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May 26, 2012 11:01:25 AM

I figured since I have a $1000 coming my way from my security deposit on my expired lease it was time to reward myself with a complete overhaul of this system. I have done alot of research thus far and have worked out what I THINK I want.

Parts I plan to keep:

PSU - OCZ StealthXStream 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - Cooler Master CM 690 (will probably upgrade to the 690 II or Antec 900 though)

GPU - XFX Radeon HD 5670

DVD/CD Drive - Sony Optiarc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - WD Caviar Blue 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor - ViewSonic 19" Widescreen


I am interested in upgrading for the FUTURE. These are by no means the final parts I will be replacing this year I just need my computer back and I figured while I was at it I would start to re-build it with updated components. I want this at some point to be a upper-mid range computer withthe ability to perform well with every different task I can throw at it. I am interested in OCing but I DO NOT want to replace my power supply so all of the new parts should be able to operate on my current PWS.

I currently have a Athlon X2 2.4 GHz CPU, BioStar TF 520 A2+ mobo, and DDR2 Mushkin Silverline 2GB RAM module.

I would like to replace these parts with:

Intel i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3 GHz - $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Deneb Black Edition - $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

AsRock Z68 Extreme3 LGA 1155 - $118
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 - $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

G.Skill RipJaws DDR3 1333 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC10666 CAS 7-7-7-21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Will I need a new CPU fan/heatsink to be able to OC? I have a Cooler Master one right now (I dont rememeber exactly what model) that way outperforms my CPU but then I'm not really testing it the way these newer CPU's will.

Am I wasting money going with the i5-2500K? I dont game often enough that I need to be able to play every game at MAX settings but I would like this machine to play most every thing that strikes my fancy at high to very high settings. My setup prior to the overhaul was acceptable to me as I could play most eveything I wanted to play but usually on medium settings with a decent FPS.

Will the new parts be compatible with the old ones? If not which do i need to upgrade?

Thanks so much for your input as I would really appreciate it.

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May 26, 2012 11:12:04 AM

Go with a 3570k if you can, new architecture, the z77 boards will work out of the box with them, if you live near a Microcenter, its even cheaper. The 2500k is a fine choice as well tho. Id get rid of your GPU, the 5670 is a very low end HTPC casual gaming kinda card, I use them in my mini HTPCs I build into old NES cases. For the cash you have, youd be better of getting the 2500k, or 3570k and a low cost z77 mobo from ASRock and upgrading your PSU, and getting a 670. And an SSD. However, if you go with a 2500k, the new mobos the z77 and others of that line, wont work out of the box with Sandy Bridge. At least most of them will need a BIOS update, which you need a CPU that it does support in there to update the BIOS, pain in the ass.
May 26, 2012 12:29:29 PM

go with the sandy bridge, nothing AMD has can compete anymore, to get the performance of a stock i3 2100 with that phenom II you would have to overlcok it a good amount, at least in gaming performance.
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May 26, 2012 2:26:27 PM

I would go with a i5 2400 SB or a i5 3450 IB and H61/67/ B77 Motherboard (you don't need to be OCing to have a good gaming system) ($260)
get 4-8gb of PC 1600 ram C9 ($50)
Buy a Crucial M4 128GB SSD use your old HDD as secondary storage ($130)
I would upgrade you monitor to a 1080p ASUS 23" ($180)
GPU to HD 7850 ($250)
add a copy of Win7/64 ($100)

$980 or less if you grab some of the Newegg Memorial Day Deals.

and you have a Gamer for the next 3-5 years

May 26, 2012 5:46:27 PM

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Go with a 3570k if you can, new architecture, the z77 boards will work out of the box with them, if you live near a Microcenter, its even cheaper. The 2500k is a fine choice as well tho.


I was wondering whether to go with an Ivy Bridge CPU but I got the impression that you cannot OC the 3570k. This is a problem because if I can achieve 5+ GHz with a 2500k it is not really worth the extra money I will spend for an Ivy-based 3570k. From what I undestand even though the Sandy architecture in the 2500k is slightly slower at stock speeds an OC'ed CPU would perform at least as well as a 3570k (plus it is slightly cheaper which helps).

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I would go with a i5 2400 SB or a i5 3450 IB and H61/67/ B77 Motherboard (you don't need to be OCing to have a good gaming system) ($260)
get 4-8gb of PC 1600 ram C9 ($50)
Buy a Crucial M4 128GB SSD use your old HDD as secondary storage ($130)
I would upgrade you monitor to a 1080p ASUS 23" ($180)
GPU to HD 7850 ($250)
add a copy of Win7/64 ($100)

$980 or less if you grab some of the Newegg Memorial Day Deals.

and you have a Gamer for the next 3-5 years


Even though I have a $1000 I dont neccesarily want to spend all of it on this. Like I said I plan on upgrading more parts in the future (i.e. GPU). I am more concerned with whether the parts I am replacing (CPU, MB, RAM) are top quality selections and whether they will work with my current PSU and other older components.

Also I am under the impression that DDR3 1333 Ram is about all I would need. The CAS latency is rather low on the RAM I've chosen and it is very reasonably priced. Is it really worth it to step up to PC 1600?

What is the advantage of a SSD?


As for the Win7/64, I already have it.
May 26, 2012 6:37:18 PM

any moderns intel chips with the k at the end are overclockable. some have slightly different results when overclocked, but they are all very good for it. if it doesnt have th k at the end of model number then you cant overclock it the same. (if at all)
May 26, 2012 7:03:59 PM

spursfann07 said:
I was wondering whether to go with an Ivy Bridge CPU but I got the impression that you cannot OC the 3570k. This is a problem because if I can achieve 5+ GHz with a 2500k it is not really worth the extra money I will spend for an Ivy-based 3570k. From what I undestand even though the Sandy architecture in the 2500k is slightly slower at stock speeds an OC'ed CPU would perform at least as well as a 3570k (plus it is slightly cheaper which helps).


only a rare few will OC that high. Most only get 4.3 - 4.4GHz, The Ivy wont OC past 4.5 on air and they get really hot. they OC the i7. but it should hold true for all Ivy chips
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-overcloc...

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Even though I have a $1000 I dont neccesarily want to spend all of it on this. Like I said I plan on upgrading more parts in the future (i.e. GPU). I am more concerned with whether the parts I am replacing (CPU, MB, RAM) are top quality selections and whether they will work with my current PSU and other older components.

you are they only one that can decide if +10 FPS in game (when already getting 60FPS) is worth the extra $. A i5 2400 or 3450 is cheaper as are H61/67 /Z75/H77/B75 Motherboards. I would put the saved $ into a good GPU.

SUB $200 CPU's
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

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Also I am under the impression that DDR3 1333 Ram is about all I would need. The CAS latency is rather low on the RAM I've chosen and it is very reasonably priced. Is it really worth it to step up to PC 1600?

the higher clock rate is better than the lower CAS level
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...

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What is the advantage of a SSD?

faster os and app load times. I like instant gratification... the SSD provides :) 

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