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May 26, 2012 4:13:28 PM

So this is a rather peculiar build that I was hoping I could get some advice with. I stumbled upon an amazing deal for a 3930k so I'm looking to build a system around that despite how dramatically overpowered it is for what I use a computer for now. I know Ivy Bridge is launching, but for real this deal is sweet. So onward-

Approximate Purchase Date: June-ish

Budget Range: Like to stay around $1000 excluding price for 3930k

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, school work, daily grind

Parts Not Required: 3930k and SSD

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Whatever is reliable

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: In the future potentially

Monitor Resolution: Would like 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Any help greatly appreciated!

I want an all inclusive build sheet, everything I need to be up and running so include OS and fans and heatsinks whatnot. This ins kind of what I've come up with so far:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard: cheap, doesn't need to be fancy
Fans: x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Heat sink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know it almost looks funny, a 3930k and the rest of the build more budget oriented but like I said I don't need a monster. Right now I play/ed D3, WoW, LoL- nothing terribly graphic intensive so I don't need a beast. Negate the price of the SSD, and see if we can get the rest of the build under a grand, I know you guys can!

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May 26, 2012 4:18:41 PM

Oh, and would I get any benefit going with a PCIe 3.0 GPU or not really? Figured heat spreaders on the RAM wasn't crucial as the 2x 200mm fans should push ample air through to cool those and extra space for a CPU heat sink seemed more important and I went the 4x2GB as the MoBo has 4 channel memory so that should get me most benefit yeah? 8GBs is more than I'll dream of using in the foreseeable future. Your thoughts!?
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May 26, 2012 4:23:10 PM

ok my 2 cents. youre going to splurge hundreds on a hexacore cpu and only get a 7770. i dont care how cheap you are getting that cpu for you should not get it and spend the money saved on a better gpu. that is not a good gpu for gaming especially at 1080p.

get something a lot better then the 212+ if you plan on overclocking. it is cheap for a reason. its a lower end cooler.
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May 26, 2012 4:31:21 PM

Ivy Bridge launched a long time ago...

s2011 is a complete waste in my opinion for your uses. $539 is a great deal? Plus your paying an extra $100 for the mobo over Z77?

Don't waste your money, get a 3770K/Z77 and a REAL video card. 7770 isn't much faster than a 5770.
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May 26, 2012 4:33:11 PM

And if I told you I was getting the CPU for under $200? From everything I've seen the 6770 would run the games I play no problem, this is just a step up from that. This is actually my first build is why I'm seeking advice. I'm a little weary of overclocking right now but it is enticing, so if the 212 won't cut it I'll look for something better, any recommendations?
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May 26, 2012 4:35:30 PM

the link to newegg isn't the price I'm getting the cpu for, just listing it to have it up there
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May 26, 2012 4:36:32 PM

get a 3570k for the same price and save the 100 dollars on the motherboard and ram to get a better gpu. cause remember lga 2011 is a quad channel ram setup so you need atleast 4 dimms to run ram at reasonable speeds. the ram you choose will not work because it is 1.35v instead of 1.5v.
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May 26, 2012 4:44:21 PM

Ah, I knew I needed 4 dimms but didn't realize they needed to be 1.5V, thank you
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May 26, 2012 4:51:54 PM

But is s2011 such a dead end that even though I can get that chip for under $200 you think it'd be more beneficial to go another route? I figured the machine would last me quite a while and I'd just replace cpu/mobo when the time came down the road. Like I said it's my first build
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May 26, 2012 4:53:32 PM

Good luck getting it for under $200.
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May 26, 2012 5:01:04 PM

You should avoid buying stolen goods.
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May 26, 2012 5:06:32 PM

Here are a few recommendations based on what you're looking at:

Monitor - Asus VE228H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - I know it's more expensive but if your computer is on half the day every day for two years you'll save the money in electric bills no doubt, plus it's much better on your parts to have cleaner power. Therefore the antec EA-650 Platinum is a great buy - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Great motherboard, SSD, and RAM choices.
You can get Windows for free if you are in college and in an Engineering field.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo will work great for you and should certainly fit in that case.
The new GTX 670 is an amazing gpu to pair with the 3930k but it brings your budget to $1100. I'd say if you can't fork over that get a GTX 560 ti while they're cheap- they might be last gen tech but it should play anything you throw at it in conjunction with 6 cpu cores. That keeps the budget to $930.
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May 26, 2012 5:07:17 PM

LOL it's not stolen, it's a deal I'm able to get through work. So can a guy seeking advice get some constructive help? cbrunnem, thanks for the tip with the RAM and kevin83 for your post!
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May 26, 2012 5:08:31 PM

kevin83 said:

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo will work great for you and should certainly fit in that case.
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great is an overstatement by a mile. at 4.5 the 212+ will be 15-20 degrees behind a top of the line air cooler like a noctua.
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May 26, 2012 5:20:07 PM

The link you gave for the PSU is for the 550W, did you mean the 650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I liked the SeaSonic one being modular but I suppose the platinum provides more benefit. And I'll see if I can squeeze in the 560 Ti, or would the 560 suit me well enough? Thanks guys keep it comin'!
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May 27, 2012 12:55:51 AM

Yes sorry I did mean that psu.

The GTX 560 Ti provides enough extra power in enough games over the 560 to warrant its purchase, especially when the $40 rebate (Which I've had good luck with in the past) brings it down to $205. The Hawk version is much better for overclocking but $25 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 27, 2012 3:33:19 AM

Awesome. Well it looks like we just need to settle on a heat sink if everything else looks in order. I hear conflicting things about the hyper 212. What will keep it cool, fit the socket, and not break the bank? Also the 650W antec PSU will be enough for the system right? Will it handle some overclocking in the future too or would I need a heartier supply for that?
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May 28, 2012 5:41:59 AM

Awesome Kevin, thanks a lot! Actually appears that CM is now including an lga 2011 mounting bracket with the EVO (yeah?) so that makes it a little easier. And it would seem I've got a final build! Thanks so much guys, it'll probably just be later this week that I start to order the parts so if anyone has any other suggestions, advice, or critiques for a first time build/er please chime in. Thanks again!
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May 28, 2012 6:03:50 AM

geekapproved said:
You should avoid buying stolen goods.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen anyone post. What is your source that he is getting those items by smuggling?
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May 28, 2012 6:04:12 AM

ajblackie said:
And if I told you I was getting the CPU for under $200? From everything I've seen the 6770 would run the games I play no problem, this is just a step up from that. This is actually my first build is why I'm seeking advice. I'm a little weary of overclocking right now but it is enticing, so if the 212 won't cut it I'll look for something better, any recommendations?


What's your total budget for everything including the cpu ?


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/345471-31-thoughts-fi... $364.98 save: $10.00 FREE SHIPPING
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... <----- review of that board w/benchmarks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $46.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-600/geforce-gtx-66... $300 (due out July/August)
GTX 660 2GB

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May 28, 2012 6:21:52 AM

Well I wanted to keep it under $1000 excluding the cpu and ssd which I seem to have done (that's including monitor and OS and everything, not just computer) so under $1400 with cpu and ssd. The reason I was leaning toward this build over an ivy bridge is simply because I can get the i7-3930k for quite a bit less than even the i5-3570k. So basically I'm just building around that processor, which I know means a price jump in the motherboard that's compatible but I figure this should last me long enough to make it worth it.
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May 28, 2012 6:39:39 AM

ajblackie said:
Well I wanted to keep it under $1000 excluding the cpu and ssd which I seem to have done (that's including monitor and OS and everything, not just computer). The reason I was leaning toward this build over an ivy bridge is simply because I can get the i7-3930k for quite a bit less than even the i5-3570k. So basically I'm just building around that processor, which I know means a price jump in the motherboard that's compatible but I figure this should last me long enough to make it worth it.

The thing that makes it a tough decision is even though your getting that cpu for under $200, the cheapest X79 board is going to run $200. Then your going to pay more for your RAM and the LGA 2011 builds use more juice so you can't even think of going lite on your psu. It's a tough call.
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May 28, 2012 6:48:50 AM

It's a tough decision indeed. I can actually get the 3930k and the X79 board I posted just a hair cheaper than the 3570k and Z77 board listed in the build you linked. So beyond that it's a little more to get 4 sticks of RAM than 2, and from what another poster said anyway I should be fine with the psu we picked out but if you think it'd be lacking I'd appreciate a recommendation. The gentleman in the build you linked is also going for a much stronger graphics power than I need for now and the foreseeable future, and didn't need to factor in a monitor and OS as well.
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May 28, 2012 7:03:10 AM

ajblackie said:
It's a tough decision indeed. I can actually get the 3930k and the X79 board I posted just a hair cheaper than the 3570k and Z77 board listed in the build you linked. So beyond that it's a little more to get 4 sticks of RAM than 2, and from what another poster said anyway I should be fine with the psu we picked out but if you think it'd be lacking I'd appreciate a recommendation.

Ok...the Asrock X79 extreme3 for around $200. Get the CM EVO cpu h/s and make sure you use combo's on newegg whenever you can and amazon. The trick is to make every dollar count, leave out an SSD for now (they get cheaper every month) and put every dollar saved on combo's and using amazon when helpful towards a vid card. The vid card is the biggy. Now a 620w psu isn't going to push two of those 560 ti's with a X79 build... 750w for that.


http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

http://www.amazon.com/PC-Power-Cooling-Performance-comp... $106.85 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W High Performance 80PLUS Silver SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99
ASRock X79 Extreme3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $51.99 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial Ballistix 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS4KIT2G3D1609DS1S00

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $56.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-8GBZL

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-B... $17.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MSI-56TIOC $218.99 - $198.99 after rebate Free Shipping
MSI nVidia GeForce GTX560 Ti OC 1GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card - N560GTX-TI M2D1GD5 OC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.amazon.com/VS228H-P-21-5-Inch-Full-HD-Monito... $129.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black) | LED Backlit with 50,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio; Full 1080P with HDMI
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May 31, 2012 2:17:23 PM

Just about ready to start ordering all the components, one last thing:

according to http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car... the HD 6950 and GTX 560Ti are about on the same level. So of the two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....

If they're roughly the same performance it looks like I can get the Radeon card a little cheaper and it's 2gb over the NVIDIA 1gb. Your thoughts!?
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June 10, 2012 12:30:21 AM

Best answer selected by ajblackie.
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June 10, 2012 12:35:24 AM

For BF3, the 2GB will help.
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