First time builder need desperate help on budget gamer build.

[zZ Cory]

Build 1:

L12-1312 OEM ::Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)(0.3 lbs)
$17.99

TSD-500AAKX ::Western Digital WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 500GB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200RPM, 16MB(1.15 lbs)
 $79.99

C19-6131 ::Crucial BLS4G3D1339DS1S00 Ballistix Desktop Memory Module - 4GB, PC3-10600, DDR3-1333MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL9, Non-ECC, Unbuffered(0.2 lbs)
$19.99

A79-1965 ::AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 CPU HDZ965FBGMBOX - 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan(0.95 lbs)
$109.99

A455-3067 ::ASUS M5A97 AMD 9 Series AM3+ Motherboard - ATX, Socket AM3+, AMD 970 Chipset, 2133MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, CrossFireX Ready(2.2 lbs)
$89.99

M17-7302 ::Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64BIT Operating System Software - OEM DVD, English(0.5 lbs)
$99.99

E145-0550 ::EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti FPB Video Card - 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), 2x Dual-Link DVI-I, 1x Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, SLI Ready(1.85 lbs)
$134.99
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

C283-3122 ::Cooler Master RC-430-KWN1 Elite 430 Mid Tower ATX Case - ATX/Micro-ATX, USB, Audio, 120mm Blue LED Fan, Black(12.8 lbs)
 $49.99

ULT-LSP550 ::Ultra LSP550 550-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan
$49.99
Subtotal:652.91
Total with shipping:$694.39

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Build 2:

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$17.99

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
$49.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$74.99

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$84.99

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity ...
$149.99

AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon - OEM
$0.00

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W Continuous @40°C,80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "
$59.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
$29.99

AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
$109.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-OEM
$99.99
subtotal: 677,91
Total with shipping: about $765
Shipping prices are so high I would assume bc I live in Alaska.
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I will need help. I'm new to this stuff and I'm on a tight budget. I was thinking the first build because I'm on such a tight budget. I really only want to play WoW and maybe D3 on med-high graphics with high fps and no lagg. I was told the first build give mor bang for its buck, is this true? Also, are the parts compatible and is there anything that can be downgraded that will lower price but not gameplay too much(or upgraded for that matter). I would also do upgrades in the future but ATM I'm a 17 year old senior in highschool with no job because of traveling and sport scheduling problems. I'm not looking to play B3 on ultra settings, I don't know why every time I post a thread someone assumes I want to even though I say Wow and D3 only on high settings lol. Any constructive critism is welcome.



 

 

[azeem40]

Build two is better, but no need for a 600W PSU. Get a 500W PSU.

 

[AdrianPerry]

Yeah build 2 looks a better build to me too. The FX-4100 paired with the 6850 hit's a great sweet spot and is level performance with an i3-2100.

As azeem40 said, 630w PSU isn't needed. 450w would be enough for that build, 500w possibly "recommended". XFX 450w Bronze or 500w Corsair Builder are possibly your best options - depending on their prices of course.

$60, $40 after rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&cm_sp=Cat_Power_Supplies-_-Spotlight-_-17-139-027

Would also recommend a cheaper motherboard in order to keep costs down.

$60 ASUS AM3+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795

 

[zZ Cory]

Build two is better, but no need for a 600W PSU. Get a 500W PSU.

Can you explain why it's better? Here's my logics: since build 2's parts cost more than build 1's,build 2 is better.
I just want a computer that fits my gaming preferences listed above. Would build 1 fit those preferences? I could always upgrade later on. Thanks for the reply though.

 

[azeem40]

Build two has a good processor and GPU. Since the first build has a weak GPU, it is worse for gaming.

 

[zZ Cory]

I think what's really killing me is the $88 shipping newegg has compare to the $41 shipping tigerdirect has. Thanks for the replays. I'm going to see if I can do build 2 on tigerdirect instead to make it cheaper.

 

[AdrianPerry]

CPU and GPU are your main components. This is where almost all of the performance will come from. FX-4100 paired with a 6850 is a great little budget combination that's often over-looked. The FX is a newer CPU, Quad Core, and nicely over-clockable (should you wish to).

 

[zZ Cory]

CPU and GPU are your main components. This is where almost all of the performance will come from. FX-4100 paired with a 6850 is a great little budget combination that's often over-looked. The FX is a newer CPU, Quad Core, and nicely over-clockable (should you wish to).

After taking in some of yours and other suggestions I came to this system:
M17-7302 ::Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64BIT Operating System Software - OEM DVD, English(0.5 lbs)
$99.99

TSD-500AAKX ::Western Digital WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 500GB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200RPM, 16MB(1.15 lbs)
$79.99

A79-4100 ::AMD FD4100WMGUSBX FX-4100 Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 2MB L2 Cache, 3.60GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket AM3+, 95W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail(1.55 lbs) 
$119.99

A455-3150 ::ASUS P5G41T-M LX PLUS Intel G41 Motherboard - Micro ATX, Intel G41 Express, Socket LGA775, 1333MHZ DDR3 (O.C.), SATA II (3.0Gb/s), 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0(1.15 lbs)
$59.99

T13-1113 ::Coolmax 500-Watt Modular Power Supply - PCI-E, 120mm Fan(3.9 lbs)
$54.99
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate

P450-6859 ::XFX HD-685X-ZCFC Radeon HD 6850 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.1 (x16), 2x DVI, 2x Mini DisplayPort, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, Eyefinity, CrossFireX Ready(1.22 lbs)
$144.99
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

L12-1312 OEM ::Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)(0.3 lbs)
$17.99

C19-6131 ::Crucial BLS4G3D1339DS1S00 Ballistix Desktop Memory Module - 4GB, PC3-10600, DDR3-1333MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL9, Non-ECC, Unbuffered
$19.99

C283-3122 ::Cooler Master RC-430-KWN1 Elite 430 Mid Tower ATX Case - ATX/Micro-ATX, USB, Audio, 120mm Blue LED Fan, Black(12.8 lbs)

Subtotal :$647.91
Total with shipping:$686.93
Total with shipping and rebates:$ 656.93
IMO this is excellent price for a gaming computer haha
Does this look good to you though and are there any suggestions?

 

[azeem40]

That is a good system!

 

[zZ Cory]

That is a good system!

Thanks a bunch!

 

[AdrianPerry]

No to the PSU. Make sure you get something with an 80PLUS rating.

80PLUS Bronze would be recommended.

Recommended brands include: Corsair, XFX, SeaSonic, Antec, OCZ.

 

[doct3rphil]

Consider a GTX 460 or 560 since Nvidia had done better in WoW pretty much across the board.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135-10.html


Pretty good deals with rebates now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660

 

[zZ Cory]

No to the PSU. Make sure you get something with an 80PLUS rating.

80PLUS Bronze would be recommended.

Recommended brands include: Corsair, XFX, SeaSonic, Antec, OCZ.

Thanks.

 

[azeem40]

Actually, these are recommended brands:
XFX
Corsair TX/HX/AX
Seasonic
OCZ ZS/ZT
CM Silent Pro
Rosewill Green/HIVE/Capstone
Antec Neo/EA

 

[zZ Cory]

Consider a GTX 460 or 560 since Nvidia had done better in WoW pretty much across the board.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135-10.html


Pretty good deals with rebates now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660

Here's the build:


E145-1363 ::EVGA 01G-P3-1363-KR GeForce GTX 460 SC Video Card - 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), 2x Dual-Link DVI-I, 1x Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, SLI Ready(2.05 lbs)
$149.99
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate

C13-2812 ::Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2 Builder Seriesâ„¢ CX500 Power Supply - 500W, 80 Plus, 120mm Fan, Single +12V Rail, Active PFC(4.65 lbs) 
$59.99
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

M17-7302 ::Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64BIT Operating System Software - OEM DVD, English(0.5 lbs)
$99.99

TSD-500AAKX ::Western Digital WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 500GB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200RPM, 16MB(1.15 lbs)
$79.99

A79-4100 ::AMD FD4100WMGUSBX FX-4100 Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 2MB L2 Cache, 3.60GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket AM3+, 95W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail(1.55 lbs)
$119.99

A455-3150 ::ASUS P5G41T-M LX PLUS Intel G41 Motherboard - Micro ATX, Intel G41 Express, Socket LGA775, 1333MHZ DDR3 (O.C.), SATA II (3.0Gb/s), 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 2.0(1.15 lbs) 
$59.99

L12-1312 OEM ::Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)(0.3 lbs)
$17.99

C19-6131 ::Crucial BLS4G3D1339DS1S00 Ballistix Desktop Memory Module - 4GB, PC3-10600, DDR3-1333MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL9, Non-ECC, Unbuffered(0.2 lbs)
$19.99

C283-3122 ::Cooler Master RC-430-KWN1 Elite 430 Mid Tower ATX Case - ATX/Micro-ATX, USB, Audio, 120mm Blue LED Fan, Black(12.8 lbs)
$49.99
Subtotal:657.91
Total with shipping:$699.39
Total with shipping and rebates:$654.39

Does this look good for a budget computer?
Anymore suggestions?

 

[doct3rphil]

Looks good except you have a CPU mobo mismatch, either pick an:

Intel Pentium G860 or i3 2120 to go with a socket 1155 mobo
or
grab a socet AM3+ motherboard for that AMD FX 4100