useless, most computers won't stay up to date that long. I've only heard great things about Asrock.

With Corsair cases you generally don't need a modular PSU because the build in cable management systems are so good. But again personal preference.

And if your planning on OCing that high, I would stick with the H100. It does a great job, is quiet, and an extra bonus sense you like the aesthetics.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 1:20:11 AM

4.5 GHz is not H100 territory. It is more of the territory of the Hyper 212 EVO.
May 21, 2012 1:23:08 AM

Definitely look at a cheaper Mobo - something in the $180ish range and use the money saved to get a 670. I'd go with a Windforce or DCUII edition so you can overclock it without high temps and really loud fans.
May 21, 2012 2:14:48 AM

termhn said:
Definitely look at a cheaper Mobo - something in the $180ish range and use the money saved to get a 670. I'd go with a Windforce or DCUII edition so you can overclock it without high temps and really loud fans.


He's not going to get a 670 this week
May 21, 2012 2:17:11 AM

Don't they put a couple up randomly on newegg? And could also check out other sites like amazon, microcenter, ect
May 21, 2012 2:18:16 AM

termhn said:
Definitely look at a cheaper Mobo - something in the $180ish range and use the money saved to get a 670. I'd go with a Windforce or DCUII edition so you can overclock it without high temps and really loud fans.


He's not going to get a 670 this week
May 21, 2012 2:19:00 AM

hopz said:
Don't they put a couple up randomly on newegg? And could also check out other sites like amazon, microcenter, ect


Well if you want to buy it overpriced get it from amazon
May 21, 2012 3:29:19 AM

You have definitely chosen a mixed bag of high end and budget components. I can't see paying $200 for a case, unless money is no object. The graphics card has already been mentioned. Look at the charts on this site and choose one that works for you, bearing in mind that $1700 is a relatively high end budget.

I like the feature set of the Sabertooth Z77, except that it doesn't have WiFi. I have always had good luck with Asus MB's, so I am willing to pay a little more for them, but the Sabertooth is very pricey, and gaming PC's are geriatric in less than three years, never mind five. If you do get a Sabertooth Z77, I recommend you do not pair it with a Corsair 500r case. There is an assembly issue with the front panel USB port connector.

I also don't understand the choice of the small SSD in a $1700 build. I think you should get a 120 GB SSD and have more breathing room for the long term.

If you ever plan to connect this PC with a big screen TV, then maybe a Blu-ray drive is something to consider.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 8:24:37 AM

For $1,700 you shouldn't come up with anything less than a gtx 670. That case is an over priced hot box imo (no side cooling) and the board is expensive for what it offers. If you need wifi then spend $40 on a wifi card.

One stop shopping @ newegg is easy but your about to drop $1,700 bones on a new build. So if that was my $1,700 I would want to get the most for my money. That means using "combo's" on newegg and getting some components from Amazon. Anything down below that's linked to Amazon can be found on newegg but for more $$$. I wouldn't be spending my time on here linking you to components on Amazon if it wasn't a money saver.

Now we know it's near impossible to find a gtx 670 atm but we also know they will eventually be back on the shelves. If that means using your on die Intel HD 4000 graphics to surf the net on your brand new PC until those cards come back in stock then so be it. Don't sell yourself short for the quick buy and don't limit yourself to Newegg like the rest of the sheep searching for a gtx 670. NCIX (US site), Superbiiz, Tiger Direct, Amazon, and a few other sites get X amount of those cards to sell.


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- gtx 670 review with benchmarks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... $400
gtx 670 2GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $259.98 save: $30.00 - $20.00 Mail In Rebates
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <----- another look at that case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $394.98 save: $15.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-extreme6-z77a-g... <----- That Asrock motherboard included in that review. Notice: over clocking, temps, and power consumption on there.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <----- another look at that board along with a link to the most recent bios update

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Heatsink-Technology... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master TPC 812 CPU Heatsink Cooling Pad with Vapor Chamber Technology (RR-T812-24PK-R1)

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- that's a review on that h/s done in a single fan configuration

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <---- that h/s on frosty tech's top 5 list for intel h/s.

This fan down below (and only this fan) clips right onto the back of that CM h/s up above to form a "push - pull effect" to bring cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.45 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX

http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-120GB-Solid-KW-S2... $114.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Kingston SSDNow V+200 120GB SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5 Inch Solid State Drive KW-S2120-4B

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1874/ <----- review of that Kingston 120GB SSD

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $96.48 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,530.84 *not including shipping, tax and rebates
May 21, 2012 10:57:31 AM

Why_Me, would you suggest for the Asrock boards the extreme6 over the extreme4? If so whats the real difference?
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 4:23:42 PM

hopz said:
Why_Me, would you suggest for the Asrock boards the extreme6 over the extreme4? If so whats the real difference?

Size of board (extreme6 is a full size ATX), size of heat sinks, and number of USB ports. The extreme4 comes short of hitting the front stand offs due to it's size. Both boards are great boards though.


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre...
ATX Form Factor: 12.0-in x 9.6-in, 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre...
ATX Form Factor: 12.0-in x 8.6-in, 30.5 cm x 21.8 cm
May 21, 2012 5:49:15 PM

Thank you very much Why_Me, I really appreciate the list you put together. That said, I still have a few more questions.

Would crossfire 7850s be better than a 670? Because I eventually plan on buying a second 7850. And a case window is very important to me. Is there a case that is cheaper, with a window, and with the same quality that the corsair cases have? Also the coolermaster heat sink you have selected costs about as much as a corsair H80. Which is better? Thanks.
a b 4 Gaming
May 21, 2012 6:25:43 PM

fourslice said:
Thank you very much Why_Me, I really appreciate the list you put together. That said, I still have a few more questions.

Would crossfire 7850s be better than a 670? Because I eventually plan on buying a second 7850. And a case window is very important to me. Is there a case that is cheaper, with a window, and with the same quality that the corsair cases have? Also the coolermaster heat sink you have selected costs about as much as a corsair H80. Which is better? Thanks.

gtx 670 ($400) > dual 7850's ($500). Rule of thumb: go big and hold off on adding a second card until needed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- gtx 670 review with benchmarks.


Cooler Master TPC 812 > H80

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=265... <----- that's a review on that h/s done in a single fan configuration

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm <---- that h/s on frosty tech's top 5 list for intel h/s.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... <----- combo (case + psu)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Twin 200mm cooling fans with white LEDs for excellent cooling
Side panel with cutout for window AND mesh with room for four 120mm fans — both included!
May 21, 2012 6:45:16 PM

Dear Sir,

I deeply appreciate your value of aesthetics. so don't cheap out if it undermines your goal of looking awesome - NO REGRETS!

-The Case is personal Preference, if you like the looks go for it. Only things I can think of are bigger is better if you have the room and check out the color of the inside and make sure it matches your color scheme. The Corsair 600T is roomy but shorter if you have limited space, otherwise this case is huge.

-If you want aesthetics inside, that mobo is far and away the best choice, spend the money if you want it to look good, it has top-tier performance anyway.

-Is the 1TB HDD just for storage? You could Double the size of SSD for OS and fav Games/Apps and get a cheaper 7200 HDD.

-The Ballistix look cool but for extreme aesthetics I would recommend 4 sticks, looks way cooler

-In my own personal opinion Air coolers have always looked way cooler than liquid cooling. You can get cool heatsink (they come in black- prolimatech megahalem black series) and grab 2 awesome looking fans that you like and create a really eye-catching cooling solution. The only reason to jump to water is if the overclocking is going to be constant for heavy use or at crazy levels. This case is huge inside and can definitely create a positive airflow situation. Plus the giant H100 radiator can create an eyesore by taking up a lot of room and having fans hanging off into the visual area of your mobo.

-I agree with posts about the 670, the black/white EVGA model also looks pretty slick

Good Luck
May 21, 2012 11:39:00 PM

Why_Me said:
Size of board (extreme6 is a full size ATX), size of heat sinks, and number of USB ports. The extreme4 comes short of hitting the front stand offs due to it's size. Both boards are great boards though.


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre...
ATX Form Factor: 12.0-in x 9.6-in, 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre...
ATX Form Factor: 12.0-in x 8.6-in, 30.5 cm x 21.8 cm



Ok thats good to know thanks. For around a $1500 gaming rig, in a Corsair 500r, GTX 670, ect. Which one would you suggest? the full size extreme6? The cost difference isn't that big, so rather go with what will be more future proof. Also might SLI in the future and planning OC to about 4.2Ghz
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