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May 24, 2012 1:20:05 AM

Hello,

I am actually using an HP HDX-16 1375DX notebook to run some games and it's just not good enough.
So I decided to build my own "gaming" PC.
I'm not looking to build a fancy and expensive gaming system. I just want a good for the value gaming PC that can handle diablo 3, StarCraft 2, COD MW3 and upcoming games such as COD Black Ops 2, etc.
I'm not looking for the top gaming hardware, just the basics to play those games in a decent+ video quality without affecting the system performance.

Is that possible?

Of course I would have to build it from the scratch, so I need some help picking the right hardware, case, cooling system, etc.

My budget is about 700$. The less would be the better of course. Am I asking too much?

Oh, I forgot to say that I've always used Intel but I'm open for an AMD system (I've heard its less expensive and as good as Intel)

Can someone give me an advise please?

ps. Sorry for my english, im not from the US.

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May 24, 2012 10:17:56 AM

700$ is a good budget for a new computer.
I would get something like this:
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

In total it's around 700$ and it's a good machine. Of course you can get something cheaper using other components or going for cheaper brands. You can also get a cheaper CPU and Motherboard and not buy the cooler if you're not going to overclock
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May 24, 2012 11:46:23 AM

i3-2130 3.4Ghz 2C/4T for 150$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

hd7850 2GB for 250$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI H61M-P25 (B3) for 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) ddr3 1333mhz/cl7 for 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case for 35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641AS-RK 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" for 70$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU like this COOLER MASTER GX 450W RS450-ACAAD3-US for 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

150+250+60+50+35+70+50= 665$ (without mail in rebate)

after rebate, you can put this in the list (but since you are not from us)
SSD Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC for 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 24, 2012 1:28:02 PM

Since you had a laptop, note that the suggestions people have submitted do not include a monitor /keyboard/mouse which is the common way to recommend builds unless stated specifically. do these components need to be taken into consideration?

Also I've not seen Windows OS which is going to run ~120 depending on the version so $250 would be allocated to those as a best case scenario and suddenly we have a 450$ price tag for components which is a very different setup.
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May 24, 2012 1:47:03 PM

jgutz2006 said:
Since you had a laptop, note that the suggestions people have submitted do not include a monitor /keyboard/mouse which is the common way to recommend builds unless stated specifically. do these components need to be taken into consideration?

Also I've not seen Windows OS which is going to run ~120 depending on the version so $250 would be allocated to those as a best case scenario and suddenly we have a 450$ price tag for components which is a very different setup.


not to mention shipping costs and MIR are not instant rebates. you still pay the full price and wait for a rebate check in 6-8 weeks.
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May 24, 2012 3:07:04 PM

For D3? Keeping budget in mind.

Hearing really good things about the Trinity processor, not sure when the desktop version is due. But an APU with a 400-500 watt PSU, 8GB ram and on a decent mother board and I think you should be able to OC it too blow D3 out of the water and be able to play any game out there at medium settings at the worst. This system could be build on a 400-500 dollar budget.

If your budget is closer to 700-800 the 2500k is a great choice along with a HD 7700s GPU.

If you really only care about D3 you could build something for 300 bucks... but i would recommend going a little further.
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May 24, 2012 3:26:05 PM

I followed up on my post- a desktop with an A8 (unlocked quad core APU), 8GB of Corsair Vengence, 1 TB HD would run you 425 before OS, Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, etc. I you had to purchase the other accesories the total would be 675 or so. But I assume you have a keyboard and mouse, and possibly a monitor. So the basic cost for the build is 525 assuming you need need the OS.

This build will handle anything out there right now (not gonna run BF3 on ultra) you should be able to do Skyrim on high though. And D3 will run great on the highest settings (talking over 70 FPS)
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May 24, 2012 3:42:06 PM

rdaws said:
Hello,

I am actually using an HP HDX-16 1375DX notebook to run some games and it's just not good enough.
So I decided to build my own "gaming" PC.
I'm not looking to build a fancy and expensive gaming system. I just want a good for the value gaming PC that can handle diablo 3, StarCraft 2, COD MW3 and upcoming games such as COD Black Ops 2, etc.
I'm not looking for the top gaming hardware, just the basics to play those games in a decent+ video quality without affecting the system performance.

Is that possible?

Of course I would have to build it from the scratch, so I need some help picking the right hardware, case, cooling system, etc.

My budget is about 700$. The less would be the better of course. Am I asking too much?

Oh, I forgot to say that I've always used Intel but I'm open for an AMD system (I've heard its less expensive and as good as Intel)

Can someone give me an advise please?

ps. Sorry for my english, im not from the US.



What country do you live in.
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May 24, 2012 11:09:20 PM

Thank you all guys!

@akxpckwb and truegenius: Those builds look good! I've been checking other posts and I've seen many ppl saying that i5 2500k is a great deal? I dont know about i3.. is there a huge diference? I've also read about OC CPU and GPU.. but Im completly new to that.. should I consider buying overclckable parts? is that for newbies like me?

About RAM i'd ratter get DDR 1600 than 1333. is it ok? is there a lot of diference?

@jjack339: I definitely want to go further (no that further) because I also would like
playing COD Black Ops 2, Battlefield 3, NeedForSpeed, and that kind of high performance games in the future. (maybe skyrim, dragon age, metro2033)

I'm not asking to play those games in ultra btw. High quality is fine for me with decent FPS (for smooth playing).

@jjack339: Yes! I'm interested in that i5 2500k. I've read its good for the value.
Are AMD builds less expensive? I'm really open to AMD, I actually would
like to try a good AMD system. (but again I'd prefer a bang for the buck
build. no matter its Intel or AMD)

@jgutz2006: Sorry, I forgot to ready forum rules before posting. My bad.
Already got monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.
I've got Windows 7 Ultimate already (is Home edition faster?)
I only need the Case and everything that goes inside it! :) 

@ct1615: about shipping costs. Do you have any idea on what's the cost of
International Shipping on these products?

@WatchOut: Im italian living in Peru.
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May 24, 2012 11:13:45 PM

newegg does not ship to peru. unfortunately I don't know the peru PC market so I can't recommend a web site or shop. perhaps amazon or ebay have some sellers that will ship there but i'm sure shipping cost won't be cheap.
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May 24, 2012 11:25:10 PM

I have some friends going to Florida on June - July for holidays. They can bring some stuff with them. That's how I may do it.
Peru PC market is a little bit more pricey and there is no MIR here. But buying here may be less expensive than shipping it from the US. I'll figure it out when I'm sure what exactly I'm going to buy.
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May 24, 2012 11:31:13 PM

rdaws,
"@jgutz2006: Sorry, I forgot to ready forum rules before posting. My bad.
Already got monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.
I've got Windows 7 Ultimate already (is Home edition faster?) "

No windows 7 home is not necessarily faster, Differences are in things like BitLocker for drive encryption on Ultimate, Home cannot be joined to a domain, Home does not allow for remote access via RDC whereas Ultimate does both (theres quite a bit more difference when dealing with domain/server environments that probably mean nothing to you)
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May 25, 2012 3:59:58 AM

i5-2500k is a great value for money if you want to overclock and want to build a quad core computing machine for some heavy cpu work, which is different from your purpose
also it costs little more and thus you will need to cut down the cost of other things, thus you will have a unbalanced system

amd phenom 2 are good value for money, but uses more power (125w in comparision to intel's 65-95w), and are not easy to find, because they are discontinued
otherwise you can have a amd980+mobo for less cost than intel's
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May 25, 2012 9:56:23 AM

rdaws:
Obviously the i5 is more powerful than the i3 but the i3 is also good. You can check out benchmarks on the internet to find out if you want to spend the extra cash on the i5.

Overclocking is a matter of personal preference. It's not that hard to do a basic overclock there are even guides here on the forum so once again you can check out benchmarks on the internet using overclocked or non overclocked CPU/GPU and decide.

The difference between 1600 or 1333 RAM will be noticeable in benchmarks but not in real applications. But if money is not a problem then by all means get the 1600.

AMD builds tend to be cheaper than Intel but for gaming AMD is falling behind against Intel. There are comparisons between AMD and Intel CPU's on Tomshardware main page and if you check their list of best priced CPU's AMD is kind of lacking presence.

Anyway with that budget you can get either and AMD or Intel system which will play the games you mentioned on High and probably Ultra settings. Bear in mind that not all games are the same. BF3 for instance likes quad cored CPU's while Skyrim can easily be done with a good dual core
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May 25, 2012 12:34:03 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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