pc150?

[Guest]

What would be the advatages of running pc150 ram? Can i run this at 133 if i have to? motherboard = iwill kk266-r

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[killall]

sdram being pc150 means that it is guaranteed to run at that clock speed... you can underclock it without any risk or overclock it with risk... if you want to run at 133 id advise some pc133 cas2 ram or pc150 cas3 that can run at 133 cas2

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[ejsmith2]

An Athlon @ 149 FSB (good luck getting 150) will outperform the same system at 133 FSB, if you keep the processor clock the same (using the multiplier). But the biggest difference is with your pci/isa/agp devices. You will be overclocking them as well, and more often than not, get better response from them as long as they remain stable.

Soooooooo, that PC-150 most definately will run well at 146 FSB. PC-133 might not, unless it's 'high quality' PC-133 (micron, kingmax, tiny, etc...).

 

[lhgpoobaa]

i was smart enough to buy PC150 kingmax
and lucky enough to get an unlocked processor. factory new!
end result...
instead of 9.0 x 133 = 1200
im using 8.0 x 150 = 1200
and at Cas 2 as well. a definate performance jump, especially with memory intensive applications like GAMES or seti@home

My Hamster has 512MB of SDRAM @ 150Mhz CAS 2!

 

[ajmcgarry]

Depending on the motherboard you do not necessarily overclock the PCI\AGP proportionate to the FSB. Abits newer board for example allow idependant clocking on them all.



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[ejsmith2]

This one's new on me. So does it give you a bunch of choices for the multiplier, or can you actually set the clock speed?

 

[lhgpoobaa]

damn... looks like i got the wrong board then (asus a7v133)
*boo hoo hoo*
lol
that would be nice, but i think i can only get another 10mhz out of it.


My Hamster has 512MB of SDRAM @ 150Mhz CAS 2!

 

[ajmcgarry]

Hmmm, can't find the link about the Abit boards but here is one for the <A HREF="http://www.targetpc.com/hardware/motherboards/soyo_7vba_133/" target="_new">Soyo 7VBA+</A>, which is a crap board, but the principle applies.


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[Porkloin]

instead of 9.0 x 133 = 1200
im using 8.0 x 150 = 1200


There's an interesting twist. I'll have to try that out!

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[lhgpoobaa]

Yup. the product of some smart thinking and good fortune.
at the store i made the decision never to have swap file thrashing again.
EVER.
so it was two sticks of Kingmax pc150.
it can actually do PC160 @ cas 2, but my pci devices croak
150 @ cas 2 is very stable though.
one must have a unlocked multiplier though...
or so i thought.
last night i got my system stable at
9.0 x 150 = 1350.
it required a voltage jump to 1.80V, and the full load temp is now 56 or so.
up 3-4 deg.
so in reality i didnt require an unlocked processor.
but its nice to have all the same.
and yes, them boost in memory does have a significant effect.
specially on mem benchmarks, unrealtournament and seti@home.

Have you read TOMS reviews on his various 150 & 166 overclocking attempts?
Hamster now signing off *pawprint*

My Hamster has 512MB of SDRAM @ 150Mhz CAS 2!

 

[Guest]

Thanks everyone. I got kinmax pc150 and iwill kk266-r. Does anyone know if there is a fix for the problem of win 98 only suporting 512mb of ram or a planed fix if not i guess i`m stuck at 512.

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[lhgpoobaa]

*thinkies*
i believe that 512mb "issue" with windows 98 is more of a design flaw than a bug... and i dont think there is a work around, it just IS.
byproduct of the way the operating system was designed maybe?

anyhow... unless you use your pc for an insane number of apps you wont require anything beyond 512mb.
hell, im running unrealtournament with a 256mb cache, word, excell, seti, and 4 chat programs, iexplore and i still havnt hit 2/3 of memory occupied.


My Hamster has 512MB of SDRAM @ 150Mhz CAS 2!

 

[Guest]

I will be runing sonar, gigasampler, reason, many audio efects plug-in's and sotf synths at the same time. I really don't know yet if i will need any more memory all my parts are not here yet. and i`m only starting with 256 anyway. well i`ll just have to see after i get my system up.

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[lhgpoobaa]

i personally think you would be better going for win2k for all that stuff.
1. its arguably more stable
2. can handle over 512mb if required
and
3. it manages the memory you have far better than win 98 in my experience, even though windows itself takes up a bit more. 80 to 100mb for me with win2k, and assorted background utilities.



My Hamster has 512MB of SDRAM @ 150Mhz CAS 2!

 

[Guest]

Do you know of a good source for explaining how to set up a dual boot system. I think i would like to try that. Some of the hardware and sotfware i would be running are not supported in 2000, So if i could have the best of both worlds that would be cool. Hard drive space should not be a ploblem i will have to 7200 40g hd's in raid 0. I wonder if you could say, record a file on your{non win 2000 compatible sound card} in win 98 and than process it in win 2000? I don`t know if the file systems are compatible.

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[Porkloin]

Shove the 2000 disk in and do a clean install and you have a dual-boot system. Leave the format of the drive as is (don't do NTFS). If you want to partition, which is preferable, but not required, you'll need to get one of those third-party patition-on-the-fly utilities, like Partition Magic.
Personally, I'd do a clean install along with the 98 on the "C" drive, learn the ins and outs of dualbooting and Win2K, then come back in with F-Disk, create two or three partitions and reinstall everything all nice.
Now, if you add Linux into the equation with Win2K..........


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