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September 14, 2012 7:59:08 AM
September 14, 2012 8:41:52 AM

'I' wouldn't buy any of them.

What is the intended use of the components?

If you are thinking in terms of gaming then the FX-4170. NOT heard good things about Biostar boards so maybe avoid.
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September 14, 2012 8:44:34 AM

are you just being picky? or you really wouldnt buy any?? gaming gw2
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September 14, 2012 8:45:11 AM

and future build so i wont have to upgrade for a while
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September 14, 2012 9:04:16 AM

sorry guys im really not trying to sound as an a hole i just have limits and looking for an amd processor price wise
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September 14, 2012 9:07:19 AM

Well if i went with a amd build i would get 965BE

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September 14, 2012 9:21:57 AM

It's just very hard to recommend something that you wouldn't buy yourself.

I don't think Newegg have them on combo-deal but how about an i3? (Or a non-k i5 if you could squeeze to it.) Even the slowest i3 is rated above the AMD chips:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...
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September 14, 2012 10:13:52 AM

The combo with the FX 4170 is pretty good but you can do even better.Also the GTX 660 Ti is a really bad card for the money.You can get a HD 7950 instead which is faster, more overclockable, more future proof, with better compute performance and also much much better when using MSAA.
This is the cheapest, good HD 7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And this is 20% faster.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Here is the best CPU + Motherboard combo you can do in this price range.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=68355&vpn=BX80623I5238...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008KW62WK/?tag=pcpapi-20

And here is the one you should get if you really want an AMD CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008V9959O/?tag=pcpapi-20

The reason why people advise you to buy a Intel CPU instead of an AMD one is because Intel's archetecture is more efficient.
Intels archetecture is on avarage 50% faster than AMD's FX per clock cycle.This means that a Intel processor clocked at 3 GHZ will be as fast as a AMD FX at 4.5 for single threaded tasks.
That's why even though AMD processors have more cores and those cores are clocked higher they still can't outperform their intel competitors.The only two AMD Processors that have unbeatable value are the AMD Phenom II X4 965 and AMD FX 8120.And they only shine once overclocked.
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September 14, 2012 11:45:47 AM

thank you so much for this information
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September 14, 2012 11:54:41 AM

GTX 660 Ti beating a 7950 at 1920 resolution.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-...

Quote:
"As it stands, AMD’s position correctly reflects their performance; the GTX 660 Ti is a solid and relatively consistent 10-15% faster than the 7870, while the 7950 is anywhere between a bit faster to a bit slower depending on what benchmarks you favor. Of course when talking about the 7950 the “anything but equal” maxim still applies here, if not more so than with the GTX 670. The GTX 660 Ti is anywhere 50% ahead of the 7950 and 25% behind it, and everywhere in between.Coupled with the tight pricing between all of these cards, this makes it very hard to make any kind of meaningful recommendation here for potential buyers. Compared to the 7870 the GTX 660 Ti is a solid buy if you can spare the extra $20, though it’s not going to be a massive difference. The performance difference is going to be just enough that AMD is going to need to trim prices a bit more to secure the 7870’s position."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-... Watch this video






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibuXcStgYF8
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September 14, 2012 7:38:41 PM

another thing with the 660 right now u get borderlands 2 for free i hear good things about both but hear 7950 has a bit more performance in OC i think i will get the 660 im not sure though
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September 14, 2012 7:45:12 PM

Kamen_BG said:
The combo with the FX 4170 is pretty good but you can do even better.Also the GTX 660 Ti is a really bad card for the money.You can get a HD 7950 instead which is faster, more overclockable, more future proof, with better compute performance and also much much better when using MSAA.
This is the cheapest, good HD 7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And this is 20% faster.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Here is the best CPU + Motherboard combo you can do in this price range.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=68355&vpn=BX80623I5238...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008KW62WK/?tag=pcpapi-20

And here is the one you should get if you really want an AMD CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008V9959O/?tag=pcpapi-20

The reason why people advise you to buy a Intel CPU instead of an AMD one is because Intel's archetecture is more efficient.
Intels archetecture is on avarage 50% faster than AMD's FX per clock cycle.This means that a Intel processor clocked at 3 GHZ will be as fast as a AMD FX at 4.5 for single threaded tasks.
That's why even though AMD processors have more cores and those cores are clocked higher they still can't outperform their intel competitors.The only two AMD Processors that have unbeatable value are the AMD Phenom II X4 965 and AMD FX 8120.And they only shine once overclocked.



so i think i will go with the The combo with the FX 4170 sounds most affordable and you said its pretty good?
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September 14, 2012 8:30:18 PM

bigcyco1 said:
Well if i went with a amd build i would get 965BE


I agree with a new build go with a 1155 socket and get a i5 2400k (and im an amd person)
Also the price difference isn't too bad.
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September 15, 2012 8:19:00 PM

so between 965 BE and 8120 what is better?
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September 16, 2012 11:54:55 PM

jaylopez508 said:
so between 965 BE and 8120 what is better?


overall performance?

Rendering and multitasking 8120

Single and double threaded stuff and gaming and overclocking 965be
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September 18, 2012 2:15:32 PM

jaylopez508 said:
hey guys i found a i5 2500K for 159.99

http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K...

is this a deal? and was thinking of the 965 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

willing to spend the extra if the i5 is MUCH better for gaming


I used to have an i5 2400k and that was better than my current 965be but tbh bro you wont see the difference past 60fps in games so if you want so save money but still play bf3 online in ultra get the 965be but if you want something which is just that bit more powerful go with the i5.
Both good cpus you will be very happy with either.
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September 23, 2012 11:55:18 PM

Best answer selected by jaylopez508.
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