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GC 2005: Xbox 360 Pricing Revealed

August 17, 2005 - Today at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany,
Microsoft unveiled the price of their upcoming next-generation system.

The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded model,
and will carry two separate price points.

The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States,
?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the
console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable and
an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership allows
you to create a user id, download game content, access the Xbox 360
marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with friends. It
does not, however, allow users to play games online. To do this, Silver
members must upgrade to a Gold membership.

The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United
States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come complete
with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable hard drive,
a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables, an Ethernet
cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited time (most likely
only though the end of 2005), an Xbox 360 media remote.

The Xbox 360 will launch in North America, Europe and Japan this
holiday season. Expect to hear more about the Japanese launch and
pricing at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, which takes place in
mid-September.


<http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html>
 
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Hillybilly J. Duncequeer wrote:
> GC 2005: Xbox 360 Pricing Revealed
>
> August 17, 2005 - Today at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany,
> Microsoft unveiled the price of their upcoming next-generation system.
>
> The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded model,
> and will carry two separate price points.
>
> The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States,
> ?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the
> console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable and
> an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership allows
> you to create a user id, download game content, access the Xbox 360
> marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with friends. It
> does not, however, allow users to play games online. To do this, Silver
> members must upgrade to a Gold membership.
>
> The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United
> States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come complete
> with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable hard drive,
> a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables, an Ethernet
> cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited time (most likely
> only though the end of 2005), an Xbox 360 media remote.
>
> The Xbox 360 will launch in North America, Europe and Japan this
> holiday season. Expect to hear more about the Japanese launch and
> pricing at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, which takes place in
> mid-September.
>
>
> <http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html>

Ouch. $400 for the HDD system? So they are asking folks to pay $100
more for a 20GB HHD?

I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
generation.
 
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steven wrote:
> cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and headset
> and HD cables

No way?!?!?! You get a wireless controller instead of a wired one?
Wow, where do I sign up?

Let's add this up. An upgrade of a wired to wireless is about....say
$10. And a headset? Everyone already has one, so scratch that. A
media remote? Useless. HD cables? Everyone already has them. Unless
MS isn't going to follow along the line of Sony and Nintendo and *not*
make the previous audio/video cables compatable with their newer
system. I mean Microsoft wouldn't stoop to something like that would
they?

So anyway, let me correct myself. So they are asking folks to pay $100
more for a 20GB HHD? Like I said...I think MS just screwed up any
chance they have to catch Sony this generation.

> sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more

Considering no one knows what the PS3 will cost, I'd say you're lying.
 
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Everyone doesn't have a head-set capable of working with the 360 or HD
cables capable of working with the 360. Custom plugs with every
machine, remember? Plus, consider the actual retail of what these bits
and pieces sell for...

console - $300
a wireless controller - $35
20GB detachable hard drive - $100
headset - $30
component HD audio-visual cables - $30
Ethernet cable - $20 (remember, we're looking at OEM retail prices...
yes, ethernet cables are dirt cheap, but the "Xbox Connect" cable, a
standard cross-over, retails for $20.)
Xbox 360 media remote - $30

So if you were to buy the "cheap" version and the OEM packs of
everything in the bundle, it would run you $545. You actually save $145
by going with the more expensive package.

- Jordan
 
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MS#1Fanboy-JoJo wrote:
> In article <1124291198.829995.44520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> holleyrp@delanet.com says...
> >
> >
> >steven wrote:
> >> cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and headset
> >> and HD cables
> >
> >No way?!?!?! You get a wireless controller instead of a wired one?
> >Wow, where do I sign up?
> >
> >Let's add this up. An upgrade of a wired to wireless is about....say
> >$10. And a headset? Everyone already has one, so scratch that. A
> >media remote? Useless. HD cables? Everyone already has them. Unless
> >MS isn't going to follow along the line of Sony and Nintendo and *not*
> >make the previous audio/video cables compatable with their newer
> >system. I mean Microsoft wouldn't stoop to something like that would
> >they?
> >
> >So anyway, let me correct myself. So they are asking folks to pay $100
> >more for a 20GB HHD? Like I said...I think MS just screwed up any
> >chance they have to catch Sony this generation.
> >
> >> sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more
> >
> >Considering no one knows what the PS3 will cost, I'd say you're lying.
> >
>
> Sounds like a good deal to me.

I wouldn't think anything else, coming from MS#1Fanboy.

> A good wireless controller will cost more than
> $10 to upgrade.

I'm not so sure. Wavebird are only $30 and they work flawlessly and
they are only $10 more than the wired ones.

> The hard drive is a detachable unit.

So what?

> If you dont have the hard
> drive then you will have to pony up for a memory card.

That's what some of my point was. Why was the HHD included with the
$300 Xbox, but now it's not included on the Xbox 360?

> The HD cable will
> likely be Xbox360 exclusive so that will save you $20 to $30.

That's some of my point as well...why is it exclusive? Sony and
Nintendo allowed me to use my old N64 and PSX cables on my GC and PS2
respectively.

> The headset will
> have the cool new look(just gotta have it).

And that justifies its high price, cause it's cool looking?

> The remote is useless? I use the
> piss out of my PS2 remote. I for one will be coming to the counter with $400
> on launch day!

That's cause you're a lemming.
 
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>I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>generation.

Uh huh. Because the PS2 and PS3 *come* with cheap hard drives, right?

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Note to Holley:

Most people won't buy a hard drive for the XBox. Astonishing as it
sounds.

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Jonah Falcon wrote:
> >I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
> >generation.
>
> Uh huh. Because the PS2 and PS3 *come* with cheap hard drives, right?

Boy, you are dumb.

The standard HDD was one advantage MS had over the competition. It's
something they could have again used as a selling point this fall to
close the 60 million unit gap on Sony.

They were launching first, they were rumored to be cheaper than the
PS3, and they were rumored to include a HDD. Now the only advantage
they have on Sony is launching first. Big whoop.

Since I don't own MS stock, I couldn't care less what place they end up
this generation but as a consumer I find Microsoft to be price gouging
this time around.

The Xbox 360 has too many sequels of games I like (PGR3, Edler Scrolls
IV, Perfect Dark Zero), so I wil eventually get one. But not at $400.
 
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Ouch. $400 for the HDD system? So they are asking folks to pay $100
more for a 20GB HHD?

I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
generation.


I thought the biggest plus to console gaming was one hardware standard. So
does this mean developers will just assume *no* hard drive?
 
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>I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>generation.

No doubt!
 
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In article <1124291198.829995.44520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
holleyrp@delanet.com says...
>
>
>steven wrote:
>> cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and headset
>> and HD cables
>
>No way?!?!?! You get a wireless controller instead of a wired one?
>Wow, where do I sign up?
>
>Let's add this up. An upgrade of a wired to wireless is about....say
>$10. And a headset? Everyone already has one, so scratch that. A
>media remote? Useless. HD cables? Everyone already has them. Unless
>MS isn't going to follow along the line of Sony and Nintendo and *not*
>make the previous audio/video cables compatable with their newer
>system. I mean Microsoft wouldn't stoop to something like that would
>they?
>
>So anyway, let me correct myself. So they are asking folks to pay $100
>more for a 20GB HHD? Like I said...I think MS just screwed up any
>chance they have to catch Sony this generation.
>
>> sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more
>
>Considering no one knows what the PS3 will cost, I'd say you're lying.
>

Sounds like a good deal to me. A good wireless controller will cost more than
$10 to upgrade. The hard drive is a detachable unit. If you dont have the hard
drive then you will have to pony up for a memory card. The HD cable will
likely be Xbox360 exclusive so that will save you $20 to $30. The headset will
have the cool new look(just gotta have it). The remote is useless? I use the
piss out of my PS2 remote. I for one will be coming to the counter with $400
on launch day!
 
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cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and headset
and HD cables

sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more

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Hillybilly J. Duncequeer wrote:
> GC 2005: Xbox 360 Pricing Revealed
>
> August 17, 2005 - Today at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany,
> Microsoft unveiled the price of their upcoming next-generation system.
>
> The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded model,
> and will carry two separate price points.
>
> The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States,
> ?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the
> console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable and
> an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership allows
> you to create a user id, download game content, access the Xbox 360
> marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with friends. It
> does not, however, allow users to play games online. To do this, Silver
> members must upgrade to a Gold membership.
>
> The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United
> States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come complete
> with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable hard drive,
> a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables, an Ethernet
> cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited time (most likely
> only though the end of 2005), an Xbox 360 media remote.
>
> The Xbox 360 will launch in North America, Europe and Japan this
> holiday season. Expect to hear more about the Japanese launch and
> pricing at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, which takes place in
> mid-September.
>
>
> <http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html>

Ouch. $400 for the HDD system? So they are asking folks to pay $100
more for a 20GB HHD?

I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
generation.
 
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no not lying, as far as the head sony guy says the PS3 will be expensive.
Its all down to personal preference but I think that £279/$399 for the
console is a great deal, i for one already have mine preordered and im sure
it will be a massive hit when its released.


"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
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>
> steven wrote:
>> cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and headset
>> and HD cables
>
> No way?!?!?! You get a wireless controller instead of a wired one?
> Wow, where do I sign up?
>
> Let's add this up. An upgrade of a wired to wireless is about....say
> $10. And a headset? Everyone already has one, so scratch that. A
> media remote? Useless. HD cables? Everyone already has them. Unless
> MS isn't going to follow along the line of Sony and Nintendo and *not*
> make the previous audio/video cables compatable with their newer
> system. I mean Microsoft wouldn't stoop to something like that would
> they?
>
> So anyway, let me correct myself. So they are asking folks to pay $100
> more for a 20GB HHD? Like I said...I think MS just screwed up any
> chance they have to catch Sony this generation.
>
>> sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more
>
> Considering no one knows what the PS3 will cost, I'd say you're lying.
>
 
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In article <1124293033.086400.314700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
holleyrp@delanet.com says...
>
>
>MS#1Fanboy-JoJo wrote:
>> In article <1124291198.829995.44520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> holleyrp@delanet.com says...
>> >
>> >
>> >steven wrote:
>> >> cant you read?? you also get a wireless controller and remote and
headset
>> >> and HD cables
>> >
>> >No way?!?!?! You get a wireless controller instead of a wired one?
>> >Wow, where do I sign up?
>> >
>> >Let's add this up. An upgrade of a wired to wireless is about....say
>> >$10. And a headset? Everyone already has one, so scratch that. A
>> >media remote? Useless. HD cables? Everyone already has them. Unless
>> >MS isn't going to follow along the line of Sony and Nintendo and *not*
>> >make the previous audio/video cables compatable with their newer
>> >system. I mean Microsoft wouldn't stoop to something like that would
>> >they?
>> >
>> >So anyway, let me correct myself. So they are asking folks to pay $100
>> >more for a 20GB HHD? Like I said...I think MS just screwed up any
>> >chance they have to catch Sony this generation.
>> >
>> >> sounds like a great deal to me, considering the PS3 will cost alot more
>> >
>> >Considering no one knows what the PS3 will cost, I'd say you're lying.
>> >
>>
>> Sounds like a good deal to me.
>
>I wouldn't think anything else, coming from MS#1Fanboy.
>
Hell I'm a fanboy of any new consoles. I will be buying a PS3 at whatever
price point they decide for that.

>> A good wireless controller will cost more than
>> $10 to upgrade.
>
>I'm not so sure. Wavebird are only $30 and they work flawlessly and
>they are only $10 more than the wired ones.
>
Thats true but the Cube controllers are a little light compared to the current
Xbox controllers. Look at the Logitech wireless on the Xbox. I think they are
running about $20 more than a regular controller...maybe even more.

>> The hard drive is a detachable unit.
>
>So what?
>
Take it to a friends house without having to lug around the whole unit.

>> If you dont have the hard
>> drive then you will have to pony up for a memory card.
>
>That's what some of my point was. Why was the HHD included with the
>$300 Xbox, but now it's not included on the Xbox 360?
>
Remember they lost a truckload on the Xbox at $300. I would rather them make a
little money this time around so that they stay in the business.

>> The HD cable will
>> likely be Xbox360 exclusive so that will save you $20 to $30.
>
>That's some of my point as well...why is it exclusive? Sony and
>Nintendo allowed me to use my old N64 and PSX cables on my GC and PS2
>respectively.
>
The progressive cable for the Cube could only be bought directly from
Nintendo's website which was a pain in the ass. I agree that it would be nice
but from their standpoint they would rather everybody have to buy new cables.

>> The headset will
>> have the cool new look(just gotta have it).
>
>And that justifies its high price, cause it's cool looking?
>
I say the package as a whole justifies it.

>> The remote is useless? I use the
>> piss out of my PS2 remote. I for one will be coming to the counter with
$400
>> on launch day!
>
>That's cause you're a lemming.
>

Could you please direct me to the lemming line when it starts forming?
 
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Hillybilly J. Duncequeer wrote:
> GC 2005: Xbox 360 Pricing Revealed
>
> August 17, 2005 - Today at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany,
> Microsoft unveiled the price of their upcoming next-generation system.
>
> The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded
> model, and will carry two separate price points.
>
> The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States,
> ?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the
> console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable
> and an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership
> allows you to create a user id, download game content, access the
> Xbox 360 marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with
> friends. It does not, however, allow users to play games online. To
> do this, Silver members must upgrade to a Gold membership.
>
> The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United
> States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come
> complete with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable
> hard drive, a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables,
> an Ethernet cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited
> time (most likely only though the end of 2005), an Xbox 360 media
> remote.
>
> The Xbox 360 will launch in North America, Europe and Japan this
> holiday season. Expect to hear more about the Japanese launch and
> pricing at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, which takes place in
> mid-September.
>
>
> http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html

well on this link... http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10877
they say that the 360 silver live service is not included with the cheap
core system.
 
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"Beck" <my_bulkmail@btopenworld.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hillybilly J. Duncequeer wrote:
>> GC 2005: Xbox 360 Pricing Revealed
>>
>> August 17, 2005 - Today at the Games Convention in Leipzig, Germany,
>> Microsoft unveiled the price of their upcoming next-generation system.
>>
>> The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded
>> model, and will carry two separate price points.
>>
>> The Xbox 360 core system -- priced at $299.99 in the United States,
>> ?299.99 in Europe and £209.99 in the U.K. -- will come with the
>> console, a wired controller, faceplate, standard audio-visual cable
>> and an Xbox Live Silver membership. An Xbox Live Silver membership
>> allows you to create a user id, download game content, access the
>> Xbox 360 marketplace and gives Live users the ability to chat with
>> friends. It does not, however, allow users to play games online. To
>> do this, Silver members must upgrade to a Gold membership.
>>
>> The Xbox 360 fully-loaded system -- priced at $399.99 in the United
>> States, ?399.99 in Europe and £279.99 in the U.K. -- will come
>> complete with the console, a wireless controller, a 20GB detachable
>> hard drive, a faceplate, headset, component HD audio-visual cables,
>> an Ethernet cable, Xbox Live Silver membership and, for a limited
>> time (most likely only though the end of 2005), an Xbox 360 media
>> remote.
>>
>> The Xbox 360 will launch in North America, Europe and Japan this
>> holiday season. Expect to hear more about the Japanese launch and
>> pricing at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, which takes place in
>> mid-September.
>>
>>
>> http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642656p1.html
>
> well on this link...
> http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10877
> they say that the 360 silver live service is not included with the cheap
> core system.
>

I am pretty positive that the bogus-ass silver live service is free to
everyone so that is not an issue.
 
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In article <mridnaKIfdH54Z7eRVn-iA@suscom.com>, boodybandit@hotmail.com
says...
>
>
>"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
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>
>>I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>>generation.
>
>No doubt!
>
>

Yeah it sure killed Sony putting out a $100 hard drive and three or four
versions of the PS2 console.
 
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> In article <mridnaKIfdH54Z7eRVn-iA@suscom.com>, boodybandit@hotmail.com
> says...
>>
>>
>>"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
>>news:1124289262.827615.77800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>>>generation.
>>
>>No doubt!
>>
>>
>
> Yeah it sure killed Sony putting out a $100 hard drive and three or four
> versions of the PS2 console.
>

But that was well after the PS2 was launched and it was sold as a bundle
with a game. I don't think it would have turned out the same had they tried
to sell 2 different PS2's. That is why they had to phase out the not
online-ready PS2's before selling the slim version.
 
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"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Jonah Falcon wrote:
>> >I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>> >generation.
>>
>> Uh huh. Because the PS2 and PS3 *come* with cheap hard drives, right?
>
> Boy, you are dumb.
>
> The standard HDD was one advantage MS had over the competition.

.... Sure...in this generation that's the only advantage MSFT had initially,
hardware. They certainly didn't have an advantage when it game to game
library or timing of release. Now the Xbox 360 enjoys the advantage of
being released world wide atleast 6 months ahead of the
competiton(ultimately larger next gen game library). A superior online
gaming service. Interoperabitliy with Windows XP, Media Center, and a host
of other USB connected devices.

>It's
> something they could have again used as a selling point this fall to
> close the 60 million unit gap on Sony.

Does it even matter how many PS2's Sony sells this fall? Does it matter how
many standard Xbox's Microsoft sells this fall? This generation is virtually
over...Sony has the top spot in market share. No one is debating whether
they should buy a PS2/Xbox or an Xbox 360 this holiday season. People are
debating whether to buy an Xbox 360, hold out for the PS3 or buy both? The
race is now who can establish dominance in the next generation (PS3, Xbox
360, and maybe even Revolution). The HDD doesn't even factor into the
equation. Casual consumers don't know the Xbox has a HDD or that the PS2
doesn't have HDD. I'd be willing to bet most consumers don't know what a
HDD is to begin with.

>
> They were launching first, they were rumored to be cheaper than the
> PS3, and they were rumored to include a HDD. Now the only advantage
> they have on Sony is launching first. Big whoop.
>

and if that was the only advantage Microsoft had it still would be a
considerable advantage. It's amazing that its not the only advantage.

> Since I don't own MS stock, I couldn't care less what place they end up
> this generation but as a consumer I find Microsoft to be price gouging
> this time around.
>

Price gouging? LOL. I'd like to see you find a device with a powerful 3
core CPU, powerful GPU, Ethernet ready for less than $299. I'd like to see
you find that same device, with a custom removable 20 gig hard drive,
remote, wireless controller, etc for less than $399.

> The Xbox 360 has too many sequels of games I like (PGR3, Edler Scrolls
> IV, Perfect Dark Zero), so I wil eventually get one. But not at $400.
>

Opinions and wallets vary. There are too many great games not to get an
Xbox 360 at $400. I'm sure *atleast* 2 million other people will have
agreed with me by years end.
 
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> "Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
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>> Jonah Falcon wrote:
>>> >I think MS just screwed up any chance they have to catch Sony this
>>> >generation.
>>>
>>> Uh huh. Because the PS2 and PS3 *come* with cheap hard drives, right?
>>
>> Boy, you are dumb.
>>
>> The standard HDD was one advantage MS had over the competition.
>
> ... Sure...in this generation that's the only advantage MSFT had
> initially, hardware. They certainly didn't have an advantage when it game
> to game library or timing of release. Now the Xbox 360 enjoys the
> advantage of being released world wide atleast 6 months ahead of the
> competiton(ultimately larger next gen game library). A superior online
> gaming service. Interoperabitliy with Windows XP, Media Center, and a
> host of other USB connected devices.
>
>>It's
>> something they could have again used as a selling point this fall to
>> close the 60 million unit gap on Sony.
>
> Does it even matter how many PS2's Sony sells this fall? Does it matter
> how many standard Xbox's Microsoft sells this fall? This generation is
> virtually over...Sony has the top spot in market share. No one is
> debating whether they should buy a PS2/Xbox or an Xbox 360 this holiday
> season. People are debating whether to buy an Xbox 360, hold out for the
> PS3 or buy both? The race is now who can establish dominance in the next
> generation (PS3, Xbox 360, and maybe even Revolution). The HDD doesn't
> even factor into the equation. Casual consumers don't know the Xbox has a
> HDD or that the PS2 doesn't have HDD. I'd be willing to bet most
> consumers don't know what a HDD is to begin with.
>
>>
>> They were launching first, they were rumored to be cheaper than the
>> PS3, and they were rumored to include a HDD. Now the only advantage
>> they have on Sony is launching first. Big whoop.
>>
>
> and if that was the only advantage Microsoft had it still would be a
> considerable advantage. It's amazing that its not the only advantage.
>
>> Since I don't own MS stock, I couldn't care less what place they end up
>> this generation but as a consumer I find Microsoft to be price gouging
>> this time around.
>>
>
> Price gouging? LOL. I'd like to see you find a device with a powerful 3
> core CPU, powerful GPU, Ethernet ready for less than $299. I'd like to see
> you find that same device, with a custom removable 20 gig hard drive,
> remote, wireless controller, etc for less than $399.
>
>> The Xbox 360 has too many sequels of games I like (PGR3, Edler Scrolls
>> IV, Perfect Dark Zero), so I wil eventually get one. But not at $400.
>>
>
> Opinions and wallets vary. There are too many great games not to get an
> Xbox 360 at $400. I'm sure *atleast* 2 million other people will have
> agreed with me by years end.
>

You think they will sell 2 million this year? No way.
 
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Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ethernet cable - $20 (remember, we're looking at OEM retail prices...
> yes, ethernet cables are dirt cheap, but the "Xbox Connect" cable, a
> standard cross-over, retails for $20.)

That better be at least a 20 foot cable for $20...
 
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Hillybilly J. Duncequeer wrote:

> The new 'box will come in two flavors, a core and a fully-loaded
> model, and will carry two separate price points.

Man. What a bad idea. Even if the underlying logic sort of makes sense --
people who don't need the bells and whistles don't need to pay for them --
the fact that the HDD won't be standard is a major bummer, and ditto for
having to pay extra for it and the wireless controller. The remote's a nice
addition tho.

I really, really, really hope that developers take the time to code for HDD
caching on machines that have one present. Otherwise the HDD just became a
pricey add-on that's only useful for media storage.

MS just bought themselves some bad PR with this. Hope they're ready for the
backlash.

-Z-
 
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