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May 23, 2012 1:48:13 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month

Budget Range: $1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Photo and Video editing, Surfing the Internet, Watching Movies.

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whichever has the best price/deal.

Country: United States

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, none on anything else

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe once the budget permits

Monitor Resolution: Current Monitor is 1680 x 1050 but I plan on upgrading to a 1920 x 1080 ASAP

Additional Comments: None just looking for advice also note that this will be my first build but hopefully not my last



Quick List: All Parts listed on Newegg

*Removed full list due to constant updates to list

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May 23, 2012 1:57:21 PM

Liking most of the build but if gaming is a priority then a 6850 might not be up to par, it will be fine with everything currently but in a little bit of time it could start to lag behind, a safe bet would be to consider spending a little more on graphics (getting something in the 7xxx range or a GTX670) and maybe getting an i7-2500k or perhaps a cheaper motherboard, although your current choice is solid.
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May 23, 2012 2:23:45 PM

I would go with i7 as well, much better for video editing than i5. And get something less expensive for mobo unless you really need wifi, which you can get it separately and a better way since you can only use ASUS wifi with that mobo only.

16gb of RAM would be good for video editing, but not really a requirement.
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May 23, 2012 2:23:48 PM

Any specific GPU from the 7xxx line? I think I might take your advice on 2nd gen i7 as the only real difference is the on-board GPU and I won't be using that anyway . As for the Motherboard I like the extras Asus includes on it's boards but I'm open to suggestions.
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May 23, 2012 2:28:50 PM

With your budget, a Radeon 7970 or at least a 7950 isn't out of the question for your graphics. A few changes that I would make is switching out the Intel SSD for a Vertex 4 SSD which is much faster in every way, several times faster in random read/write throughput (just make sure it's updated to the most recent firmware, the new firmware increases performance incredibly), getting a cheaper motherboard, getting 16GB of RAM (it's not required, but if you compare 8GB to 16GB for media editing of pretty much any kind, you'd be sorry if you got 8GB), and switching out the Cooler Master 212 Plus for the Cooler Master 212 Evo (same cooling potential, but a little quieter and only a little more expensive). Also, like others have said, an i7 would help with media editing performance, but not with gaming.
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May 23, 2012 2:45:02 PM

When having a similar thread for my build, I was told to not use RAM with the voltage 1.65V on a socket 1155 build. I was advised to use 1.5V RAM, so I went with a pair of Corsair Vengeance 4GB sticks (total 8GB).

Not too sure about this, so would be nice if someone could confirm me.
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May 23, 2012 2:58:21 PM

nafoni said:
When having a similar thread for my build, I was told to not use RAM with the voltage 1.65V on a socket 1155 build. I was advised to use 1.5V RAM, so I went with a pair of Corsair Vengeance 4GB sticks (total 8GB).

Not too sure about this, so would be nice if someone could confirm me.


Yes, 1.5v RAM is preferable for stability and longevity in Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge based computers.
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May 23, 2012 3:08:28 PM

Updated Main Post. So change RAM? If so suggestions on low profile RAM.
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May 23, 2012 3:32:14 PM

Ok, not to be rude but please stop suggesting SSDs
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May 23, 2012 3:32:43 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

These are all good choices. Remember, when buying RAM, it's best to have all modules in a single kit for maximized chances of compatibility. When you buy them all in a single kit, you are given a guarantee that it will work or the manufacturer will solve the problem in some other way (free replacement or refund being common). You don't always have this guarantee with two dual module kits like you do with a single quad module kit.
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May 23, 2012 3:39:02 PM

Any more motherboard suggestions?
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May 23, 2012 4:15:47 PM

Current setup comes in at a little under $1400. Should I upgrade something else or spend the extra $100 on accessories.
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May 23, 2012 4:22:03 PM

Never hurts to add the extra to your GPU.

Ps, i cant see what your current list is now, passwords needed?
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May 23, 2012 4:38:29 PM

Try it now. Also wondering if using the intel SSD as a Data drive with the velocity as primary would good setup and just drop the HDD out for now, I currently only use around 100GB of my laptops memory. I also have a 500GB External HDD that use to back up my laptop so I could use it for additional storage
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May 23, 2012 4:50:15 PM

Nope still cant see it.
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May 23, 2012 4:58:30 PM

SirCJ said:
I checked and the address matches and it is set to public not sure what the problem is. Here is the link again not that its any different from the top one. https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...


Give us the links for each individual item on the list. That should work around any problems that it is having with making the list public.
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May 23, 2012 5:10:47 PM

List as of this moment subject to change

Case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD1 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD2* : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD* : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heatsink : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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SirCJ said:
Try it now. Also wondering if using the intel SSD as a Data drive with the velocity as primary would good setup and just drop the HDD out for now, I currently only use around 100GB of my laptops memory. I also have a 500GB External HDD that use to back up my laptop so I could use it for additional storage

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May 23, 2012 5:18:43 PM

Okay, now it's working for me.
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May 23, 2012 5:37:48 PM

Ok it looks a great build, if you still have that $100 in your budget then i highly recommend this card from Asus i have the 580 version and it runs very cool and quiet whilst being powerfull.

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May 23, 2012 6:04:39 PM



Or, OP can get a GTX 570 2560MB for about the same price (1280MB is NOT enough anymore, especially for GPGPU work and 1080p gaming in some games)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Radeon 7870 is also ahead of the GTX 570 for compute performance, has more memory, is faster for gaming, and uses less power, all for the same price range:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Seriously, there is no good reason to buy a 570 over the 7870 unless you're a Nvidia fan and even then, the 2560MB version is practically a requirement nowadays, especially for GPGPU media work.
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May 23, 2012 6:19:18 PM

Ok I think its final other than storage. About which my question was never answered. Also I can probably get windows for $30 with the student discount I'll be eligible for so that will save some more.
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May 23, 2012 6:35:48 PM

Don't PCI-E slots scale down to match the other when in SLI or CrossfireX? Plus it says in the details that it supports CrossfireX. Care to explain that?
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May 23, 2012 6:43:39 PM

SirCJ said:
Beat me to it.


The board that Why_Me doesn't like is not capable of Crossfire or SLI because it's second PCIe slot is a PCIe 2.0 x4 slot connected to the chipset instead of the CPU. That slot is not for graphics cards. The board that I just recommended does not have this problem.
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May 23, 2012 6:47:03 PM

it is simple. If a board has only one pcie slot, it CANNOT SLI/CF.
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May 23, 2012 6:58:12 PM

azeem40 said:
it is simple. If a board has only one pcie slot, it CANNOT SLI/CF.



It wasn't that simple because the board has two PCIe x16 slots. SirCJ didn't know that the second PCIe slot was a chipset PCIe slot that isn't for CF/SLI instead of a CPU PCIe slot for CF/SLI.
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May 23, 2012 7:27:28 PM

SirCJ said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The only thing I don't like how the Sata ports are facing outward rather than towards the drives. But I don't see any more options in this price range.


It's a little inconvenient, but the ports are out of the way enough for even CF/SLI with cards that take up two spaces to not block anything, so it shouldn't be a problem.
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May 23, 2012 7:50:42 PM

lol still cant see it.
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May 23, 2012 8:40:06 PM

I can get into the wishlist now, but it's empty.
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May 23, 2012 9:01:45 PM

GTX 670 2GB, 120GB SATA 3 SSD, 3770K, etc...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 - $69.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING $5 off w/ promo code Corsair52229, limited offer
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-300r-compact-pc-g... <----- another look at that case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $89.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/PC-Power-and-Coo... <----- review of that psu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $216.98 save: $20.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <----- review of that Asrock board with benchmarks

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <----- another look at that board along with a link to the most recent bios update

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $454.98 save: $15.00
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $93.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $17.99
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... $400 FREE SHIPPING
GTX 670

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- GTX 670 review with benchmarks

Total: $1,508.90 *not including shipping (motherboard/optical drive), rebates, and promo codes
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May 23, 2012 9:07:43 PM

Why_Me said:
GTX 670 2GB, 120GB SATA 3 SSD, 3770K, etc...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99 $69.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING $5 off w/ promo code Corsair52229, limited offer
Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

http://www.corsair.com/carbide-series-300r-compact-pc-g... <----- another look at that case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $89.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply

http://www.guru3d.com/news/pc-power-and-cooling-silence... <----- review of that psu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $216.98 save: $20.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <----- review of that Asrock board with benchmarks

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <----- another look at that board along with a link to the most recent bios update

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $454.98 save: $15.00
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $93.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $17.99
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... $400 FREE SHIPPING
GTX 670

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5818/nvidia-geforce-gtx-6... <----- GTX 670 review with benchmarks

Total: $1,508.90 *not including shipping (motherboard/optical drive), rebates, and promo codes



FANTASTIC !!!

THIS ONE GETS MY VOTE ALL THEY WAY
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May 24, 2012 12:45:39 AM

Ok, going with Why_me's build which comes in at 1461.89 after rebates. I also added: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound for the heatsink, Kingwin ATS-W24 Anti-Static Wrist Strap w/ Grounding Wire just to be safe. Also wondering if I should spend the extra $20 for this PSU:XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply brand name plus its modular. Even with this it still comes in at $1533.37 after MIR and that will drop to about $1460.00 if I use my student discount to get windows.

Other than that my only problem now is the fact that the i7-3770k is sold out
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May 24, 2012 12:53:54 AM

SirCJ said:
Ok, going with Why_me's build which comes in at 1461.89 after rebates. I also added: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound for the heatsink, Kingwin ATS-W24 Anti-Static Wrist Strap w/ Grounding Wire just to be safe. Also wondering if I should spend the extra $20 for this PSU:XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply brand name plus its modular. Even with this it still comes in at $1533.37 after MIR and that will drop to about $1460.00 if I use my student discount to get windows.

Other than that my only problem now is the fact that the i7-3770k is sold out

Scratch the Arctic Silver off your list. That CM cooler comes with a small tube of MX-4 thermal compound which is about as good as it gets in regards to thermal compound.

That XFX modular psu makes for a nice clean build (less cables to mess with) otherwise that psu in that build I posted is as every bit as good as that XFX. That Corsair 300R I posted has cable slots that route behind the backside of the motherboard to hide any extra cables you don't use. That and a zip tie and your good to go.
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May 24, 2012 1:06:15 AM

Last thing would it be a good idea to get a fan for the top of the case or will the 2 pre-installed fans be enough?
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May 24, 2012 1:08:57 AM

SirCJ said:
Last thing would it be a good idea to get a fan for the top of the case or will the 2 pre-installed fans be enough?

When you decide to over clock and / or add another vid card then fill it up on fans. Also it has a place to add a 120/140mm side fan I believe that blows on your motherboard.
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May 24, 2012 1:29:33 AM

One more question to do with fans, neither the case or Mobo have fan control for the case fans so do you have any suggestions as to a way to control the case fans so they don't run at full speed 24/7? (this really isn't necessary and will probably not be added right away but I would like to know my options)
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May 24, 2012 1:38:40 AM

SirCJ said:
One more question to do with fans, neither the case or Mobo have fan control for the case fans so do you have any suggestions as to a way to control the case fans so they don't run at full speed 24/7? (this really isn't necessary and will probably not be added right away but I would like to know my options)

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
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May 24, 2012 3:12:33 AM

Should I return the 180GB Intel SSD (it was only $139.99(less than a $1 a GB) after the MIR and definitely the best deal on a SSD I've seen) I got yesterday or keep it and drop the HDD? As I mentioned earlier i only have about 100 GB worth of stuff on my laptop (OS included) so the 120GB plus 180GB SSDs would be plenty of space along with my 500GB external HDD.
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May 24, 2012 3:17:38 AM

SirCJ said:
Should I return the 180GB Intel SSD (it was only $139.99(less than a $1 a GB) after the MIR and definitely the best deal on a SSD I've seen) I got yesterday or keep it and drop the HDD? As I mentioned earlier i only have about 100 GB worth of stuff on my laptop (OS included) so the 120GB plus 180GB SSDs would be plenty of space along with my 500GB external HDD.


I don't think that you can return something once you use an MIR on it, so it might be a moot point. Besides, why ditch it? Intel's 330s are decent drives and I see no reason to get rid of it.
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May 24, 2012 3:21:46 AM

I haven't applied for the MIR (I just ordered it yesterday to insure I got it in time to get the discount). Also any suggestions on a good 1920 x 1080 with a HDMI port for less then $200 preferably around $150.
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May 24, 2012 7:14:12 AM

HDMI is not needed on a monitor as DVI is the same thing, and monitor speakers suck.
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