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March 20, 2012 4:11:08 PM

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to the forums and i hope i'm putting this in the correct department. I recently had a friend force me to buy Battlefield 3, myself not being much of a PC gamer didn't look into 'if' i was able to even run the game. I turned it on, low setting at 2100/1900 res, something like that, and basically, i can really move - FPS must be 3/4.

The below are my current settings, i run Starcraft fine (Removing shaders, lighting, ect)

CPU Type:
Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz
CPU Speed:
2.36 GHz
System Memory:
8 GB
Video Card Model:
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Video Card Memory:
3.24 GB
Video Card Driver:
atiumdag.dll
Desktop Resolution:
1920x1080
Hard Disk Size:
917.24 GB
Hard Disk Free Space:
708.17 GB (77%)
Download Speed:
644.83 kB/s (5.3 mbps)

I'm on a huge budget, strapped for cash, can someone please tell me which videocard (Under 250$) i should purchase? Im not even looking for ULTRA setting, i'd like to run the game well and that is all. Diablo 3 too when it comes out :) 

Help me please <3

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March 20, 2012 4:20:05 PM

for 260 you can get the 7850, which is an excellent card and comparable to 570 when OC'd, I would be the Gigabyte OC version, from 860 to 975 core speed is far more than impressive.
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March 20, 2012 4:30:17 PM

you could get a 7750 or a 7770 and it would run BF3 fine. not at absolute max settings but the game still looks good at high. and its enough for that. btw starcraft will be smooth as butter at max with this card.

$110 for a 7750
$150 for a 7770
March 20, 2012 4:32:27 PM

Diablo 3 as well? That's the key one, i can't imagine it wouldn't be though.

All your information is very helpful, honestly. Thank you.
March 20, 2012 4:42:25 PM

the 7770 would be great for your needs, the 7850 is just more'future proof' I would stretch my budget for the 7850 if I were you. GTX 560 ti is also good.
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March 20, 2012 4:46:36 PM

2100/1900 resolution? That's... big. And odd. Hm.

I do not suggest a 7770 as it is more expensive and performs worse than a 6850. The 7750 is a good card though, similar to a 5770/6770 which are very nice low end cards. The 6850 is faster than all of those.

So yeah something in the 6850, 6870, or GTX 560 area is probably quite good for you. 7850 is awesome of course, but it depends on your expectations.
March 20, 2012 4:58:20 PM

2100/1900 haha, sorry for the mistake. I'm so glad i have this info now, bestbuy here i come!
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March 20, 2012 5:01:37 PM

tonyitalia514 said:
2100/1900 haha, sorry for the mistake. I'm so glad i have this info now, bestbuy here i come!


Nooooo!!! Do not buy a GPU from them! They have bizarre "OEM" type models... you want to go to a place like Microcenter or Fry's (if you're in the USA - Memory Express in Canada is good) and get something from MSI, EVGA, ASUS, Sapphire, XFX, or another reputable brand with a nice warranty.
March 20, 2012 5:06:50 PM

Okay, can i order from newegg? yes i'm in Canada, Quebec - i haven't heard of those stores you are speaking of!
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March 20, 2012 5:41:39 PM

newegg.ca, NCIX.com, tigerdirect.ca, directcanada.com are all pretty good.

Turns out Memory Express is only in BC, AB, and MB
March 20, 2012 5:57:06 PM

Thanks a lot, i cant wait to actually play with at least 20 fps
March 20, 2012 5:58:22 PM

Just to point out that if you are strapped for cash, you can go way cheaper than the 7770 too. My 5770 will run SC2 at Ultra settings and BF3 pretty high on one monitor and good FPS. Just pointing out you can get a 6770 or anything you can find around that performance or even less to save some cash.

Is that GPU integrated? That processor probably gets taxed pretty hard especially in SC2. Don't spend too much on a GPU unless you plan to upgrade the rest of that system within a year or two.
March 20, 2012 6:04:56 PM

Integrated? I'm not sure, ill have to check when i get home i guess, i see what you mean though.
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March 20, 2012 6:09:05 PM

I'm not sure that Intel would integrate an AMD GPU... pretty sure 4350 is discreet. Very low end, though.

But yes I agree a 5770 or 6770 (same exact card) is a great deal at around $100.
March 20, 2012 6:18:32 PM

To make this super easy on my small brain BAHA.

Diablo 3 - I want top settings

Starcraft 2 - Top settings

Battlefield 3 - The best i can get please, i can perform well when it's coppy.

I don't mind spending a little more for the 6850, if it gives me what i need, ill be happy!

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March 20, 2012 6:21:20 PM

The 6850 is around $150, it'll do what you want. If you pay a bit more for the 6870 it will mostly benefit BF3. SC2 isn't hugely demanding (unless you enable AA but there's no point for this game). I don't know what specs D3 will have but my guess is it won't be too much different than SC2.
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March 20, 2012 6:24:42 PM

Nobody asked what your PSU is!!?? What is it? Anyway a 7850 is too much GPU for your CPU. You would be better off with a 6870 and a PSU if you don't have a decent 500W PSU

XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 20, 2012 6:34:15 PM

oh power suply? damn i hope its okay i paid 2.5 thousand about 2 years ago for this junkbox lol... bestbuy
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March 20, 2012 7:44:22 PM

Hmm that 460 is nice but he's in Canada so you need to search newegg.ca not .com.

These are the best cards in the ~$150 range, in order of performance from worst to best:

$115 6770
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

$130-$10 MIR 6790
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

$140 6850
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

$150-$15 MIR GTX 460 1gb
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

$180 6870
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

The 460 is probably the best deal, but the 6850 is very similar performance. 6870 is the best card of course, but I don't know if the extra $40 is worth it for you. The 6790 is a very good card as well and it might not max graphics in all games but it will do well.
March 20, 2012 7:48:32 PM

Ill get the 180 then, let me order this thing, enough said! hehe
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March 20, 2012 7:54:09 PM

Just check your power supply first. You'll need to open your case and have a look at the label. Would hate to have you buy something and then have your system break because the PSU blew up.
March 20, 2012 8:04:26 PM

Leaving the gym in 1 hour, ill check asap - i'm sure it's fine though, gut feeling.. ill post it as soon as i get the info
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March 20, 2012 8:14:11 PM

This info is good till Friday

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 125.00 460-768 MB (314/592) $ 0.40 - $ 0.42
$ 140.00 6850 (371/634) $ 0.38 - $ 0.44
$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 200.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.44 - $ 0.51
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 270.00 560-448 (501/835) $ 0.54 - $ 0.65
$ 320.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.61 - $ 0.73
$ 450.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.73 - $ 0.94
$ 725.00 6990 (762/903) $ 0.95 - $ 1.61
$ 750.00 590 (881/982) $ 0.85 - $ 1.53
$ 480.00 7950 (603/NG) $ 0.80 - ERR
$ 560.00 7970 (675/NG) $ 0.83 - ERR

Within your stated budget range (US prices), the two highlighted in bold offer the best bang for the buck.

With Kepler expected on Friday or shortly thereafter, expect things to get shaken up a bit very soon. The 7850/7870 is out but the data on Guru3D for the 7850, last I looked, was for the reference model, and nobody is selling reference models. Guru3D has the released 7870 tested but I haven't had a chance to add it to table. I expect the 7850 though to have great cost per frame numbers.....and two of them in CF I'm sure will kick butt on the more expensive singe 7970.
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March 20, 2012 8:23:50 PM

Except the prices are different in Canada. For example the 6850 is the same at $140 but the 6870 is not $160, it's $180.

However, cool chart nonetheless.
March 20, 2012 9:47:06 PM

The 6870 should be here shortly, thank you, thank you!
March 20, 2012 9:47:51 PM

tonyitalia514 said:
To make this super easy on my small brain BAHA.

Diablo 3 - I want top settings

Starcraft 2 - Top settings

Battlefield 3 - The best i can get please, i can perform well when it's coppy.

I don't mind spending a little more for the 6850, if it gives me what i need, ill be happy!


To reiterate, you will get all you want out of a 5770 or 6770 or maybe even less of a GPU (next step down or step down in Nvidia).
March 20, 2012 9:50:12 PM

tonyitalia514 said:
oh power suply? damn i hope its okay i paid 2.5 thousand about 2 years ago for this junkbox lol... bestbuy


You got totally ripped off then. My system is over a year old and cost 800 bucks, and it's still top end other than video card (which I'm getting two 7870s to correct that situation).
March 20, 2012 9:55:23 PM

wolfram23 said:
I'm not sure that Intel would integrate an AMD GPU... pretty sure 4350 is discreet. Very low end, though.

But yes I agree a 5770 or 6770 (same exact card) is a great deal at around $100.


Good point on that, although it's not neccessarily Intel's call what the motherboard manufacturer puts on the motherboard. We aren't talking APU, we are talking embedded GPU in the motherboard. The OP said 3.25 GB Video RAM, which is obviously going to be shared memory typically home to integrated graphics.
March 21, 2012 11:24:34 AM

Hey Guys,

I bought the 6870, watched a few videos online of people playing it, when it gets here today or tomorrow, i hope all go's well
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March 21, 2012 1:31:23 PM

tonyitalia514 said:
Hey Guys,

I bought the 6870, watched a few videos online of people playing it, when it gets here today or tomorrow, i hope all go's well


Awesome! Good luck!

Just make sure to do a clean install
March 21, 2012 5:51:41 PM

Looks like i might mess up along the way with this one, ill try and get a friend to help, i'd reformat or whatever but i've downloaded way to many games at this point haha
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March 21, 2012 6:00:49 PM

Oh that doesn't matter. Read carefully, all you do is remove the old video card drivers completely so there is nothing that can screw up the new install. Sometimes traces like regkeys get left behind and can cause issues with a brand new GPU.
March 22, 2012 1:52:02 AM

Hey look at this, turns out i have a terrible 300W PSU, neat!? Lol, i could cry.
March 22, 2012 2:20:00 PM

tonyitalia514 said:
Hey look at this, turns out i have a terrible 300W PSU, neat!? Lol, i could cry.


Lol... Yeah, That's not going to be ideal.
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March 22, 2012 2:46:09 PM

You can probably run on that for a little while, but I'd look into getting a new PSU ASAP. You don't need something super beefy or expensive, a good 450W unit from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic etc will work fine. Just don't go for weird brands like Diablotek.
March 22, 2012 4:35:13 PM

What about coolmaster 700W?
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March 22, 2012 4:44:33 PM

Yeah that's more than enough. Can you link to the actual model?
March 23, 2012 12:57:13 PM

Okay, the videocard got here today. This is a picture of what my current PSU looks like, i will buy a powerful one this weekend for sure, can i agt least run the game for a night or two?

Wolfram, can i have your email to send you the picture? or wait, heres what it says;

Liteon model # PS-5301-o8ha

http://www.cwc-group.com/hp4030posumo.html
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March 23, 2012 5:39:03 PM

Just don't run any stress tests on that... it will probably be ok for today
March 26, 2012 6:44:57 PM

So, cause im sure you care! :) 

I installed everything, followed your instructions and BF3 and SC2 are in perfect condition. It's amazing!

Thank you all!
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March 26, 2012 7:03:45 PM

Glad to hear it! Congrats!
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