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$1000 PC Build +/- $200 Any suggestions for a noob?

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May 30, 2012 6:02:51 PM

I've been wanting to build my own PC for a while and I trust this community so here goes:

I saw this post on the Verge http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/19/2639968/how-to-build... and I like it but since hardware is always getting better and prices always changing I made changes to the build based on cpubenchmark.net according to my budget. I have no idea how builds work so I don't know if the changed parts are compatible so can anyone give me suggestions?

I wish to build the PC with a $1000 budget but if there are somewhat more expensive parts that would give me higher value per dollar I could squeeze out an extra $200 (all this is pre- taxes and shipping)

Original Build:
CPU: [INTEL CORE I5-2500K ($214.99)]
MOTHERBOARD: [ASUS P8P67 PRO REV 3.1]
GRAPHICS CARD: [GIGABYTE GTX 560 TI OC 900MHZ 1GB ($209.99)]
MEMORY: [8GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE CL9 DDR3-1600 RAM]
STORAGE: [SAMSUNG 64GB SSD 830 ($86.63)]
[WD CAVIAR BLUE 500GB 7200RPM HDD]
POWER SUPPLY: [CORSAIR ENTHUSIAST SERIES CMPSU-650TX]
CASE: FRACTAL [DESIGN CORE 3000]
OPTICAL DRIVE: [SAMSUNG SH-B123 12X BD-ROM DRIVE]

Changes:
Swap CPU for [AMD FX-8150 Eight-Core ($199.99)] or [Intel Core i5-3550 @ 3.30GHz ($209.99)]
Swap GPU for [GeForce GTX 480 ($219.99)]

Thank you all for your help. P.S. I also want to program with this PC but I guess a gaming PC can handle anything.
May 30, 2012 6:16:22 PM

For a $1200 build try this (avoid the FX-8150 on a gaming system):

Case: NZXT Phantom - $129.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 750W - $109.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H - $149.99
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - $249.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $33.99
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $99.99
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 - $42.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 Superclocked Edition - $419.99

Total: $1,249.81 - $20.00 MIR = $1,229.81
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May 30, 2012 6:21:10 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Apollo Black NP ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($98.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1251.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 14:23 EDT-0400)
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May 30, 2012 6:23:48 PM

Thank you for your quick reply. Wow the Phantom is gorgeous. Sorry can you explain the reason for spending twice as much on the GTX 670 when the 480 is already high end? Also I've been getting recommendations to put the OS on a separate SSD don't know your thoughts on this.
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May 30, 2012 6:31:30 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($98.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1054.67
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 14:42 EDT-0400)
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May 30, 2012 6:43:22 PM

navysheep said:
Thank you for your quick reply. Wow the Phantom is gorgeous. Sorry can you explain the reason for spending twice as much on the GTX 670 when the 480 is already high end? Also I've been getting recommendations to put the OS on a separate SSD don't know your thoughts on this.


The 480 is three generations old now and uses three times the power. The GTX 670 is one of the most energy efficient GPUs ever made and is destroying the competition in terms of benchmarks. Read more about it: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-rev...

On a gaming PC the GPU is the most important part of any build and it can make or break performance far more than any CPU, RAM or anything else can.

I'd actually skip the SSD right now - it's a good idea but I only recommend that on higher budgets that have a bit of breathing room. You can always add one later on after you get your system up and running.

I'd also *HEAVILY* advise against the aforementioned Hitachi HDs- I've used several of them and they have a much higher fail rate than anything Seagate or WD makes.
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May 30, 2012 6:44:46 PM

The GTX 480 is even beaten by the 7850 when OCed. If you OC a GTX 480, it will degrade much faster over time.
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May 30, 2012 6:50:13 PM

I am wavering between the 670 and the Radeon 7850 because it is $200 less and also have PCI Express 3.0. But of course I trust all of your opinions way more than mine. Ill definitely go with the 670 if you say its worth it.
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May 30, 2012 7:01:23 PM

navysheep said:
I am wavering between the 670 and the Radeon 7850 because it is $200 less and also have PCI Express 3.0. But of course I trust all of your opinions way more than mine. Ill definitely go with the 670 if you say its worth it.


Your wallet will be a bit lighter but it's way worth it. It will last you for several years longer than a 7850 will. I wish I could have bought one but they were just a bit too rich for my blood. :lol: 
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May 30, 2012 7:24:43 PM

Here is a list of parts that I am going with so far. I still can't decide Motherboard, PSU, and RAM. How can I choose the one best for me? Also choice of RAM isn't too important right?
CPU: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 ($189.99) Microcenter
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 Superclocked Edition ($419.99) newegg
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90) NCIX US
HHD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB ($109.99) newegg
Case: NZXT Phantom - ($129.99) newegg
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May 30, 2012 7:31:11 PM

RAM choice is important. The most reliable brands are Crucial, Kingston, Samsung (to an extent), Corsair, Mushkin, and G.SKill.
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May 30, 2012 7:36:20 PM

But all of you give me different choices. Since I am new to this, there is no way I can decide between them. How do I decide PSU and Motherboard other than base on your recommendations?
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May 30, 2012 7:44:04 PM

Check the amps on the 12v rail and see how much watts it comes to. If the watts meet or exceed the requirements of the GPU (you can check benchmarks for that), it is fine to use. Also look at brand and series quality.

For example, these are the PSU brands and series you should stick with:
Corsair TX/HX/AX/CX (CX is the least quality, but not too bad) series
Seasonic (anything by Seasonic is guaranteed top quality)
XFX (anything by XFX is guaranteed top quality)
Rosewill Capstone/HIVE/Green series
FSP Group Aurum series
Enermax

For motherboard, it is very simple. If OCing, look for Z68/B77/B75/Z75 chipsets (Z68 is only recommended for Sandy Bridge CPUs); if not OCing, look for H67/H77/H75 chipsets (H67 is only recommended for Sandy Bridge CPUs). Besides chipsets, look for # of fan headers, # of SATA II/III ports, # of Firewire/eSATA locations, and the quality of the heatsink system.
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May 30, 2012 8:09:59 PM

thank you guys so much I will do a bit more research and then order my parts right away!
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May 30, 2012 8:14:31 PM

if you really want to cut down on your build you can try to find a local Microcenter in driving distance,

here is what the main components would be(MOBO, CPU, and RAM)

CPU:i5 3570K - $189.99

RAM:Crucial 8GB DDR3-1600 - $39.99

MOBO:ASrock Z77 Extreme4 - $89.99


all you need to add is(listed from what is most important)

1) PSU (of course you need one, to power your system)
2)GPU (for gaming it is one of the highest priorities)
3)HDD (to store games and OS)
4)Dvd burner (even tho you can get by with a USB)
5)Case (to put in your things, but don't go over board with it)


optionals:
1)SSD (it will make the system faster but it is not necessary)
2) Aftermaket Heatsink ( you can get by without one but it is recommended you get one)
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May 31, 2012 10:28:34 PM

For ram i would only recommend the most reliable brands which are G.SKill, Kingston, Mushkin, and Crucial. P.S. Corsair, Patriot extreme are also good i prefer G.SKill myself :) 
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