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May 27, 2012 3:45:12 AM

My build is here (Newegg Wishlist): http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...



I've made some major changes to my starting parts list in the past few days,so I hope there aren't as many faults as the starting parts. My budget was intended to be 800 but I forgot to include the peripherals (Monitor, OS,Keyboard + Mouse) , so I am going to have to find a way to rack up an extra 400 dollar sadly. :( 

The PC is going to primarily used for gaming and school work. I'm hoping to buy everything next weekend and, if shipping days do not fail me, have it built 2 weeks after that. What I am really aiming for is to have everything up and running before June 26th, which is when I hope to grind out Guild Wars 2 (On ultra high settings of course :) ). I have no computer parts stores around me which means that I have to buy all my parts from an online source and shipping costs will add another 100 probably, I am guessing.

What I am really wondering about is if all parts are compatible with each other and for a bonus, HOW you know that all parts are compatible .I am also wondering if the two monitors I am getting are alright for a dual monitor. Any other feedback is welcomed. Thank you in advance, you guys are awesome!

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May 27, 2012 4:11:10 AM

Hey TNTyler, if I could suggest changes, the Radeon card you choose is out of stock. I have no doubt they will restock, I just don't know when.

You seem to have chosen the cheapest mouse and keyboard combo you could find. That is fine for things like school work, but, for gaming, not always advisable. I would spend a little more on a higher quality mouse/keyboard. That being said, it is wired, which tends to be the gamers choice, and can likely work fine (even if not advised).

The power supply will work great. Since your motherboard will not support dual GPU, you don't need a 750W power supply. Go for the same series, but 550W (in my opinion, if you have doubts, go with the 650W, it is still over kill). The 550W (and all ZT options) provide continuous power, not peak, so that's how I know 550W is more than needed (95W for the CPU, 130W for the GPU, nominal for the rest of the system).

Out of curiosity, why do you have one monitor larger than the other? (I do not use a multi-monitor setup).

Be aware that your DVD drive (do you care about Blu-Ray?) is OEM, meaning it probably won't come with any cables. You can potentially get those cables as extras in your motherboard package, but that is something else altogether. I very briefly checked to see if it did come with the needed cables, but I couldn't find anything.

I know I am forgetting things, I will reply if you reply. ;) 


Edit: Reasons I know these parts work: You picked a motherboard with socket 1155, and a CPU that is socket 1155. Your GPU is PCIe 3.0, your motherboard is PCIe 2.0. PCIe is backward compatible (AKA will work perfectly). As long as your power supply and motherboard were made in the same relative time span, it is fine (the mobo is 24pin ATX, and I don't know of a single PSU built today for home users that doesn't have that). The memory controller on your CPU natively supports DDR3 1333 MT/s, so does the MOBO, and that's what the RAM is. Personally, I would look for a mobo that supports DDR3 1600, and get RAM that is DDR3 1600. It is slightly faster for gaming, but 1333 will work just fine.

IMPORTANT: The monitors are both VGA + DVI. The GPU has only 1 DVI port. Either you need an HMDI to DVI or a miniDP to DVI to use multiple monitors, or get a different model of HD 7850, as other models have 2 DVI ports. Or the more expensive option which is to get a cable which can split the dual link DVI to 2 single link DVIs. (I am only assuming that the HD 7850 you picked is dual link, as that is the only thing that makes sense).

I hope I am not forgetting anything THIS time..! Good luck on your build. :) 
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May 27, 2012 4:29:26 AM

Of course I will reply! Going down on what you said by the way.

Yeah. I added the graphic card and hoped for the best that they will restock by this week, which is a low chance but you gotta try. If not, I'll just buy from another supplier (hopefully for cheaper).

I chose the cheapest combo I could find because I went way over my budget and am just trying to save money now haha. Rather not blow away another 100 on a keyboard + mouse.

I will listen to you on the power supply.

I have one monitor larger than the other because I was hoping to have like a primary monitor then a secondary monitor and my friend told me that your two monitors should have the same resolution. And the smallest monitor with a 1920 x 1080 was a 21.5 inch. I guess 23 and 21.5 inch don't match very well eh? Might as well get two 23 inch!

As for the DVD Drive, I just added the first one I saw. I had no idea what I was doing. Do you suggest any DVD Drive?

Also, what do you have to say about the compatibility of everything?
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May 27, 2012 4:30:01 AM

if you want dual monitors

1)has to be to the same size(doesnt have to be but it looks nicer and if you are going to game on both at the same time/watch movies)

2)same res and refresh rate(to make it look like it is all going at the same time)

i would suggest leaving out the second monitor and going for 1 so you can focus more on things such as

1)GPU
2)CPU
3)MOBO
4)RAM
5)SSD

this is ordered for gaming

nothing wrong with GPU right now i can suggest a downgrade if you just want to max GW2 such as a 6870 or a 6950(bios unlocked to 6970)

the Ram you choose is "ok" it is over priced and you can get a lot better ones(speed wise and price wise) from g.skill

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

these are great products from great companies

if you want to save some extra money, go for this HDD+burner combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

if you live near/in drive able distance to a microcenter i can make a really nice build that is better than this for a bit more
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May 27, 2012 4:38:44 AM

boulbox said:
if you want dual monitors

1)has to be to the same size(doesnt have to be but it looks nicer and if you are going to game on both at the same time/watch movies)

2)same res and refresh rate(to make it look like it is all going at the same time)

i would suggest leaving out the second monitor and going for 1 so you can focus more on things such as

1)GPU
2)CPU
3)MOBO
4)RAM
5)SSD

this is ordered for gaming

nothing wrong with GPU right now i can suggest a downgrade if you just want to max GW2 such as a 6870 or a 6950(bios unlocked to 6970)

the Ram you choose is "ok" it is over priced and you can get a lot better ones(speed wise and price wise) from g.skill

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

these are great products from great companies

if you want to save some extra money, go for this HDD+burner combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

if you live near/in drive able distance to a microcenter i can make a really nice build that is better than this for a bit more


I sadly live in Washington where there are no Micro Centers. I wish there were some around me lol.
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May 27, 2012 4:41:00 AM

Robert Pankiw said:
Hey TNTyler, if I could suggest changes, the Radeon card you choose is out of stock. I have no doubt they will restock, I just don't know when.

You seem to have chosen the cheapest mouse and keyboard combo you could find. That is fine for things like school work, but, for gaming, not always advisable. I would spend a little more on a higher quality mouse/keyboard. That being said, it is wired, which tends to be the gamers choice, and can likely work fine (even if not advised).

The power supply will work great. Since your motherboard will not support dual GPU, you don't need a 750W power supply. Go for the same series, but 550W (in my opinion, if you have doubts, go with the 650W, it is still over kill). The 550W (and all ZT options) provide continuous power, not peak, so that's how I know 550W is more than needed (95W for the CPU, 130W for the GPU, nominal for the rest of the system).

Out of curiosity, why do you have one monitor larger than the other? (I do not use a multi-monitor setup).

Be aware that your DVD drive (do you care about Blu-Ray?) is OEM, meaning it probably won't come with any cables. You can potentially get those cables as extras in your motherboard package, but that is something else altogether. I very briefly checked to see if it did come with the needed cables, but I couldn't find anything.

I know I am forgetting things, I will reply if you reply. ;) 


Edit: Reasons I know these parts work: You picked a motherboard with socket 1155, and a CPU that is socket 1155. Your GPU is PCIe 3.0, your motherboard is PCIe 2.0. PCIe is backward compatible (AKA will work perfectly). As long as your power supply and motherboard were made in the same relative time span, it is fine (the mobo is 24pin ATX, and I don't know of a single PSU built today for home users that doesn't have that). The memory controller on your CPU natively supports DDR3 1333 MT/s, so does the MOBO, and that's what the RAM is. Personally, I would look for a mobo that supports DDR3 1600, and get RAM that is DDR3 1600. It is slightly faster for gaming, but 1333 will work just fine.

IMPORTANT: The monitors are both VGA + DVI. The GPU has only 1 DVI port. Either you need an HMDI to DVI or a miniDP to DVI to use multiple monitors, or get a different model of HD 7850, as other models have 2 DVI ports. Or the more expensive option which is to get a cable which can split the dual link DVI to 2 single link DVIs. (I am only assuming that the HD 7850 you picked is dual link, as that is the only thing that makes sense).

I hope I am not forgetting anything THIS time..! Good luck on your build. :) 


Would this work as a GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It has 2 mini display ports, which I am assuming is the same as DVI? Correct me if I am wrong.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 27, 2012 5:55:54 AM

Both those GPU's are the same I/O wise.
No, Displayport and Mini Dispay port are different than DVI. you'l have to buy an adaptor to change the HDMI or Mini Display port to DVI.
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May 27, 2012 7:15:14 AM

This is an HD 7850 with 2 DVI ports. You should be able to easily OC this card to be higher performing, however, with a single fan, OCing it might make it a tad loud / warm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Pretty much same as above card, but with 2 fans, making it cooler AND quieter for $10 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is the 550W PSU. The important difference between the 550/650 and the 750 is that the 550/650 only come with 2 PCIe cables, further restricting you from going dual GPU (remember your mobo only allows single GPU).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree that only a single monitor is needed on your slightly strict budget, since that can be added later on. By the way, you won't be able to OC that CPU unless you want to play with the FSB, but then you might want to be a little bit more experience as that affects RAM (and everything else). Choosing a k-series might be the way to go, as, according to newegg, that mobo allows for OCing via k-series CPUs.
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May 27, 2012 7:31:46 AM

Robert Pankiw said:
This is an HD 7850 with 2 DVI ports. You should be able to easily OC this card to be higher performing, however, with a single fan, OCing it might make it a tad loud / warm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Pretty much same as above card, but with 2 fans, making it cooler AND quieter for $10 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is the 550W PSU. The important difference between the 550/650 and the 750 is that the 550/650 only come with 2 PCIe cables, further restricting you from going dual GPU (remember your mobo only allows single GPU).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I agree that only a single monitor is needed on your slightly strict budget, since that can be added later on. By the way, you won't be able to OC that CPU unless you want to play with the FSB, but then you might want to be a little bit more experience as that affects RAM (and everything else). Choosing a k-series might be the way to go, as, according to newegg, that mobo allows for OCing via k-series CPUs.


The one with 2 fans is sold out. Sad day :( 

And yeah. I've decided to go with ONE 23'' monitor and maybe, if I can get enough money, get a second monitor.

Also, what you do you mean k-series? Sorry. I am a extreme beginner when it comes to these terms. I just learned what overclocking was today.
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a b 4 Gaming
May 27, 2012 4:00:40 PM

what K series means is that it is a unlocked core so you can overclock very easy

also i have no idea why he would choose such a crappy brand for a PSU
if you want to save money here it is

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this is about the same price as what he posted and has a lot less failure rates

if you want to save a lot of money
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
again crappy brand it is $49.99 with rebates and $39.99 with promo

and if you want to save even more money without going through the rebate process
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 27, 2012 4:48:09 PM

Alright guys. I used your suggestions and I switched out the video card, PSU, RAM, Mobo, DVD Drive, and HDD. Mind checking it out before I click the buy button? I wanna get all my Memorial Sales in :) 

I would also like to add that I only have around $850 at the moment. I don't wanna let these Memorial Weekend Sale ends so I am going to buy my Computer in 2 parts. I am going to buy the GPU, Mobo, DVD Drive, Case, HDD, PSU, OS , RAM, and Keyboard + Mouse today or tomorrow. Than on the second round, I am going to buy the Monitor and CPU hopefully 3 weeks from now or less. Does this sound like a good plan?
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May 27, 2012 6:50:48 PM

Is it just me, or do you have better parts that cost less? ;)  Edit: Just realized you removed a monitor, and that's why it is less. I still think it is much better parts.

I definitely approve of this build. Keeping in mind, the CPU still won't OC, but as you yourself stated, you are a beginner, so don't worry about that too much. If you want to OC later on in the future using this build, get the i5-2500k, it is about $220 (+$40) and 400Mhz faster (not a terribly big deal in my opinion).

I believe I wrote in my first post why everything should work just fine together. If you have any questions, you can inbox me, or just about anyone who is friendly on this site.

To Boulbox, I choose that brand because I personally use OCZ (A Z-series, which has been discontinued), I have read on THW forums that their high-end offerings are good (fully-modular = high-end in my brain) and that is the same brand the OP choose. Just in case you wanted to follow my reasoning. :) 

TNTyler, you can buy it when ever you like at this point. If you want to wait another hour or 2 for someone else to post, then do it. What harm can come of waiting? They might even see something I missed! :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
May 27, 2012 7:17:40 PM

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