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May 28, 2012 7:42:13 PM

First off hello, and I hope the categorization I chose was correct.

But I wanted to know is this a good Gaming PC build? *I already have a radeon HD4870, a 500gb Seagate HDD, and a windows 7 & X OS's (making two partitions on the HDD when I can)*

keep in mind, this is a budget computer, and my first custom build.

Here's what I've got on Newegg:
1. Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower (Tom's Hardware enthusiast PC building picked case)

2. ASUS M5A97 EVO AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

3. Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-750-M 750W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified

4. AMD FX-4170 Zambezi 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4170FRGUBOX (Is this a good processor for gaming?

5. G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

6. LITE-ON Black Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo SATA Model ihes112-04 - OEM

7. Rosewill RCX-TC090PRO Thermal Compound

I have keyboards/monitors, and other peripheral. Just need to know if the guts are good. Thanks. I want to be able to play some FPS (BF3, BFBC2, COD, etc) and Steam/Valve games like portal, TF2, etc. Thanks again. :D 
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May 28, 2012 7:47:53 PM

I strongly suggest you consider an intel build for gaming. What is your total budget?
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May 28, 2012 8:03:52 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Hi and welcome to the TH forum and this is the correct catagory. Starting out I have listed a couple of charts for you to look at and see where a cpu and gpu will fall in the list of high to low.
Being a budget gaming rig I can see your going with the low end for parts and in specific Rosewill parts , just keep in mind that you get what you pay for. A case doesn't factor into the performance of the computer other than the ventillation so being a Rosewill case don't matter. The psu however is a very inportant component and the brand Rosewill doesn't inspire quality and reliability to me.

CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$149.99 and a $20 rebate making the final price $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
$11.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the Corsair psu you can save $10 from the Rosewill and have a much better brand of psu. The thermal compound from Artic Silver is the best.
The thing you want to think about is that when building a gaming computer the cpu that is the best for gaming is the Intel cpu and while the AMD cpu's are less expensive they are also not as good . The chart above will verify that.
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May 28, 2012 10:49:25 PM

oh well... I was thinking that since the FX processors are easily over clockable, and come "unlocked" I figured it would be nice.... I would love an i7 gulftown but considering I don't have 1000$ to throw around, I want something less expensive, but still good enough to play Battlefield, and do basic media. I will look into some AM3+ socket intels. THank you guys. My budget is around 500$ which is not very good, but I will hopefully make this work.
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May 28, 2012 11:08:07 PM

There are no AM3+ socket Intels that socket is for AMD cpus only. The Newle released Ivy Bridge cpu's and the Sandy Bridge cpu's are very overclockable , you just need to get an unlocked model usually a K model and you can ocerclock. AMD is not the only cpu that can be overclocked. Try to see what you can put together for a budget and maybe squeeze a little more money from someplace and let us know what you come up with for an amount and we will help you get to where you want to be.
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May 28, 2012 11:38:09 PM

Ok I'm sorry. Didn't know... so I guess a different motherboard is in order... what do the parts I have picked out have the capability of? I was hoping to do AMD based considering my Radeon Card. but as for budget, I think 600$ MAX. Like I said, something to handle Battlefield, and still lower priced than 200$....

As for motherboard, what are the brands you recommend? I know ASUS is very reliable, correct?

I think I might go with an i3... is that a decent one for gaming? which i3 version if yes?
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May 29, 2012 12:04:09 AM

ASUS is a great brand of motherboard, though they can be a tad expensive. You might consider ASRock as an alternative, especially on a budget.
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May 29, 2012 12:11:02 AM

The fact that you already have a HD4870 video card wil go a long way to getting you to a good gamong rig. You also don't need to go with an AMD cpu just because you have a HD 4870 , that card will work just fine with an Intel cpu.

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$219.99 and free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
$33.99 and free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$121.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
$54.99 and free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$149.99 and a $20 rebate make the final price $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This comes to $580 and to that you have to add your case and dvd drive and if you can swing this then you will have a first class top quality computer capable of top performance in BF3. With the final cost being so close to you budget limit then you may want to shop at some other places as well as Newegg to maybe get some more rebates or sales. If you live near a Micro center then you will defenitly get some better prices and if not then you can also try Amazon. The key componetnt to all this is the i5-2500K cpu , which you can overclock to your hearts content and if you can catch it for less someplace else then you are golden.
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May 29, 2012 12:21:47 AM

1. Thank you SO much sir! I have my eye on a HIS iCooler H775F1GD Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
2. I live close-ish to a micro center, I will check them out.
I will make an expedition to a micro-center in hopes of better prices. Thank you again SO much! I will try to keep you updated as to what I have, and any issues/concerns/questions.
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May 29, 2012 12:23:52 AM

Inzone's build would be okay for low settings on BF3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDnpse2s8bk

If you want to increase the settings, you are going to need a better graphics card than the 4870 in a build. I gave you a link to a vid of that setup for you to watch so you'll be able to better decide if that's the kind of performance you want.
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May 29, 2012 12:43:59 AM

kelthic , the budget for this build is $600 MAX and I was trying to work within that budget , the OP has a video card (4870) and was not looking to add or replace it since that would put him way over his budget. There are hard choices to be made with such a low budget and if he gets the parts as listed he can then work on the video card since he has one to get by with for now.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

I would look at this chart before deciding on taking a step backwards with a 7750. You have a better card now.
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May 29, 2012 1:04:15 AM

Not bad quality! I like it! I could always upgrade someday. (build another computer) when I get a job. I LOVE the case. I saw a Newegg TV review, and it has ALL the possible cooling options. 3 exhaust fans, and a fan on the bottom for the PSU with a filter. Toms hardware certified too. Thanks again guys. Fast and reliable help.
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May 29, 2012 1:04:39 AM

Hi there, a couple of comments:
1. The HD4870 is a fine card but will bottleneck an overclocked i5 - an i3 would be ample and you'd be able to save on PSU, cooler, thermal paste and motherboard (since you won't NEED P67 or Z68).
2. A quality PSU is non-negotiable, but you don't need anywhere near 750w. I ran a 4870X2 and overclocked Q6600 on a quality 600w for a couple of years with no problems, so you will be fine with a good 450w or 520w like Antec's Neo ECO or Corsair's VX/CX/TX series.
3. AMD have their place but if you're buying new then go with Intel for gaming.
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May 29, 2012 1:05:30 AM

inzone said:
kelthic , the budget for this build is $600 MAX and I was trying to work within that budget , the OP has a video card (4870) and was not looking to add or replace it since that would put him way over his budget. There are hard choices to be made with such a low budget and if he gets the parts as listed he can then work on the video card since he has one to get by with for now.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

I would look at this chart before deciding on taking a step backwards with a 7750. You have a better card now.


I understand this, just trying to help the OP keep realistic expectations of what he is looking at, not diss your build at all. No offense was meant if it came across that way.
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May 29, 2012 2:01:43 AM

romany8806 said:
Hi there, a couple of comments:
1. The HD4870 is a fine card but will bottleneck an overclocked i5 - an i3 would be ample and you'd be able to save on PSU, cooler, thermal paste and motherboard (since you won't NEED P67 or Z68).
2. A quality PSU is non-negotiable, but you don't need anywhere near 750w. I ran a 4870X2 and overclocked Q6600 on a quality 600w for a couple of years with no problems, so you will be fine with a good 450w or 520w like Antec's Neo ECO or Corsair's VX/CX/TX series.
3. AMD have their place but if you're buying new then go with Intel for gaming.


Well as for the PSU I know a guy who's built a gaming rig for 5k (Mobo evga x58 gulftown 980 hex core 24gb ram) and he told me I need a minimum of 750w for the Radeon, and it would be recommended.... but what ev... I like the set up that inzone gave me. thanks again for the efforts and help!

I think I will stick with my G.Skill RAM as my friend has a rig w/ it and loves his G.Skill sniper series. I have around 250$ right off the bat from savings bonds, so I think it is wise that I buy the 220$ processor. (price after taxes approx I think)


by the way, if I were to overclock, Newegg suggested this heatsink and fan:

ARCTIC COOLING ACFZ13 92mm High Performance CPU Cooler for Intel and AMD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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May 29, 2012 3:30:20 AM

papasmerrf767 said:
Well as for the PSU I know a guy who's built a gaming rig for 5k (Mobo evga x58 gulftown 980 hex core 24gb ram) and he told me I need a minimum of 750w for the Radeon, and it would be recommended.... but what ev... I like the set up that inzone gave me. thanks again for the efforts and help!

I think I will stick with my G.Skill RAM as my friend has a rig w/ it and loves his G.Skill sniper series. I have around 250$ right off the bat from savings bonds, so I think it is wise that I buy the 220$ processor. (price after taxes approx I think)


by the way, if I were to overclock, Newegg suggested this heatsink and fan:

ARCTIC COOLING ACFZ13 92mm High Performance CPU Cooler for Intel and AMD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Here are the AMD requirements for a 4870: 500w and two 6 pin pcie power connectors:
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-rad...

As to a aftermarket cpu cooler, here is a very good one for half the price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 29, 2012 4:31:23 AM

You for sure want to go Intel if you plan on booting into OS X like you said in the first post. OS X won't work on a AMD CPU. It will do fine with a AMD GPU as long as its set up right.

In your spot with your budget i would build a:
i3 2120
H61 Motherboard
450-600 wats Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, XFX, Power and go from there.
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