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May 29, 2012 8:04:27 PM

Hello everyone.

I am seeking some advice. If you could tell me which one of these computers would be better suite for running the latest games on max settings/fps that would be much appreciated.

PC 1:

Case: Azza Fusion 4000 Super Full-Tower 2-in-1 Gaming Case w/ Dual System Support, Dual PSU Support, 1x 140mm & 2x 120mm Fans, Front USB 3.0, HDD Easy Swap, 480MM Liquid Cooling Ready

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Ultimate OC (Ultimate Overclock 30% or more)

Cooling Fan: Asetek 570LX Liquid Cooling system w/ 240MM Radiator and Dual Fans (Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (All Venom OC Certified)

Motherboard: [CrossFireX/SLI] Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, Ultra Durable4 Classic, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x Gen3 PCIe x16, 3x PCIe x1 & 1 PCI (All Venom Ultimate OC Certified)

Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory

Video Card 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card
Video Card 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card

Power Supply: 1,050 Watts - Corsair HX1050W 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready

Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Price $2136.00 (Cyberpowerpc)

PC 2:

Case: Black OPS Enix Edition

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.40 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)

Cooling Fan: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (Intel Z77 Chipset)

Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series

Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA 02G-P4-2682-BR)

Power Supply: 850W Corsair TX850 V2

Hard Drive: 1x (500GB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (7200 RPM)

Price: $2,241.00 (Digital Storm)

I plan on ordering tomorrow so a quick response would be great. If you could see anything that needs changing or a suggestion feel free to mention that as well.

Thank you!



May 29, 2012 8:25:49 PM

What is your budget? Getting a nice system without an SSD is a crime.

How many screens are you planning to run (and how big)?

The system in my sig runs BF3 at 1080p on ultra above 60fps and should run you about $1,700 at Cyberpower.

Digital Storm is a higher end company but I've had two CyberPowers with no problems. YMMV. All other things being equal, the CyberPower will destroy the single 680 Digital Storm (tho you are now using twice the electricity, more heat, more noise when a single 670 is effective for the latest games).
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May 29, 2012 8:32:15 PM

Thank you for your quick reply.

What SSD would you recommend?

Single monitor 1920x1080.

Would you recommend that I just go with the 670 as the SLI would be overkill and would not be much better than the single? If this is the case, would you still recommend the cyberpower over the 680 Digital?

Thank you!
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May 29, 2012 8:41:48 PM

I must be missing something because the two systems are alomst identicle except for the video cards and how can a pc with two 670's be cheaper than a pc with one 680 and a smaller psu?
So I guess my vote goes for the Pc 1 version , even though I question the 30% overclock on the Ivy Bridge cpu. The two GTX 670's will absolutly bury the GTX 680.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-overcloc...
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May 29, 2012 8:46:29 PM

I'm leaning towards the CyberPower myself as well.

2xGTX 670 will destroy anything out there, period. Even the GTX 680. All for less than the Digital Storm one.
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May 29, 2012 8:53:48 PM

Thanks everyone for helping me choose! I'll be ordering PC1 from cyberpower tomorrow. I noticed the comment about the 30% overclock on the Ivy Bridge, is this something I should be worried about? Should I go with a lesser OC? Any other recommendations or improvements to my setup?


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May 29, 2012 9:01:32 PM

A 30% overclock just means that it comes with a factory overclock of the CPU to 4.4GHz.

3400MHz x 0.3 = 1020MHz. Add that on top of 3400 and you have 4420MHz.

Which is about the ballpark in terms of Ivy Bridge overclock for 24/7 use.
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May 29, 2012 9:13:56 PM

Thank you for your clarification on the OC. If someone could check out my setup for PC 1 and make sure there are not any changes or upgrades that I need to make before ordering that would be very helpful.

Thanks again for all your input and help.
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May 29, 2012 9:15:09 PM

I provided a link to the overclock article from here at TH about the Ivy Bridge being overclocked and there seems to be a heat problem when voltage is added so you might want to consider a 20% overclock or 25% max if you have the option. I would read the article before ordering just so you can get a feel for what you want to do with the overclock.
I really like the two GTX 670's as that will be some gaming rig powerhouse and depending on your budget amount I would also consider a SSD for the boot drive. The SaMSUNG 830 is a very good SSD and I have one for my boot drive and I really do like it.
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May 29, 2012 9:21:29 PM

inzone has it right with the samsung 830 =P
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May 29, 2012 9:34:18 PM

Thanks! I'll take the SSD into consideration. One last thing, when I selected the video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0, (I will be going SLI) it gave me these options:

- Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA
- EVGA Superclocked [+10]

Which one should I select?

Also, I'll be going with 20% OC instead of the 30% I originally posted.


Thank you!
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May 29, 2012 9:43:47 PM

I couldn't help but notice you said you are running a single monitor at 1080p. The 670 sli set up is really quite overkill. The nice thing about sli is you can just get one 670 now, and add another anytime in the future, if you even need it anytime soon.

Why not put the extra money for the second 670 to a nice SSD, I think you'll notice a much better performance boost if you get a nice 240gb SSD for windows and some games that you frequently play.

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May 29, 2012 9:47:09 PM

Sorry - one more thing to consider. You could drop down to one 670, add a 256GB Samsung 830, and still come out ahead. Then, add another 670 a year or two from now after the price drops a little and a game exists that can actually take advantage of that much horsepower.

Happy gaming!
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May 29, 2012 10:56:11 PM

newguy2012 said:
Thanks! I'll take the SSD into consideration. One last thing, when I selected the video card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0, (I will be going SLI) it gave me these options:

- Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA
- EVGA Superclocked [+10]

Which one should I select?

Also, I'll be going with 20% OC instead of the 30% I originally posted.


Thank you!



If they go with a choice of brand name then I would go with Evga , they are a top notch company and I have been using thier cards for quite a few years now. They are also very good with thier warranties and they stand behind thier cards 100%. Good idea on the 20%.
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May 29, 2012 11:49:48 PM

So here is what my order looks like before processing:

CAS: Azza Fusion 4000 Super Full-Tower 2-in-1 Gaming Case w/ Dual System Support, Dual PSU Support, 1x 140mm & 2x 120mm Fans, Front USB 3.0, HDD Easy Swap, 480MM Liquid Cooling Ready [+70]
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: CoolIT ECO II-240 Extreme Performance Liquid Cooling System 240MM Radiator & Dual Fans
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair XMS with Heat Spreader)
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS P8Z77-V Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, Wi-Fi GO!, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, Display Port, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom Ultimate OC Certified) [+122]
OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+30]
POWERSUPPLY: 1,050 Watts - Corsair HX1050W 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+193]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+310] (EVGA Superclocked [+10])
VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+439] (EVGA Superclocked [+10])

_PRICE: (+2187)

I took some of the standard stuff out of the order such as operating system etc, so you would be able to see what I would like you guys to check out.

I also should mention I am getting speakers as well as the package care and professional wiring which adds to the price. (I decided on going with the SLI setup and could not find the SSD option, maybe I am overlooking it)

To the point: Does this setup work with what I have chosen and how does it look?

Thanks all for helping me out!
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May 30, 2012 1:36:53 AM

I know it may be too early for a "bump" but I figured why not before I go to bed. I was amazed at everyone's quick responses and when I wake up I'm hoping someone will reply to my last post.

Well then have a great night everyone, and I can't express how much this help means.

Thanks all!

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May 30, 2012 11:33:39 AM

Morning everyone,

Quick question. Since I am going with SLI (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0), I want to make sure I have selected the correct motherboard.

Which one of these two should I select?

[CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCie x1 & 2 PCI (Extreme OC Certified)


Or


CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS P8Z77-V Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, Wi-Fi GO!, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, Display Port, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2x PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (All Venom Ultimate OC Certified)


Thanks!
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