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March 30, 2012 7:04:41 AM

Hi guys,

My current setup is kinda old and an upgrade is on the horizon :D 
Before deciding on any specifics...

1. I'd like to know if its worth getting another 6670 to crossfire or just go for a bigger meaner single gpu setup? Will 460W support it?
2. If its a single gpu you guys suggest, which one can I get without upgrading the psu?

I'll be using this for watching movies and gaming (not that hardcore, even upto med-high setting will do. Res: 1440x900)
Thanks!!

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March 30, 2012 10:21:19 AM

Get a AMD Radeon 7750
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2012 10:29:51 AM

budget?

system specs?

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a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2012 11:44:58 AM

^+1
What are the rest of your specs?
What is the brand/model of that 460W PSU?

Another HD 6670 doesn't seem really worth it. It's better you go for a better single card.

What is your budget?
March 30, 2012 12:24:08 PM

Hey thanks for the replies...
I haven't really decided on the system specs yet... just was wondering about the graphic card...
@Gman450 I guess you're right... might as well get single gpu.

The PSU is Coolermaster extreme power 460W.
My budget's approx $300-400. Maybe able to push it to $450 max.

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a c 290 U Graphics card
March 30, 2012 12:44:37 PM
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for $400 you could get hd7870 and a new power supply. Cooler master PSUs are crap.

Gigabyte HD 7870 - $359.99
Corsair CX500 - $39.99 after rebates.
a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2012 2:39:34 PM

ryandsouza said:

The PSU is Coolermaster extreme power 460W.
My budget's approx $300-400. Maybe able to push it to $450 max.

Yeah, upgrade the PSU. Coolermaster PSUs aren't really good.

For $400, I'd suggest you get the HD 7870 like Sunius said. But for 1440X900, that would be an overkill.

What are the rest of your specs?
Do you have a PC? Or are you building another one?
The CPU is quite as well important, and it'll help tell us whether the new GPU may be a bottleneck or not.
March 30, 2012 4:44:32 PM

Gman450 said:
Yeah, upgrade the PSU. Coolermaster PSUs aren't really good.

For $400, I'd suggest you get the HD 7870 like Sunius said. But for 1440X900, that would be an overkill.

What are the rest of your specs?
Do you have a PC? Or are you building another one?
The CPU is quite as well important, and it'll help tell us whether the new GPU may be a bottleneck or not.


I'm planning to build a new PC. I've not really decided on the CPU as I was hoping to recycle the PSU & grahpics and continue from there. But that plan's going out the window.
So I'm back to square one... With my budget, the $650 SMB system is looking good, since 7870 is overkill... (minus the case, ssd/hdds and optical drive of course :)  )

Would you suggest any changes to that?
a c 290 U Graphics card
March 30, 2012 5:32:13 PM

If you're building a new PC, HD7870 is not an overkill. It's a future proof card that will last you a long time. I wouldn't call that overkill.
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 4:02:29 AM

Sunius said:
If you're building a new PC, HD7870 is not an overkill. It's a future proof card that will last you a long time. I wouldn't call that overkill.

^Overkill at that resolution, unless the OP plans on upgrading the monitor to a 1080p one.
March 31, 2012 5:15:03 AM

Ok, here's the parts I've settled on. If there's any that won't work or improvements you guys can suggest please feel free!

CPU : Core i5 2400

MB: Asus H61-M PLUS

RAM: Corsair 4GB

Graphics: (Suggestions please!)

PSU: Should I recycle the CM 460W or go for a new one??

@Sunius & Gman450: I won't be upgrading my monitor. Well, at least not for quite a while so I guess it would be overkill.
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 5:22:59 AM

From the ones you've suggested, I'd go for a HD 6850, and a HD 6870 at max.
And yeah, it's best you get a better PSU. Coolermaster's elite series PSUs fall into a lower 'Tier' among good PSUs.

A Corsair CX 500W V2 PSU, should suffice you well enough.

HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You can get it for $125 after rebate.

HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$160 after rebate.

Corsair CX 500W V2 PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For $60 after rebate.

a c 290 U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 12:29:16 PM

HD6870 won't be able to max games at that resolution in 1.5 years, while HD7870 will. It's your choice.
March 31, 2012 1:41:22 PM

@Sunius Its ok... I'm fine with mid-high settings on games. Will the CPU bottleneck the HD7870?
a c 290 U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 1:47:35 PM

It won't. It's one of the most powerful CPUs in the world.
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 2:38:05 PM

Sunius said:
HD6870 won't be able to max games at that resolution in 1.5 years, while HD7870 will. It's your choice.

But at that resolution, you have to understand that the card might under perform.
a c 290 U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 3:12:45 PM

What are you talking about? :D  It won't underperform. It will have amazing performance.
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 5:39:15 PM

Sunius said:
What are you talking about? :D  It won't underperform. It will have amazing performance.

Using a HD 7870 for low resolutions is quite pointless really. At lower resolutions, the game becomes a bit more dependent on the CPU than on the GPU, which means less utilization.
For 1440X900, I wouldn't recommend anything above a HD 6870.
a c 290 U Graphics card
March 31, 2012 6:07:40 PM

Thing is, the whole cpu bottleneck thing is exaggerated. If it was right, quad SLI options would not work. Anyway, HD6870 hardly maxes titles like Crysis 2 (1440x900 is around same as 1280x1024):

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-2-directx-11...

And I believe that there will be no more than 3-4 titles like this in the next 6 months, however, as we advance in time, in 2 years, there will be loads of games like that. As I said, HD7870 is way more future-proof and will last a long time. If it fits your budget you should get it. Personally, when buying a graphics card, I would personally pay for a graphics card as much as my budget allows, as it's the most important part in the computer for gaming.
a b U Graphics card
April 1, 2012 3:19:08 AM

I didn't see the HD 6870 in that benchmark.
But this CPU bottleneck does exist in lower resolutions. If the OP wants to go for a HD 7870 (especially since his budget allows for it) then fine, he may do so.
a c 290 U Graphics card
April 1, 2012 6:20:16 AM

HD6870 should be just above gtx 460.
April 7, 2012 3:00:03 AM

Hey guys, sorry for not replying this long... work kept me busy, for once :p 

So here's the final decision. I would really like the HD7870 but Gman450, you're right, it doesn't fit my budget. So I think I'll hang on to the PSU and HD6670, upgrade the rest and then get the Corsair 500W and HD7870 when I have the dough....

Thanks guys for all your help!!
April 7, 2012 3:02:02 AM

Best answer selected by ryandsouza.
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