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May 29, 2012 8:06:28 PM

Hi,

I'm into video editing a lot and I work with 1080p and 720p footage all the time and I need to build a new computer as my current set up isn't powerful enough (AMD phenomx x3 (not the II) 256mb GPU and 3gb of RAM).

Approximate Purchase Date: During the summer (july/august)

Budget Range: up to 900$ including taxes & shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video editing

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU

Preferred Website for Parts: NCIX as they can build it for me for 50$ and have price match, but I can buy elsewhere (in Canada)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe later on


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Here are the only parts I need, I will reuse my current HDD, DVD writer/player, speakers, mouse, keyboard and 2 monitors.

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
-I want a LGA1155 socket
-Is this a good motherboard, is there better for cheaper, is it too much for what I need?

CPU: Intel core-i7 2600/2600k/2700/2700k/3770
-The price of these varies but I was looking for the cheapest one I can get of these 4
-Do I need a core-i7 for video editing or should an i5 be enough?

RAM: 16gb G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (2x8gb)
-Does 1600mhz really have a difference with 1333mhz? I've read that it was insignificant, am I wrong?
- 2x8gb so I can expand later

GPU: GTX 550
-I don't mind the brand
-I will be using 2 monitors
-The more I read, the more I'm tempted to go for a GTX 560, which card should be the best for me?

Case: CoolerMaster Elite 350 w/ 500w power supply
-Any case with a 500w power supply works for me
-I've calculated numerous times, but 500w should be enough, right?


Thanks in advance for the answers! :) 

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May 29, 2012 8:20:25 PM

1: get ivy bridge. they are slightly faster.
2: you do not need a i7 to video edit but it will be much faster though. get the i7 3770k
3: get a cooler such as hyper 212 evo. you will need it for better temps and overclocking in the future
4: good z77 mobo (ivy bridge) is asrock extreme4. has all the features
5: 1600mhz is about 10% better than 1333. i recommend getting 4x4 kit becuase nobody really needs 32gb of ram even for video editing unless you building extrme pro systems. you can get some crucial ballistix sport 3x4 kit and buy 2 of them. they are lower profile

6: get the 560. it is almost 20% faster than 550ti. or yo can get a 6870 which is better than both of them
7:safer to go 500-550. check out this xfx power supply
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manu...
it is mde by seasonic=king of power supplies

goood case is antec one for your needs
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May 29, 2012 8:24:53 PM

Quote:

Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
-I want a LGA1155 socket
-Is this a good motherboard, is there better for cheaper, is it too much for what I need?


It's decent - go with a newer Z77 or H77 motherboard.

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CPU: Intel core-i7 2600/2600k/2700/2700k/3770
-The price of these varies but I was looking for the cheapest one I can get of these 4
-Do I need a core-i7 for video editing or should an i5 be enough?


I think an i5 would be plenty - you only need the i7 if you're running any high end video editing programs.

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-The more I read, the more I'm tempted to go for a GTX 560, which card should be the best for me?


I'd actually recommend going with a Radeon 7850 over a 560TI if you're going to be running any sort of multiple monitor configuration.

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Case: CoolerMaster Elite 350 w/ 500w power supply
-Any case with a 500w power supply works for me
-I've calculated numerous times, but 500w should be enough, right?


9 times out of 10 the cases with built in PSUs are garbage and likely to blow up on you. The rare exception is Antec and I'm told they actually include good PSUs with their cases. As far as the wattage goes 500W is usually the bare minimum, on a $900 build you should go higher but make sure that your PSU is certified and rated 80+ bronze or better and avoid junk manufacturers like Apevia, Raidmax, Diablotek, and so on.
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May 29, 2012 8:27:56 PM

He already listed an IB CPU. IMO, for video editing, OCing doesn't help too much.
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May 29, 2012 9:56:05 PM

Thanks guys for the quick replies!

Okay, so update: I don't think I will overclocko my CPU so I'll probably stick to the non-K version of the Intel CPU as they are much cheaper.

One thing, for motherboard I don't really understand what's better with one or another, apart from the number of slots and being SLI/CrossFireX ready.

Would this motherboard be good for me? MSI H77MA-G43

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

As I won't overclock my CPU I wouldn't absolutely need a Z77 chipset motherboard and I could stick to the H77?


CPU: i7 3770
Mobo: H77 chipset
Memory: 4x4gb 1600mhz
GPU: I'm still lost here, I need to go read which cards are better for their prices.
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May 29, 2012 10:10:17 PM

monocycliste said:
Thanks guys for the quick replies!

Okay, so update: I don't think I will overclocko my CPU so I'll probably stick to the non-K version of the Intel CPU as they are much cheaper.

One thing, for motherboard I don't really understand what's better with one or another, apart from the number of slots and being SLI/CrossFireX ready.

Would this motherboard be good for me? MSI H77MA-G43

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

As I won't overclock my CPU I wouldn't absolutely need a Z77 chipset motherboard and I could stick to the H77?


CPU: i7 3770
Mobo: H77 chipset
Memory: 4x4gb 1600mhz
GPU: I'm still lost here, I need to go read which cards are better for their prices.


If you're not going to overclock then H77 is perfectly fine.

However that board you selected is an mATX and I never recommend that if you're using a full desktop case because you forfeit so much in terms of expansion, try this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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May 29, 2012 10:13:49 PM

Sounds good to me.

As I want to keep my build under 900$, should I go for an i7 3770 with a GPU under 175$ or go with i5 3550 and get a really good GPU?

EDIT: I'm thinking going with i7 and cheaper Radeon card wtih crossfireX motherboard so I can later on buy a second graphic card.
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May 29, 2012 10:31:27 PM

monocycliste said:
Sounds good to me.

As I want to keep my build under 900$, should I go for an i7 3770 with a GPU under 175$ or go with i5 3550 and get a really good GPU?

EDIT: I'm thinking going with i7 and cheaper Radeon card wtih crossfireX motherboard so I can later on buy a second graphic card.


That depends more on what you will really use the system for more. If it's games go with the i5. If it's video editing go with the i7.
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May 29, 2012 11:04:37 PM

It's for video editing mostly (I play games from time to time, but it really isn't my main thing).

I was also reading about the AMD FX-8150 processor, people and AMD keep saying it's better than the i7 for creating h.264 files and video editing etc but the benchmarks I have been reading just tell me the i7 is always superior (even i5). Should I stick to Intel or switch to AMD?
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May 29, 2012 11:09:51 PM

AMD and i7 2600/k is about the same in workloads. i would go with intel just becuase it uses much less power and does better in other stuff (quicksync is awesome)
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May 29, 2012 11:12:00 PM

monocycliste said:
It's for video editing mostly (I play games from time to time, but it really isn't my main thing).

I was also reading about the AMD FX-8150 processor, people and AMD keep saying it's better than the i7 for creating h.264 files and video editing etc but the benchmarks I have been reading just tell me the i7 is always superior (even i5). Should I stick to Intel or switch to AMD?

:lol: 
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May 29, 2012 11:40:23 PM

Perfect, I'll stick to Intel.

Now for the GPU

Radeon HD 6850
or
GTX 560?
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Anonymous
May 29, 2012 11:48:45 PM

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I'd actually recommend going with a Radeon 7850 over a 560TI if you're going to be running any sort of multiple monitor configuration.


if you can stick with g-unit1111 recommendation, since he actually does video editing for a living, you may want to consider that.
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May 30, 2012 12:01:04 AM

Thanks for the input looniam.

One thing though, the 7850 is out of price for me, so I don't know where to go for a GPU.

I want to spend about 150$ for it, 175$ at top.
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May 30, 2012 12:19:52 AM

175$ can get you a 6870 in many occasions
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May 30, 2012 12:27:21 AM

does anyone here actually do any decent level video editing.

it really looks like this is the blind leading the blinder.
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May 30, 2012 12:32:06 AM

Well as I will just be buying my parts later this summer price may go down a bit and I may be able to afford a Radeon 7850. But thank you everyone for the help I know what I need and not need now.

I will probably create a new thread when I'm ready to buy the parts, thanks again!
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Anonymous
May 30, 2012 12:40:04 AM

glad to help, a little.
like i said g-unit1111 has a real 9-5 job vid editing . .pm him when you come back around!
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May 30, 2012 3:18:55 AM

I'll do that. I will probably be on the forums here and there just to be kept informed.

I just added all items needed on the NCIX website, used price match and got a total of 945$ including a new case and the build of my set-up by NCIX (including taxes, shippinng, handling and shipping insurences).

That makes me happy for this summer! Super powerful set-up that works with my budget :) 
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May 30, 2012 3:56:59 AM

monocycliste said:
Perfect, I'll stick to Intel.

Now for the GPU

Radeon HD 6850
or
GTX 560?



6850 can support more monitors and its built for watching movies, video editing and others. Nvidia is best good at gaming.

I have the 7850 myself its AWESOME for the price and I use for gaming and sometimes CAD software
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May 30, 2012 4:16:48 AM

Xlerator said:
6850 can support more monitors and its built for watching movies, video editing and others. Nvidia is best good at gaming.

I have the 7850 myself its AWESOME for the price and I use for gaming and sometimes CAD software

this is mostly incorrect. Nvidia normally is better for this type of thing because some programs utilize cuda which and doesn't have.
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Anonymous
May 30, 2012 4:26:21 AM

cbrunnem said:
this is mostly incorrect. Nvidia normally is better for this type of thing because some programs utilize cuda which and doesn't have.

hey n00b
1) cuda for encoding sucks.
2) the OP is encoding x.264 which doesn't use cuda.

and your the one that commented:
Quote:
does anyone here actually do any decent level video editing.

it really looks like this is the blind leading the blinder.


:lol: 
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May 30, 2012 10:52:43 AM

quicksync is faster than both CUDA or DirectCompute
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June 1, 2012 1:52:09 PM

Finally, I will be building my rig way sooner than I thought, at the end of this month :) 


How does this sound? Again it's for video editing mostly and I won't be overclocking.

Mobo: MSI Z77A-G43
CPU: i7 3770
GPU: Radeon 6850
RAM: 2 times 2x4gb crucial ballistix sport 1600mhz
PSu: XFX 650w 80+ bronze
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June 1, 2012 2:03:35 PM

graphics card. CUDA will be better for video editing although quicksync is faster
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Anonymous
June 1, 2012 2:29:02 PM

monocycliste said:
Finally, I will be building my rig way sooner than I thought, at the end of this month :) 


How does this sound? Again it's for video editing mostly and I won't be overclocking.

Mobo: MSI Z77A-G43
CPU: i7 3770
GPU: Radeon 6850
RAM: 2 times 2x4gb crucial ballistix sport 1600mhz
PSu: XFX 650w 80+ bronze

looking good except you really would benefit with 16 gig of RAM.
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June 1, 2012 7:04:49 PM

Anonymous said:
looking good except you really would benefit with 16 gig of RAM.


Yes, 4x4gb of crucial ballistix (they only sell 2x4gb at NCIX so I'm gettign 2x4gb twice).

Also, I will be getting a case since I will pay NCIX to build the system for me. I was thinking of the Coolermaster Elite 350 case, it's a mid ATX case, good enough?
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June 1, 2012 7:31:16 PM

nah. just go something like antec 302 or antec one
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Anonymous
June 1, 2012 7:34:44 PM

it might be a little cramped in there

you need to make sure the 6850 is no longer than 9", some are over 9.5".
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June 1, 2012 11:53:48 PM

im sure that the 302 has more space than that
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June 19, 2012 6:05:28 PM

cbrunnem said:
does anyone here actually do any decent level video editing.

it really looks like this is the blind leading the blinder.

Well, I do.

It's depressing to see like majority of the suggestions here does not really fit the 'video editing machine build' asked by OP.

First of all, QuickSync only helps with video transcoding. It's useless for video editing. While photo editing does benefit from some hardware acceleration via GPU, video editing is still about raw cpu power.

I assume OP is talking about professional level of video editing using non-linear methods with softwares like Adobe Premiere/Sony Vegas/Final Cut Pro (Mac), those sort of things.

From what I understand, the currently available video editing software will not benefit much from anything more than 4-cores (my info might be outdated, but prove me wrong). So, an i5 is good enough if budget is constrained. Big fast RAM, and fast hard disk drive will also help. If you have the budget, get a decent sized SSD for scratch disk purpose, it'll help speed up disk writing.

Graphics card will not help video editing directly, but it will help playbacks. I'd ditch the 6850 for a 7770 instead. Or if I just want a simple dual graphics probably a pair of 7750 or 6670.

In short, personally, I'd concentrate my budget on cpu/ram/hdd, which benefits video editing the most. Everything else is secondary. I'm not familiar with US tax/pricing so I couldn't suggest the parts.
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