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Need Advice. Under 2200$ computer

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May 22, 2012 3:13:05 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within Two Months

Budget Range: 2000-2200 $

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: No OS required

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg or Tigerdirect

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: Nvidia Graphics Cards are preferred

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Eventually

Monitor Resolution: 1920x 1080 or more if possible.

Additional Comments: I care more about power than noise.

Parts:

Monitor:

ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU & Case Fans:

COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master TPC 812 RR-T812-24PK-R1 120mm Sleeve with Dual Vertical Vapor Chamber TPC 812 CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD:

Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive and Disk Drive Combo:

Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Keyboard and Mouse Combo:

RAZER Black USB Wired BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

RAZER DeathAdder Black Edition RZ01-00152400-R3M1 Black 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical Mouse

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Case and RAM Combo:

Corsair Carbide Series 500R White Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU and MOBO Combo:

Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K

ASUS P8Z77-V LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GPU and Power Supply Combo:

EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 3.0, DVI-D, DVI-I, HDMI, Display Port, DirectX 11

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Corsair HX850W 850w Modular Power Supply - Single Rail, 80 Plus Silver

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


Total Cost (including shipping): $2065.93

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May 22, 2012 3:43:51 AM

Looks solid overall. But there is some waste in that build:

Games don't really use over 4 cores so the i7 is overkill an i5 will do just fine- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

That high profile ram will get in the way of the CPU cooler and games really only use 4gb MAX so 16gb's is overkill if you are just gaming- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

And 2 GTX 670's in SLI will easily be run by a 750w PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 22, 2012 3:48:21 AM

Did you see reviews of that cooler yet? It sounds like a gimmick. If you are serious about overclocking get the Corsair H100, it fits in that case:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1130705/2500k-corsair-500r-w...

You do NOT need 16GB of RAM, and populating all 4 DIMM slots is often a problem. Get a 2x4GB kit.
G.skill 1600 1.5V CL8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 670 SLI is not very thirsty
http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264

You can save a bit on the PSU. I think the Capstones are back in stock:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And they have a modular version... that's going to be an amazing value. The only draw back will be the shorter warranty, 5 years instead of 7
(you have to look at the Rosewill site to see the actual warranty)
http://www.rosewill.com/products/1806/ProductDetail_Spe...
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May 22, 2012 4:00:23 AM

Frostytech reviewed it and it cooled very well. It is a great CPU cooler for the price.
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May 22, 2012 4:18:44 AM

mjmjpfaff said:
Frostytech reviewed it and it cooled very well. It is a great CPU cooler for the price.


And quieter than the H100 as well. I'm sure push/pull on the H100 with good fans would do better, but that does seem like a great cooler for the price.
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May 22, 2012 4:32:15 AM

CPU HSF:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-TP...

Get the Zalman CNPS12X. If you look at the two charts in the link above, note that there's a 2deg difference in cooling but the Zalman CPNS12X is far, far quieter. Price is similar.

CPU:
Not sure how you use your PC overall but this CPU is a little expensive IMO. I personally like HT (i7 series has hyper-threading) because I convert video and enabling this makes it 30% faster. Most people turn HT off for gaming though in practice only a couple games have issue.

I would maybe recommend the i7-3570K for $220 which would be almost identical for games. I'd probably disable HT in the BIOS unless I was converting videos and needed the performance (even then sometimes the bottleneck is the program, or it's using an acceleration feature that doesn't need the CPU as much).

RAM:
RAM is cheap. I personally recommend 8GB unless you edit video. I definitely recommend more than 4GB for gamers. Still, that extra 8GB to get 16GB total adds only a couple Watts of power so it's not worth stressing over.

SSD:
I'd personally recommend getting a 120GB SSD as well as a hard drive. You definitely want a hard drive (like a WD 2TB Green) for videos, STEAM game folder and a backup IMAGE of Windows 7 (I use Acronis True Image). WD and Seagate have free versions of this if you have on of their drives.

Windows OEM:
You may wish to consider using Windows 8 for now. The Consumer Preview comes out in June and Windows 8 is supposed to launch in Q4 2012. (i.e. Windows 8 Premium 64-bit OEM).

GTX670:
I have no issues here, though I strongly recommend a non-reference cooler for only a little more (once in stock) such as the Asus DirectCU II models.

*NOISE:
For every 10dB increase the overall noise DOUBLES. 75dB is FOUR TIMES louder than 55dB. Just FYI.
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May 22, 2012 4:44:18 AM

^No noise doubles every 3db.

And with the money you saved with the changes I posted above you should invest in a better monitor.

Tom's Hardware reviewed the Dell U2412M and found it to be superior to other ~24" monitors- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 310$
The resolution is 1920x1200p (I prefer a 4:3 screen).
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May 22, 2012 4:45:59 AM

I don't know about that cooler but don't get H100 it's a waste of money and not real water cooling
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May 22, 2012 5:07:02 AM

It's not a question of if it's "real water cooling" or not. I use a single loop with an MCP655 and a full EK GPU block myself, but that wasn't the point.

The point is that the H100 is at the top of Frostytechs (and everyone else's) cooling charts. It can be made quieter with the right configuration, and is easy to install in the right case. It's a very good option for a number of builds, even if not for this particular one.
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May 22, 2012 6:33:27 AM

Most people think leak when it comes to WC, but if you're really careful, no such thing will happen.
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May 22, 2012 2:40:35 PM

Proximon said:
It's not a question of if it's "real water cooling" or not. I use a single loop with an MCP655 and a full EK GPU block myself, but that wasn't the point.

The point is that the H100 is at the top of Frostytechs (and everyone else's) cooling charts. It can be made quieter with the right configuration, and is easy to install in the right case. It's a very good option for a number of builds, even if not for this particular one.

I agree the fans that they come with are terribly loud but I have heard many people complain about a sort of grinding and ticking noise that is made by its pump which many people had to mod in the end to get it to stop.
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May 22, 2012 9:25:15 PM

I forgot to mention that I use a lot of game designing software which will probably use a solid amount of the processing power that the i7-3770k has. Also I have read up on the fan and I really think I would like to stick to the cpu fan I have and do a push/pull with the case fan I listed, partly because I don't want to have to deal with the maintenance of a water cooling system. As far as the Power Source goes the one I have after rebates and discount It costs as much as the 750w one and it is higher wattage.
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