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May 22, 2012 12:29:50 AM

I am a first time builder and the more research I do the more I think I'm out of my depth. But I'd still like to give it a go so any suggestions/advice will be given serious consideration.


Approximate Purchase Date: before the end of the month

Budget Range: ~$2000 Cdn Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming, CADD, number crunching (ie. iterative functions), MS Office suit, torrenting, streaming video,

Parts Not Required: budget is for tower only

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
newegg.ca, tigerdirect.ca, ncix.ca, canada computers, memory express

Country: Canada

Overclocking: Maybe (if I can figure out how)

SLI or Crossfire:
Yes (hopefully I can get it to work)

Monitor Resolution: haven't decided

Additional Comments: Having a stable system is more important than pushing limits for more power.

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Here's a list of everything I've picked out. Suggestions are welcome. I don't mind paying a bit more for good quality parts. The only thing I will not reconsider is the case. This sounds shallow but I've been looking for half a year and so far the NZXT Phantom 410 is the only one I don't find ugly. I refuse to spend money on a case I don't enjoy looking at.

CPU/MOBO: i7-2700k/Asus P8Z68-V Pro / Gen 3
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_2700K_Z68VPRO...

GPU: 2 X GTX56 Ti 448 core
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

PSU: Corsair professional HX850
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-128G 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Optical Drive: Haven't decided. Would like to be able to play blueray

HSF: Corsair H80
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Case NZXT Phantom 410
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...

I am worried that there have been a lot of negative reviews on mobo lately. It scares me that a lot of them, like the one I picked out, have a 30% 1 star rating. It also concerns me that these bad ratings have mostly been recent. Is it just me or is quality control going down the drain? If anyone has suggestions on a good mobo I would really appreciate it. I would also consider a i7-3770k and a ~$200 Z77 mobo.

I have also been told that HDD bigger than 1 TB tend to be unstable. Would anyone be able to confirm that?

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May 22, 2012 1:06:38 AM

I don't agree with much here. Is there any reason why you wouldn't go with Ivy Bridge? SLI/Crossfire is under scrutiny now because of something called microstuttering. For now, most people are recommending single card solutions. The power supply is very nice, but a 750w non-modular PS would get the job done for significantly less money. Liquid cooling is really only for the most aggressive overclockers, and since you are going to be doing things like CAD where stability is paramount, I don't know why you would want to go there.
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May 22, 2012 1:49:29 AM

I am leery of brand new tech. Sandy Bridge has been around and tested and is a nice stable platform. Ivy Bridge is still new enough that there can be potentially undiscovered problems. I'm not against going Ivy Bridge, I'd just rather stick with the devil I know. But if that's the better way to go I'll reconsider.

I have read the article on microstuttering. I'd be lying if I said I understood all of it. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference but I will look into a single card instead.

As for the PSU, I've heard that modular makes things easier. Being completely inexperienced, I'd rather pay more if it makes things easier in any way. And I was probably overly paranoid about my power needs. One calculator gave me something around 720 W. I thought better safe than sorry.

I'm not quite sure how much room I'll have in my case for cooling. But I have seen that liquid cooling will fit. I have also read some complaints on a couple Z77 mobo that there's very little room for the heat sink because of where the RAM is placed. Since I have considered Ivy Bridge I was worried about space.
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May 22, 2012 2:01:25 AM

Don't go water cooling if you aren't doing high OC's. Just get low profile ram that will fit under a larger air cooler.

As for the PSU, you don't need that much. Go to the Corsair TX650 or TX750 and get rid of those two GTX560's.

Get a GTX670. You will save 200 and you will use far less power.
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May 22, 2012 2:37:51 AM

winterborn24601 said:
I am leery of brand new tech. Sandy Bridge has been around and tested and is a nice stable platform. Ivy Bridge is still new enough that there can be potentially undiscovered problems. I'm not against going Ivy Bridge, I'd just rather stick with the devil I know. But if that's the better way to go I'll reconsider.

I have read the article on microstuttering. I'd be lying if I said I understood all of it. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference but I will look into a single card instead.

As for the PSU, I've heard that modular makes things easier. Being completely inexperienced, I'd rather pay more if it makes things easier in any way. And I was probably overly paranoid about my power needs. One calculator gave me something around 720 W. I thought better safe than sorry.

I'm not quite sure how much room I'll have in my case for cooling. But I have seen that liquid cooling will fit. I have also read some complaints on a couple Z77 mobo that there's very little room for the heat sink because of where the RAM is placed. Since I have considered Ivy Bridge I was worried about space.


I haven't heard much negative about IB yet, except that SB can be pushed further for extreme overclocking. In the real world IB can be overclocked enough to get to the point where more OC doesn't provide better frame rates for games, or so I'm told. I only do moderate overclocks. My two IB builds are only at 4.1 GHz

Cost, power needs, space, and noise are other reasons to avoid SLI/Crossfire.

The modular PS isn't going to make your build significantly easier, IMO. It will make the inside of the case neater, look better and maybe provide slightly better air flow. But once you close the case you will never think about it again. You could try a good new game with the money saved.

I bought low profile RAM so I wouldn't have to worry about it bumping into anything. I have the Hyper 212 Evo on both of my builds and it was not a problem.
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May 23, 2012 9:31:19 PM

Just taking a quick look at some motherboards that have been recommended as I myself am looking to do a new build.

One from EVGA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And one from ASUS

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Though I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for.
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May 31, 2012 4:13:13 AM

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