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March 29, 2012 3:18:45 AM

Gainward nVidia GTX 580 1.5G Or saphire radeon amd 7870 2gb ghz edtion

prices
gtx 580= $399
7870= $395

(im in aus)

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March 29, 2012 3:20:12 AM

I have the 7870, though I don't have a 580 to compare to, according to benchmarks it should be pretty close, and as new drivers come out, it should only get better..
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March 29, 2012 3:29:39 AM

There is a never ending debate about that and the thing is it all depends on the games that you play. Some games play good with the 580 and some play good with the 7870. So what you have to do is look at some benchmark articles and see what games shine with which cards and the card the plays the games better that you play the most would be the one for you.
The drivers play an important roll also and Nvidia does have an edge in that department.
If you have or intend on having a motherboard that has the Pci-e 3.0 slot , then that's a consideration as well as the 7870 is 3.0 ready.
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March 29, 2012 3:32:30 AM

Hm... yea The motherboard im getting has pcie 3.0 but is there a diffrience?
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March 29, 2012 3:33:31 AM

Nearly every benchmark I've seen shows the 7970 ahead of the GTX580. Only a game here or there gives the GTX580 a win. Seeing as its more expensive and uses more power and gets only one or two wins, I'm not sure how you'd even consider the GTX580. 7970 all the way.
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March 29, 2012 3:35:40 AM

4745454b said:
Nearly every benchmark I've seen shows the 7970 ahead of the GTX580. Only a game here or there gives the GTX580 a win. Seeing as its more expensive and uses more power and gets only one or two wins, I'm not sure how you'd even consider the GTX580. 7970 all the way.


O.o hehe i think you missread my post my good friend :D . im comparing the 7870 and the 580 the 7970 is awesome but its 579 here in aus
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March 29, 2012 3:39:43 AM

I'm in Aus too and I reckon the 7870 all the way! Just wish the price was a little lower :) 

You can overclock the 7870 very well and it's newer technology, so it's a win imoh.
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March 29, 2012 3:40:23 AM

7870 ;)  similar performance but draws way less power. If I were you I would go with the dual fan Sapphire version as it's beyond quiet.
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March 29, 2012 3:43:23 AM

diec4st said:
7870 ;)  similar performance but draws way less power. If I were you I would go with the dual fan Sapphire version as it's beyond quiet.

Yea. the sapphire dual fan is the one i was looking at. so physx and cuda dont really matter aye?
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March 29, 2012 3:45:43 AM

Yeah, I see that now....

I'd probably get the GTX580 depending on the rest of the system. Similar price but the GTX580 should win more often then not.
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March 29, 2012 4:01:11 AM

You won't use the cuda rendering as much unless you are doing video editing and the physix is not as noticeable yet but it's a slow intergration. You have to be shown what specificly to look for to notice the physix in a game. I'm sure that I would rather have the physix than not because it's only going to get better. I think you would have to have two machines one with Nvidia and one with AMD and play the same game to see what the effects of the physx is. I have always used Nvidia so I can't exactly say what you should look for in a game to see the physx effect.
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March 29, 2012 5:22:38 AM

Well im paring it up with a amd 8120 8gbddr 3 1600mhz ram and a asus saber tooth and a 1000w psu coolermaster gold. so yea. idk the 580 is a bit faster right now but considring the 7870 drivers are still new....
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March 29, 2012 5:28:20 AM

PhysX is greatly dependent on which games you play. Only about 25 games actually support GPU accelerated PhysX, for games that don't support that feature having an nvidia card isn't going to give you better physics rendering. Unless you plan on playing a lot of Batman Arkham Asylum/Arkham City, Mafia II, Metro 2033, Unreal Tournament 2007 or one of the other games that actually supports the feature, it's not worth worrying about.

GPU accelerated PhysX really hasn't taken off as most developers don't seem to be interested in putting resources into a feature that a) the consoles don't support. and b) only about half the PC audience can use. Just about every game that does have GPU accelerated PhysX only seems to have it because nvidia paid the developer to put the feature into the game. Since nvidia can't afford to do that with every developer for every game, adoption of the technology has been quite slow. Last year only two major titles came out that supported GPU accelerated PhysX: Alice: Madness Returns, and Batman: Arkham City.

As for CUDA, as said above, it is useful in accelerating certain productivity applications. It isn't used in gaming, so if you don't have an application that benefits from CUDA and don't plan on using one there isn't much point on going with an nvidia card solely for that feature.
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March 29, 2012 6:54:21 AM

The draw of the 7870 is that you can get near GTX580 performance with better power figures for less. In your case they are basically the same. I'd rather have the better performance over the power numbers, more so if your system can handle it.

Speaking of the system, why the 81xx? Assuming this is a gaming machine you would be better off with 1055 1090, 1100 from the previous gen, or a 2400/2500 from Intel. Even a 2100/2120 or G860 shouldn't have much trouble staying close to a 81xx. I'd change that CPU out.
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March 29, 2012 7:07:17 AM

4745454b said:
The draw of the 7870 is that you can get near GTX580 performance with better power figures for less. In your case they are basically the same. I'd rather have the better performance over the power numbers, more so if your system can handle it.

Speaking of the system, why the 81xx? Assuming this is a gaming machine you would be better off with 1055 1090, 1100 from the previous gen, or a 2400/2500 from Intel. Even a 2100/2120 or G860 shouldn't have much trouble staying close to a 81xx. I'd change that CPU out.

Hm. yea all my mates have told me not to go with the 8120. i mean its only 199 thats why i thought. and really saying i have a i5 just doesnt feel right haha you will probally think im weird. and the cheapest i7 is 290 D: im thinking since im playing at a high resoloution the 8120 should be fine. i mean i havent got the cpu or motherboard yet so i can always go intel. anyway
yea im confused with the 7870 or 580. anyway thanks for the input thus far
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March 29, 2012 7:35:07 AM

form what i read go with a i5 as the i7 is mostly for the extra threads which games DO NOT USE and the 7870 as if you are building a gaming rig but go with a 8120 or a i7 and the 580 if you are going for a video editing and productivity workstation or sever.
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March 29, 2012 7:36:41 AM

stanistheman said:
Gainward nVidia GTX 580 1.5G Or saphire radeon amd 7870 2gb ghz edtion

prices
gtx 580= $399
7870= $395

(im in aus)


Wait a couple week until GTX 680 become available again, the 7870 price will drop. I'll probably get 1 for $50 less or I'll wait for the GTX 660/670.
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March 29, 2012 7:37:51 AM

For me, the 7870 seems like the easy choice.
Even with it being a little slower than the GTX 580, it is massively more power efficient.
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March 29, 2012 12:32:17 PM

I've had a lot of fun posting this chart over the last few weeks. I think I will continue.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

Do you see the OC'd 8120? Do you see what CPU from Intel performs like that OC'd 8120? That's right, the 2100. Think about that. A 4.2GHz 8120 performs like a stock 2100 in gaming. Because Intel doesn't currently allow OCing with all chips you'll need a faster CPU, but the 2400 is such a CPU and is faster then anything from AMD in those charts. Again, if you are building a gaming machine, just grab the 2400 or 2500K if you want to OC and game. I wouldn't spend $200 on an AMD CPU at this point. I5 or I7, it doesn't matter. It's better then BD.
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March 29, 2012 1:11:08 PM

The 7970 has already dropped in price here in the UK, lower than the price of a GTX 680.

I'd honestly go with the GTX 580, it performs better and it's come way down in price. It will be a beast for a good year or two more.
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March 29, 2012 10:43:19 PM

Hm... yea thanks for that line to the overclocking. well ill be going intel now "sigh" oh well. and probally just end up going i5/i7+gtx 580
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March 30, 2012 12:30:52 PM

Best answer selected by stanistheman.
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