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May 28, 2012 10:40:05 PM

I built a pc back in August 2011. The components are listed below. The problem i have had since day one is the computer boots up incredibly slow for how much power it has. I clocked it today at taking 3.45 minutes to startup. I do not know where to start looking for the problem. I have formatted once when i thought it was a software issue but that didnt really fix anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1. Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...

2. ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

3.CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 (CMPSU-850HX) 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC ...

4. G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9Q-16GBRL

5.Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM

6. HIS IceQ X Turbo H695QNT2G2M Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

7. Sapphire Radeon 6950 Toxic

8. Seagate 1TB internal HDD

9. Seagate Ext HDD 1 TB

10. WD 2 TB Ext HDD

11. WD 1.5TB Ext HDD

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a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 12:42:54 AM

You do know that loadup speeds are only affected (for the most part) by the HDD? Are your HDDs 7200rpm? Also, are you booting off of an external HDD? I'd look into getting a boot SSD. There may be a problem with any RAID you have set up. I'd recommend downloading something called "Soluto" and using that to find your problem as a first step. If it's not something that's loading up at the start (and it most likely is), then it's hardware. You said you formatted it, but are you sure you didn't download any bloatware or other heavy programs right after that?

I'd do a virus scan just in case.
May 29, 2012 12:46:00 AM

thanks man. I really appreciate it. I do a virus scan every Wednesday night and nothing is showing up so i am pretty sure its clean. Yes i am booting off the internal drive but i am not sure if it is 7200 or 5400 I probably should look into that. Thank you for your suggestion. ill go get the program right now.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 12:48:36 AM

It shouldn't be that HUGE of a difference between 7200 and 5400. I'm thinking your RAM might be an issue, but then again... it would be strange for it to cause just that.
May 29, 2012 12:50:55 AM

even if 1 stick is bad i have 12 GBs remaining. wouldnt the comp still be pretty quick?

well alot quicker than a 3 minute startup
May 29, 2012 1:11:06 AM

If even 1 stick of ram is bad your computer likely won't even boot.

Can you give more info on the boot HDD?

May 29, 2012 1:12:17 AM

like what?
May 29, 2012 1:16:52 AM

Make, and model.
May 29, 2012 1:19:11 AM

Seagate ST31000333AS ATA
May 29, 2012 1:21:58 AM

It's a 7200 rpm drive. (just making sure it wasn't a 'green' drive)

The only thing I can think of is that you have heaps of services starting
May 29, 2012 1:23:18 AM

i disabled them and it did speed up the startup a bit, it got down to 2 minutes. but that still seemed long
May 29, 2012 1:30:58 AM

lilrex said:
i disabled them and it did speed up the startup a bit, it got down to 2 minutes. but that still seemed long

you have a lot of drives so make sure you have your internal boot drive listed first in the boot order. if not it will scan every drive above it in the list for windows first.
a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 2:14:49 AM

I think that's the problem, actually. 2 minutes is massive even for a HDD. Again, I'd check that you're booting off of an internal drive.
May 29, 2012 2:36:29 AM

ddan49 said:
I think that's the problem, actually. 2 minutes is massive even for a HDD. Again, I'd check that you're booting off of an internal drive.

i wouldnt say massive. i have had 1:15-1:30 boot times with hard drives.
May 29, 2012 2:37:26 AM

well my i3 rig boots up 10x faster than my i5 rig and thats just wrong....lol
a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 2:40:14 AM

Well, your CPU doesn't affect it much.

Also, 2 minutes is MASSIVE for a clean install with almost no startup apps.
May 29, 2012 2:41:09 AM

lilrex said:
well my i3 rig boots up 10x faster than my i5 rig and thats just wrong....lol


well youre not helping us because you never stated whether or not you checked your boot order.
May 29, 2012 2:41:46 AM

i know cpu doesnt affet im saying my i5 rig has higher spec all the way around compared to my i3 rig
May 29, 2012 2:43:56 AM

cbrunnem said:
well youre not helping us because you never stated whether or not you checked your boot order.



yes my apologies, i am currently tied up. i will be checking it in about 30 minutes
May 29, 2012 2:50:04 AM

ok good. let us know!!
May 29, 2012 5:55:12 AM

Could you try running your stop watch when the windows logo appears? I wonder if you're just spending a minute in POST?
May 29, 2012 6:08:18 AM

if you're thinking ram is bad then you can try remove 2 ram modules in different combinations at a time and see if that affects the start-up time. also, do what cbrunnem said and verify for yourself how much of the start-up time is spent posting.
the easy way to check if you're actually booting off the internal drive is disconnect all your ext hdd's and boot again. if it doesn't even boot to windows, then that means your pc was booting off one of the externals. although it's hard to believe that one installed windows onto an external in the first place...
a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 10:38:22 AM

Not too hard :) 
I, a rather technologically proficient teenager, accidentally not only installed Windows on my external drive, but EVERY SINGLE DRIVER :lol: 
Took me a good hour to figure out the problem. My USB ports were unstable at the time, so it would only sometimes boot up.
May 29, 2012 3:58:03 PM

Well, you MAY be able to move your installation to an internal drive. Use something like Acronis and tell it you're upgrading your hdd.
a b B Homebuilt system
May 29, 2012 8:06:27 PM

Just reinstall on your internal drive.
May 30, 2012 3:20:52 AM

Ok, sorry for the late reply, things get hectic around final exams.

I did as you guys requested and double checked the boot priority. It was as i remembered CD rom> HDD ST10003AS>WD ext
May 30, 2012 3:22:44 AM

tjs4ever said:
Well, you MAY be able to move your installation to an internal drive. Use something like Acronis and tell it you're upgrading your hdd.



Everything is already installed on my internal drive (well all the main programs) My 2TB is for games, 1.5 TB for my radio show and video editing and my 1TB ext as a backup
May 30, 2012 12:41:58 PM

*was commenting on cases WHERE OS IS on external. Like with ddan49. Perhaps your internal is under-performing. Try and read its SMART data, try chkdsk (maybe your filesystem is dirty?) Is the drive full and heavily fragmented?
May 30, 2012 1:02:54 PM

tjs4ever said:
*was commenting on cases WHERE OS IS on external. Like with ddan49. Perhaps your internal is under-performing. Try and read its SMART data, try chkdsk (maybe your filesystem is dirty?) Is the drive full and heavily fragmented?



Try is showing no ragmentation, and not even close to full. How do i check SMART data?
May 30, 2012 1:57:50 PM

Hrrrrmmm ... You need software to check SMART. I use speedfan, but I'm sure more current software exists. Try some bench marking software and see what kind of performance your drives are getting.
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