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May 30, 2012 8:36:10 PM

Hello,


I own a stock Presario Here

I am planning to upgrade this. Like getting a new case but getting some supplies out of it.




Approximate Purchase Date: This WEEKEND.

Budget Range: $400

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming, Surfing the Internet.

Parts Not Required: Moniter, Keyboard, mouse.......don't know about case or OS yet?

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Microcenter, theres one 1/2 hour away from me.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Any

Overclocking: Don't Really care

SLI or Crossfire: Don't care

Monitor Resolution: 1366x768



PC Partpicker temp list, not exact products but similar for benchmarking or what not. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9aiA

Actual products from Microcenter:

Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61 mATX Intel Motherboard

Elite Mid Tower ATX Computer Case with 450 Watt Power Supply

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

ZT-40508-10L NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1024MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card



So is it good?

Can I take the HardDrive from the Old PC and use it in the new setup. I don't want to spend an extra $100 on a new OS.

if this can't be upgraded then let me know.

Thank You.
May 30, 2012 8:40:47 PM

Upgrade the GPU to a Radeon 7850 and buy a new PSU, like the XFX 550W. Your PSU is likely low quality. That leaves you around $70. You have to reformat the HDD or else the OS will not be usable.
May 30, 2012 10:43:15 PM

azeem40 said:
Upgrade the GPU to a Radeon 7850 and buy a new PSU, like the XFX 550W. Your PSU is likely low quality. That leaves you around $70. You have to reformat the HDD or else the OS will not be usable.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

How about that graphic card because buying the 7850 pushes me over like a $100. Also buying a new PSU pushes me over another $50.

Can You Please Clarify as how you meant I can have $70 left over.
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May 31, 2012 12:24:58 AM

Um, no it doesn't. The Sapphire 7850 is only $260 and the XFX 550W is $75. That equals $335.
May 31, 2012 1:11:32 AM

Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61 mATX Intel Motherboard
$54.99

Elite Mid Tower ATX Computer Case with 450 Watt Power Supply
$39.99

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)
$39.99

ZT-40508-10L NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1024MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card
$97.99

Total = 322.95

Which means you have $70 of play room in your budget as your build stands.



Here's my suggestions based on you not having to buy an OS...

You're absolutely right in buying the i3 and motherboard, those as far as I'm concerned are keepers.
Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61 mATX Intel Motherboard
$54.99

sub-total = 144.98

I'm not going to look for better RAM on that site, but $40 for 8Gb is pretty typical.

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)
$39.99

sub-total = 184.97


Where I do disagree is your choice of powersupply (and therefore the case) and the graphics card, which we have $215 to play with to get.

I recommend this Thermaltake case (no powersupply)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$37.99

The power supply is something I felt I kind of had to skimp out on for the sake of getting a better graphics card. It's not 80+ certified, but I would trust the cheapest thing Antec puts their logo on over the pride and joy of Diablotek's manufacturing and design.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$34.99

This 7770 is a heck of a deal right now. Pretty good buy in that price range.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$119.99

Which leaves $22.06 for tax!



I hope this helps, but if you have any questions please don't be afraid to ask!
May 31, 2012 1:16:39 AM

I would not upgrade the GPU to a GS 450. My option gives him more fps in games.
May 31, 2012 1:53:10 AM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61 mATX Intel Motherboard
$54.99

Elite Mid Tower ATX Computer Case with 450 Watt Power Supply
$39.99

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)
$39.99

ZT-40508-10L NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 1024MB GDDR3 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card
$97.99

Total = 322.95

Which means you have $70 of play room in your budget as your build stands.



Here's my suggestions based on you not having to buy an OS...

You're absolutely right in buying the i3 and motherboard, those as far as I'm concerned are keepers.
Core i3 2100 LGA 1155 3.1GHz Boxed Processor
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61 mATX Intel Motherboard
$54.99

sub-total = 144.98

I'm not going to look for better RAM on that site, but $40 for 8Gb is pretty typical.

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)
$39.99

sub-total = 184.97


Where I do disagree is your choice of powersupply (and therefore the case) and the graphics card, which we have $215 to play with to get.

I recommend this Thermaltake case (no powersupply)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$37.99

The power supply is something I felt I kind of had to skimp out on for the sake of getting a better graphics card. It's not 80+ certified, but I would trust the cheapest thing Antec puts their logo on over the pride and joy of Diablotek's manufacturing and design.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$34.99

This 7770 is a heck of a deal right now. Pretty good buy in that price range.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$119.99

Which leaves $22.06 for tax!



I hope this helps, but if you have any questions please don't be afraid to ask!


My God dude you are amazing man, I am probably going to with this build. You said to upgrade the power supply a bit. What would you recommend, I might be able to spend a bit more. My budget exactly is $430. Thats how much my next paycheck is. I plan to spend it all this saturday on upgrading my PC. My total is exactly $391 after Tax........$360 After Rebates.

By the way the 7770 graphics card actually ended up being cheaper then GTS 450 After Rebates.


Thank You So Much Man.
May 31, 2012 3:39:30 AM

His option is not going to give you any bonuses in gaming. The GPU is the most important component in a gaming PC. Sacrifice on it and get bad results.
May 31, 2012 4:09:17 AM

azeem40 said:
His option is not going to give you any bonuses in gaming. The GPU is the most important component in a gaming PC. Sacrifice on it and get bad results.



So you want me to keep all the old parts and just replace the graphics and psu. Whatabout the CPU or the MOBo?
May 31, 2012 4:38:00 AM

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His option is not going to give you any bonuses in gaming. The GPU is the most important component in a gaming PC. Sacrifice on it and get bad results.


Agreed, a 7850 is way more powerful than a 7770, but if you didn't look at the original specs, his computer has a Celeron 450. That is a massive performance bottleneck. it makes sense for him to spend the money to get the i3, and thus the motherboard as well. It also makes sense to get some decent RAM, though you could make the case that 4 Gb should be plenty. It still takes way too much out of his budget to get a 7850.

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What would you recommend, I might be able to spend a bit more.


One thing that I would like for you to consider is to save up a tad bit more, so that you could buy a better power supply AND graphics card. I don't know exactly what you plan to be playing, so I can't tell you where a good stopping point is in terms of power. But Azeem40 is very correct in saying that sacrificing the GPU will get bad results. For example if you could manage to spring some more cash to swing at the GPU you could get yourself a 6870, a 7850, or even a 670 and see drastic differences in the amount of detail and various eye-candy you can crank out in games. It will cost more, but depending on what you want, waiting a while and saving up may very well be the way to go.

All that being said, I still game on my GTX 460, which is very roughly equivalent to the 7770 in terms of capabilities and I still get along just fine. I can play even newer games on High detail (definitely not Ultra though lol) with low AA. Some games like Diablo III you will be able to almost max out with the 7770.

Really, it's all up to you. My personal recommendation? Explain what games you like to play, including what you would want to play now and what future releases you might be interested in as well as what quality you would like to play them at. From there me and whoever is following thread, can give you a better idea of what might suit your needs best.

If you decide that the 7770 was the way to go and were still interested in a better power supply, this would be one to look at...
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
Unfortunately, microcenter doesn't seem to stock 80+ rated power supplies with low wattage. So, this one is way overkill for what you need, but has that nice 80+ Bronze certificate and is made by a reliable company (others besides Antec include Corsair, XFX, Silverstone, PC Power & Cooling, etc;). The higher wattage would however give you better upgrade options down the line if you ever wanted to upgrade your graphics card though.

Quote:
Thank You So Much Man.


Lol, you're quite welcome. Also, I hope I didn't overload this comment with too much info or confuse you in any way. Just want to make sure you get the best you can for your money. These (relatively) low budget purchases can be kind of tricky to get the best bang for your buck and I just want to make sure you walk away with everything you wanted from it.
May 31, 2012 11:56:20 AM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
Quote:
His option is not going to give you any bonuses in gaming. The GPU is the most important component in a gaming PC. Sacrifice on it and get bad results.


Agreed, a 7850 is way more powerful than a 7770, but if you didn't look at the original specs, his computer has a Celeron 450. That is a massive performance bottleneck. it makes sense for him to spend the money to get the i3, and thus the motherboard as well. It also makes sense to get some decent RAM, though you could make the case that 4 Gb should be plenty. It still takes way too much out of his budget to get a 7850.

Quote:
What would you recommend, I might be able to spend a bit more.


One thing that I would like for you to consider is to save up a tad bit more, so that you could buy a better power supply AND graphics card. I don't know exactly what you plan to be playing, so I can't tell you where a good stopping point is in terms of power. But Azeem40 is very correct in saying that sacrificing the GPU will get bad results. For example if you could manage to spring some more cash to swing at the GPU you could get yourself a 6870, a 7850, or even a 670 and see drastic differences in the amount of detail and various eye-candy you can crank out in games. It will cost more, but depending on what you want, waiting a while and saving up may very well be the way to go.

All that being said, I still game on my GTX 460, which is very roughly equivalent to the 7770 in terms of capabilities and I still get along just fine. I can play even newer games on High detail (definitely not Ultra though lol) with low AA. Some games like Diablo III you will be able to almost max out with the 7770.

Really, it's all up to you. My personal recommendation? Explain what games you like to play, including what you would want to play now and what future releases you might be interested in as well as what quality you would like to play them at. From there me and whoever is following thread, can give you a better idea of what might suit your needs best.



Hmm, You know what I might just wait 2 more weeks and use the second paycheck on buying a new PC too or might just sell my tablet and use the funds from there. Many people have said to wait it out just a bit and get better equipment so you won't upgrade till the next summer.

Although I might be able to get my hands on my sisters Inspiron 560.

Its this one.


What will I need to upgrade on the inspiron in order for me to play what I need.

What I expect to play: BF3, a lot of 2010 games, Skyrim, and Guildwars 2 when it comes out.


June 1, 2012 1:01:43 AM

Quote:

Although I might be able to get my hands on my sisters Inspiron 560.

Its this one.


Short answer, no, don't do it. It really wouldn't make any considerable difference in your upgrade.


So, if you were wanting to do a new build, I would need a budget in order to give you a rough draft of the build.
June 1, 2012 4:18:17 AM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
Quote:

Although I might be able to get my hands on my sisters Inspiron 560.

Its this one.


Short answer, no, don't do it. It really wouldn't make any considerable difference in your upgrade.


So, if you were wanting to do a new build, I would need a budget in order to give you a rough draft of the build.



ou know it seems like it would be better to wait for the next paycheck and combine some from the second paycheck too. This will give me around $650. So That will be my new budget in 2 1/2 weeks.
June 1, 2012 4:54:33 AM

Almost forgot to ask, a $650 build assuming you keep the hard drive and don't have to purchase an OS, correct?
June 1, 2012 5:46:37 AM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
Almost forgot to ask, a $650 build assuming you keep the hard drive and don't have to purchase an OS, correct?



Only if its compatible. Keep in mind I am a student so I should be able to get 1/2 off the OS incase the HDD and OS aren't compatible.

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June 2, 2012 2:06:59 AM
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The hard drive will be compatible, that shouldn't be a problem at all. That being said then I'm just going to neglect the cost of a hard drive and OS :D 

i3 2100
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$54.99

Antec High Current Gamer Series 520W
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$59.99

Cooler Master HAF912 Mid Tower
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$59.99
- This is a great case by a great company at a great price. Good cooling, space and appearance. Sure it's more expensive than that Thermaltake case, but this is the face of your computer, make a statement. Besides, you deserve nice things lol.

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$39.99
- To my great disappointment, Microcenter doesn't seem to carry G.Skill products which are what I always recommend. There's nothing wrong with this set though and should suit your needs just fine at a good price.

HIS Radeon HD 7850 IceQ X
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$289.99
-And through this budget we have achieved our goal, a 7850! A truly great card, barely sips power compared to the performance it can put out. An all around great card.




I need to make one more recommendation to you though... that you consider getting these two parts instead...

ASRock Z77 Pro3
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$109.99

Core i5 3450 3.1GHz
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$149.99

This will essentially push you up to a $750-$800 build. I really, REALLY hate saying you should spend a little extra money for extra performance. because really, you could always just keep compounding on that to justify spending more. But in this case, I need to use that justification. You are just about $150 from upgrading from a budget motherboard, to a better quality full sized motherboard as well as going to a quad core ivy bridge CPU over the i3. Don't get me wrong, that $650 build will still more than get the job done. But, man, especially for online games and perhaps some future releases, that CPU especially will really help you out. If you can find it within your finances to justify spending just a bit more and don't mind waiting just a bit longer, I can promise you that it is a decision you won't regret.
June 2, 2012 12:34:24 PM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
The hard drive will be compatible, that shouldn't be a problem at all. That being said then I'm just going to neglect the cost of a hard drive and OS :D 

i3 2100
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$89.99

GA-H61M-DS2 LGA 1155 H61
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$54.99

Antec High Current Gamer Series 520W
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$59.99

Cooler Master HAF912 Mid Tower
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$59.99
- This is a great case by a great company at a great price. Good cooling, space and appearance. Sure it's more expensive than that Thermaltake case, but this is the face of your computer, make a statement. Besides, you deserve nice things lol.

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$39.99
- To my great disappointment, Microcenter doesn't seem to carry G.Skill products which are what I always recommend. There's nothing wrong with this set though and should suit your needs just fine at a good price.

HIS Radeon HD 7850 IceQ X
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$289.99
-And through this budget we have achieved our goal, a 7850! A truly great card, barely sips power compared to the performance it can put out. An all around great card.




I need to make one more recommendation to you though... that you consider getting these two parts instead...

ASRock Z77 Pro3
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$109.99

Core i5 3450 3.1GHz
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
$149.99

This will essentially push you up to a $750-$800 build. I really, REALLY hate saying you should spend a little extra money for extra performance. because really, you could always just keep compounding on that to justify spending more. But in this case, I need to use that justification. You are just about $150 from upgrading from a budget motherboard, to a better quality full sized motherboard as well as going to a quad core ivy bridge CPU over the i3. Don't get me wrong, that $650 build will still more than get the job done. But, man, especially for online games and perhaps some future releases, that CPU especially will really help you out. If you can find it within your finances to justify spending just a bit more and don't mind waiting just a bit longer, I can promise you that it is a decision you won't regret.



Wow Ty so much for doing this man, I am going to go with the above in 3-4 weeks. Gotta keep some cash in bank for emergency. Plan to use the next 2 checks for going for the above build.

Currently in process of selling my HP touchpad which I barely even use.

Thank You Much for doing this again.

June 3, 2012 2:37:29 AM

No problem man, I'm glad to help!

If you loved me you would vote this as best answer : )
June 3, 2012 3:05:09 AM

Best answer selected by pakisunny360.
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