Is this a good build for $1200

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: $1200 After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: High-end gaming

Parts Not Required: monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: US

Parts Preferences: What ever is best performance/price ratio in my budget

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - only if I can get better performance for the same price

Monitor Resolution: ? I'll probably connect it to a 1080p tv but, if I get a high res monitor I want it to work well too

Additional Comments: I cannot exceed $1200 after rebates but, I want to maximize my budget. So basically I'm looking for the best I can do for $1200.

Here's what I got:
CPU:i5-3570K
GPU:Sapphire Radeon HD7950 3GB 384-bit
mobo:Biostar TZ77b
cooling:Intel BXRTS2011LC Liquid-cooled w/ Artic Silver 5
ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1600
SSD:Kingston HyperX 3K 90GB SATAIII
HD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM sata 6.0GB/s
optical:Samsung 22x DVD Burner
PSU:CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
case:NZXT GAMMA Classic Series Steel ATX Mid Tower
keyboard and mouse: haven't picked one yet

Total w/ shipping after rebates:$1101.64

So my main questions are:
Will this setup work well for high-end gaming w/o overclocking?
I do want to overclock so will this setup work well for that?
Would this PSU be better for overclocking? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703027

Any other advise or suggestions would be great.
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  1. I can understand you going for the combo deal because of the budget but that Biostar board will not be very good for gaming. It only has one Pci-e x16 slot so crossfire/SLI is out because the second card will be in a x4 slot. I also don't know how that board is for overclocking but you do have a cpu that will overclock. I think you will be better off with a GTX 670 than a 7950 for only $10 more.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675
  2. +1 to both inzones points.

    A better mobo can be had, and a 670 will offer more performance than a 7950.

    Also, the 'water' cooler is a joke. Get a decent air cooler and it will outperform it. A hyper 212+ evo is pretty cheap, perform better and be WAY quieter (that intel solution has a 2200rpm fan)
  3. Here is what I would gun for:

    1

    NZXT Tempest 210 CA-TP210-01 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811146084
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


    $54.99
    1

    MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    Item #: N82E16814127675
    Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy


    $399.99
    1
    -----if you want to OC----------
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
    Item #: N82E16835103065
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    -$5.00 Instant
    $10.00 Mail-in Rebate


    $34.99
    $29.99
    1

    ---combo---- (note: price keep going down so I'd get more giga later if needed)
    Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #: N82E16822136769
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    Item #: N82E16827135204
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    -$10.00 Instant
    -$13.00 Combo


    $102.98
    $79.98
    1

    -----comb0----
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ...
    Item #: N82E16817139020
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
    Item #: N82E16820233144
    Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
    -$30.00 Instant
    -$15.00 Combo
    $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


    $174.98
    $129.98
    1

    ---------combo--------
    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
    Item #: N82E16819115072
    Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
    GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Item #: N82E16813128498
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    -$20.00 Instant
    -$16.00 Combo
    $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card


    $389.98
    $353.98
    Subtotal: $1,048.91

    Add SSD later: The price keeps coming down. I have this one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 and it has come down in price by about 20 bucks.


    So far, I am not a big fan of IB given the SB i5k. There is no real point (gaming wise) to go past it.
  4. Thanks inzone and welshmousepk
    Based on your recommendations:
    -changed the mobo to a Gigabyte board with 2 PCI express 3.0 (x16, x8)
    -went with the GTX660 over the 7950
    -changed the PSU to a 750w PCp&c Silencer which should be better for oc'ing. Also $10 less
    -went with Hyper 212 evo over water cooling

    Here's the new build
    CPU:i5-3570K
    GPU:MSI GTX 670 2GB 256-bit
    mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
    cooling:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO w/ Artic Silver 5
    ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1600
    SSD:Kingston HyperX 3K 90GB SATAIII
    HD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM sata 6.0GB/s
    optical:Samsung 22x DVD Burner
    PSU:PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready PSU
    case:NZXT GAMMA Classic Series Steel ATX Mid Tower
    keyboard and mouse: haven't picked one yet

    Total w shipping after rebates: $1188.55
  5. Looks good now and the thing is you now have the three components needed for Pci-e 3.0 to work. The Pci-e 3.0 gives you increased bandwith over the Pci-e 2.1 and while it's still hard to saturate the Pci-e 2.1 at least now you don't have to worry about the possability of it holding you back.
    Plus your still under budget so good job with that!
    A word of caution with a SSD under 100gb is make sure you watch what you put on it so as you don't fill it up , just the OS and the current game and everything else on the HDD.
  6. @loops
    Thanks, I agree with going with a smaller HD. I already have two external drives one with 320GB and one with 500GB. The thing is I want to maximize my budget and going with a similar HD with only 500GB only saves me about $15.

    I think I want to stick with the ivy-bridge, the z77 mobo although I notice the savings when going with the i5-2500K.
    Also I want to go with the 750 PSU.

    @inzone
    I understand keeping an eye on what I put on the SSD. Eventually when prices come down I think I'll get another bigger SSD and just use this one for the OS.
  7. Here's another thought and it has to do with the video card. If at some point later on you think you might want to add another GTX 670 and it might need a bigger psu than the 750w you might want to consider a bigger psu now so you don't have to change out the one you have for a bigger one later. It's just a thought and you may not even want to get a second card but if you did....
  8. jaa228 said:
    @loops
    Thanks, I agree with going with a smaller HD. I already have two external drives one with 320GB and one with 500GB. The thing is I want to maximize my budget and going with a similar HD with only 500GB only saves me about $15.

    I think I want to stick with the ivy-bridge, the z77 mobo although I notice the savings when going with the i5-2500K.
    Also I want to go with the 750 PSU.

    @inzone
    I understand keeping an eye on what I put on the SSD. Eventually when prices come down I think I'll get another bigger SSD and just use this one for the OS.


    You have a fine build. IB is not a step down in anyway, there is just not much performance gain in terms of money spent imo.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-4.html

    As a gamer there's little reason to pay more for Intel's Core i5-3570K instead of the i5-2500K. However, it is worth noting that the third-gen Core processor features a lower TDP and includes 16 lanes of PCI Express 3.0 connectivity. If you're buying a 7-series motherboard and Radeon HD 7000- or GeForce GTX 600-series graphics card anyway, enabling a faster connection between the CPU and GPU might be an important check-list feature (even if it isn't an important performance consideration).

    As far as overclocking is concerned, you should be able to hit similar clock rates on the Core i5-3570K as Sandy Bridge-based CPUs, though you may need to live with higher temperatures, as Ivy Bridge runs notoriously warmer.
    Read our review of the Ivy Bridge-based CPUs here.

    Past the Point of Reason:

    CPUs priced over $220 offer rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to game performance. As such, we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than the Core i5-2500K, especially since this multiplier-unlocked processor can be overclocked to great effect if more performance is desired. Even at stock clocks, it meets or beats the $1000 Core i7-990X Extreme Edition when it comes to gaming.

    It is all about balance tho, and your set up has it. The 750 is nice and gives you room to OC/SLI.
  9. jaa228 said:
    Thanks inzone and welshmousepk
    Based on your recommendations:
    -changed the mobo to a Gigabyte board with 2 PCI express 3.0 (x16, x8)
    -went with the GTX660 over the 7950
    -changed the PSU to a 750w PCp&c Silencer which should be better for oc'ing. Also $10 less
    -went with Hyper 212 evo over water cooling

    Here's the new build
    CPU:i5-3570K
    GPU:MSI GTX 670 2GB 256-bit
    mobo:GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H
    cooling:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO w/ Artic Silver 5
    ram:Corsair Vengeance 8GB(2x4GB) DDR3 1600
    SSD:Kingston HyperX 3K 90GB SATAIII
    HD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM sata 6.0GB/s
    optical:Samsung 22x DVD Burner
    PSU:PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready PSU
    case:NZXT GAMMA Classic Series Steel ATX Mid Tower
    keyboard and mouse: haven't picked one yet

    Total w shipping after rebates: $1188.55

    First off good luck fitting any kind of cpu h/s with that RAM. Those cake cutter heat spreaders are great if you plan on using them for a hair comb, but their going to screw you when you go to install that cpu h/s. Second the CM EVO comes with MX-4 which is a great thermal compound so you can scratch the arctic silver off your list. Third don't limit all your shopping to newegg or your going to get hosed for a few dollars.


    http://www.amazon.com/PC-Power-Cooling-Performance-compatible/dp/B003U29C3Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645390&sr=1-2 $93.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.944624 $214.98 save: $20.00
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-3570K-Processor-BX80637I53570K/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645509&sr=1-4 $239.66 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Intel Core i5 3570K Processor 3.4 4 BX80637I53570K

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-Black/dp/B0057FRTPW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645451&sr=1-1 $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
    Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191 $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
    Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645703&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1) Dimension: 9.1 x 18.9 x 19.5 inches
  10. inzone said:
    Here's another thought and it has to do with the video card. If at some point later on you think you might want to add another GTX 670 and it might need a bigger psu than the 750w you might want to consider a bigger psu now so you don't have to change out the one you have for a bigger one later. It's just a thought and you may not even want to get a second card but if you did....


    How many watt PSU would I need assuming I buy a good quality PSU?
  11. jaa228 said:
    How many watt PSU would I need assuming I buy a good quality PSU?

    750w psu for dual 670's in SLI will leave you a bit of safe headroom for over clocking and what not.
  12. Why_Me said:
    First off good luck fitting any kind of cpu h/s with that RAM. Those cake cutter heat spreaders are great if you plan on using them for a hair comb, but their going to screw you when you go to install that cpu h/s. Second the CM EVO comes with MX-4 which is a great thermal compound so you can scratch the arctic silver off your list. Third don't limit all your shopping to newegg or your going to get hosed for a few dollars.


    http://www.amazon.com/PC-Power-Cooling-Performance-compatible/dp/B003U29C3Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645390&sr=1-2 $93.49 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.944624 $214.98 save: $20.00
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-3570K-Processor-BX80637I53570K/dp/B007SZ0E1K/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645509&sr=1-4 $239.66 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Intel Core i5 3570K Processor 3.4 4 BX80637I53570K

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-Black/dp/B0057FRTPW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645451&sr=1-1 $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
    Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191 $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
    Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996995

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1337645703&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1) Dimension: 9.1 x 18.9 x 19.5 inches


    If I go with everything you suggested except the case I'll save $26 from my original build. Thanks and great point about the ram I wasn't sure if that was going to be a problem. Also I think the motherboard you picked is a lot better than the one I picked.
  13. jaa228 said:
    If I go with everything you suggested except the case I'll save $26 from my original build. Thanks and great point about the ram I wasn't sure if that was going to be a problem. Also I think the motherboard you picked is a lot better than the one I picked.

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extreme4 <----- when you do your build make sure your board has the most recent bios

    http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme4_review,1.html <---- here's a review on that board with benchmarks
  14. Hey, I actually posted a very similar build on another post to help somebody, so check it out at https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?BundleExist=N&ID=19380852&ChangeQty=0

    Add up the costs from the notes under every part i put and then add $20 for a cheap DVD drive and it totals $1225.48. Prices only valid today!

    Basically here's the build:
    Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-002OR Newegg Exclusive Black Finish w/Orange Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
    RAM: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-90G 2.5" 90GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    GPU: MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    PSU: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply
    Optical: Some cheap $20 DVD Drive

    You can pick another color for case like this: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case. (also comes with free mouse) You can downgrade cooling to hyper 212+ if need be. Other things can be tweaked to your liking.
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