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May 31, 2012 8:33:35 PM

This computer will be mainly for gaming. Other possibilities are spreadsheets and documents for work, and potentially excessive internet usage. :-P

I was on here a few months ago, but didn't end up following through on purchasing for various reasons. This is my new build idea. I've incorporated the new ivy bridge (as I was originally recommended to wait for anyway). Currently have only 1 video card, though made sure to have the capability for Crossfire just in case.

I want to keep it under $3,000. Would also like to save some of that money to purchase software (OS, games, office, etc.).

Will be running Windows 7 Pro 64.

Already have 1 monitor of the model below. Would prefer to get the same model for my second monitor (I have a thing about uniformity).

My current computer is an Alienware I bought new (before Dell bought them) back in 2002. I'd say I'm long overdue for a new computer.


Here's the specs I'm currently looking at:

Motherboard:
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor:
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL

Power Supply:
XFX ProSeries P1-1250-BEFX 1250W ATX12V V2.2 & ESP12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

ROM Drive:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Video Card:
HIS IceQ H795Q3G2M Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Hard drives (2 of these):
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Hard drive (for the OS):
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Case:
NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Monitor:
ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

Soundcard:
ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card

Speakers:
Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM


Looking for advice. Also unsure about soundcards (and maybe video cards). Would like extra advice there. :-)

Thanks for your guys' and gals' expertise!

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May 31, 2012 8:39:33 PM

I forgot to mention that I will be purchasing the components solely from newegg.

Thanks again.
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May 31, 2012 8:40:52 PM

Also, should I invest in more coolers, fans, etc?
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May 31, 2012 8:47:20 PM

well I would get a hyper 212 evo cooler, also knock down the psu to around 750w and knock down the ram to 8gb. Since you are only going to be gaming on a single monitor I would get a single 680. With these savings I would get a 240gb ssd(120 goes by fast) and take a look at the haf 932 case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Not saying the phantom is bad just saying the 932 has better cooling imo
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May 31, 2012 8:48:20 PM

are you building a bomb to play Hiroshima V2? Why do you have 4TB and a 128ssd? I get the ssd for gaming but 4TO? are you planning to store 200 1080p movies in there? if so a external hardrive would be more suited for security reason.

Btw you don't need 1250watts if you don't have a crossfire... too much power is like not enough.

You can play 2 battlefield 3 on ultra ultra with a 2000$ PC. Why 3000$?
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May 31, 2012 8:49:57 PM

rockodss said:
are you building a bomb to play Hiroshima V2? Why do you have 4TB and a 128ssd? I get the ssd for gaming but 4TO? are you planning to store 200 1080p movies in there? if so a external hardrive would be more suited for security reason.

Btw you don't need 1250watts if you don't have a crossfire... too much power is like not enough.

You can play 2 battlefield 3 on ultra ultra with a 2000$ PC. Why 3000$?

lol. I didn't even notice he said he's going to get 2x 2tb. That is insane.
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May 31, 2012 8:54:56 PM

Btw if you planning on OC that I5, inform yourself because I think the Ivy bridge are getting really hot when OC, you can get them to 4.0GHz max I think, I would go with a 2600k for OC or 2500k for saving, you can OC them to 4.4, 4.5GHz
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May 31, 2012 8:58:21 PM

rockodss said:
Btw if you planning on OC that I5, inform yourself because I think the Ivy bridge are getting really hot when OC, you can get them to 4.0GHz max I think, I would go with a 2600k for OC or 2500k for saving, you can OC them to 4.4, 4.5GHz
SB or ivy will become hot with stock cooling above 4.0ghz but if he gets a hyper 212 evo he'll be able to OC at around 4.2ghz no prob
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May 31, 2012 9:51:52 PM

It is actually 4.2 GHz where after they get hotter than normal.
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May 31, 2012 10:09:36 PM

azeem40 said:
It is actually 4.2 GHz where after they get hotter than normal.

well technically 4.2ghz ivy = 4.5ghz sandy roughly and either way since this is only a gaming build an extremely high OC wont be noticeable in your fps
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May 31, 2012 10:13:08 PM

Yes, I am aware it equal 4.5 GHz SB and that fps gains are minimal after that OC. :) 
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May 31, 2012 10:17:01 PM

azeem40 said:
Yes, I am aware it equal 4.5 GHz SB and that fps gains are minimal after that OC. :) 

oh wow I didn't see your agreeing with my previous post and I didn't even know it was you. sorry, you're the one I first saw say that too
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May 31, 2012 10:32:52 PM

Here's what I would get on a $3K build:

Case: NZXT Switch 810 - $169.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950W - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Pro - $319.99
CPU: 3.2GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $599.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Socket LGA 2011 Edition - $88.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 - $119.99
SSD: 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 - $149.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 670 FTW - $419.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99
Monitor: Samsung B550 - $399.99

Total: $2,748.98
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May 31, 2012 10:34:51 PM

Just because it is socket 2011 doesn't mean it is needed for gaming. Spending $ on LGA 2011 even at a high budget is stupid.
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June 1, 2012 1:43:36 AM

Definitely not my place to say one way or another, but below are some reasonings behind my decisions (many of which are things I was advised to switch to back in February).

$3,000 is the cap, because that's what my college graduation present from my parents was; "a $3,000 computer of my choice". If I save money, great, but $3,000 is what was originally allotted. And, I plan to spend some of that on some software (so that covers several hundred dollars there, too).

As I said, I was planning on doing crossfire using 2 of the video cards mentioned. I just wasn't sure if I should do it right away or not. The higher watt psu was to cover that as well as the potential of getting additional cooling units if you guys recommended it, which you have.

The use of up to 4Tb of space is a combination of effects. Primarily, and I forgot to mention it, I do quite a bit of personal work with music sequencing programs (Sonar, Sibelius, Finale, etc.) and those files take up a bit of space. Secondly, space for purchased movies, tv shows, music, etc. Yes I do have an external hd already, and if/when I go to move from my current computer to a new one, it's going to fill up quickly. Thirdly, given the direction that software and file sizes are going, coupled with the never ending accumulation of more files, 4Tb seemed to be the correct decision to "plan ahead". I would agree that space goes quickly (kinda the thought process I had for the 4Tb) so if you suggest a larger ssd, then I can definitely do that.

May I ask why the change from 16Gb of RAM to 8Gb? I realize it wouldn't be fully utilized as yet, because most graphically intensive things haven't fully delved into 8Gb yet, but I figured planning ahead with 16Gb would be fine, which is the whole reason I am getting Windows 7 Pro - 64bit, so that I can actually have access to anything above 8Gb.

I also did say I would be using 2 monitors, merely that I already have one and that the model listed is the same as I have and that I intend to get a second one of the same model.

It's strange that this is very much in a lot of ways the same build I had back in February (with the exception of upgrading cpu to ivy bridge, better mobo, and better video card, and a slightly higher psu to cover crossfire) and I'm getting very different advice than back then. It was people on here that, after hearing what I needed space for) recommended I actually upgrade to the 128 ssd for my os and 2 2Tb hd for space.
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June 1, 2012 2:11:07 AM

You did a very good job of clearing up some confusion...it's always best for us builders to know EXACTLY what your uses are, and the reasoning for your selection of parts...

A few worthwhile changes :
GPU:GTX 670. Better than 7950.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: You won't need more than 850w, even for sli/crossfire.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: Sabertooth unnecessary, expensive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 1, 2012 2:40:33 AM

Adjurer said:
Definitely not my place to say one way or another, but below are some reasonings behind my decisions (many of which are things I was advised to switch to back in February).

$3,000 is the cap, because that's what my college graduation present from my parents was; "a $3,000 computer of my choice". If I save money, great, but $3,000 is what was originally allotted. And, I plan to spend some of that on some software (so that covers several hundred dollars there, too).

As I said, I was planning on doing crossfire using 2 of the video cards mentioned. I just wasn't sure if I should do it right away or not. The higher watt psu was to cover that as well as the potential of getting additional cooling units if you guys recommended it, which you have.

The use of up to 4Tb of space is a combination of effects. Primarily, and I forgot to mention it, I do quite a bit of personal work with music sequencing programs (Sonar, Sibelius, Finale, etc.) and those files take up a bit of space. Secondly, space for purchased movies, tv shows, music, etc. Yes I do have an external hd already, and if/when I go to move from my current computer to a new one, it's going to fill up quickly. Thirdly, given the direction that software and file sizes are going, coupled with the never ending accumulation of more files, 4Tb seemed to be the correct decision to "plan ahead". I would agree that space goes quickly (kinda the thought process I had for the 4Tb) so if you suggest a larger ssd, then I can definitely do that.

May I ask why the change from 16Gb of RAM to 8Gb? I realize it wouldn't be fully utilized as yet, because most graphically intensive things haven't fully delved into 8Gb yet, but I figured planning ahead with 16Gb would be fine, which is the whole reason I am getting Windows 7 Pro - 64bit, so that I can actually have access to anything above 8Gb.

I also did say I would be using 2 monitors, merely that I already have one and that the model listed is the same as I have and that I intend to get a second one of the same model.

It's strange that this is very much in a lot of ways the same build I had back in February (with the exception of upgrading cpu to ivy bridge, better mobo, and better video card, and a slightly higher psu to cover crossfire) and I'm getting very different advice than back then. It was people on here that, after hearing what I needed space for) recommended I actually upgrade to the 128 ssd for my os and 2 2Tb hd for space.
I am aware that you said you will have 2 monitors but only one of those monitors would actually be used in game... Also, the psu is still crazy high even for 2x crossfire and yes I assume that you can plan ahead and get 16gb of ram but like you said most games haven't even utilized 8 yet so 16 is a while away, and i was trying to help you save money so you can spend on more software instead of parts that wont be utilized
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June 1, 2012 5:40:53 PM

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$3,000 is the cap, because that's what my college graduation present from my parents was; "a $3,000 computer of my choice". If I save money, great, but $3,000 is what was originally allotted. And, I plan to spend some of that on some software (so that covers several hundred dollars there, too).


With Ivy and Keppler you could buy an awesome computer for 1/2 the cost and still come out ahead, I priced all the components on my build and it came out to roughly $1500 and so far it's been mowing down any computer I've owned before it.

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As I said, I was planning on doing crossfire using 2 of the video cards mentioned. I just wasn't sure if I should do it right away or not. The higher watt psu was to cover that as well as the potential of getting additional cooling units if you guys recommended it, which you have.


The intent of a Crossfire / SLI setup is not to run two inferior cards - instead you get the best card you can for the money (in this case it's the 670 or 680) and then in about a year you can add a second one and not lose a step. I had an SLI setup involving 2 x 550TI and I vastly prefer my single 7870 to that card, I'll probably add a second but that won't be for at least a year.

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The use of up to 4Tb of space is a combination of effects. Primarily, and I forgot to mention it, I do quite a bit of personal work with music sequencing programs (Sonar, Sibelius, Finale, etc.) and those files take up a bit of space. Secondly, space for purchased movies, tv shows, music, etc. Yes I do have an external hd already, and if/when I go to move from my current computer to a new one, it's going to fill up quickly. Thirdly, given the direction that software and file sizes are going, coupled with the never ending accumulation of more files, 4Tb seemed to be the correct decision to "plan ahead". I would agree that space goes quickly (kinda the thought process I had for the 4Tb) so if you suggest a larger ssd, then I can definitely do that.


Yeah I have a large media collection as well and I understand how quickly most HDs fill up. But the nice thing with most modern cases - especially those from Antec, Cooler Master, and so on is that they make adding and removing new drives easily. I know HD prices are still horrendous with the floods in Thailand but they're slowly starting to come back down in price.

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May I ask why the change from 16Gb of RAM to 8Gb? I realize it wouldn't be fully utilized as yet, because most graphically intensive things haven't fully delved into 8Gb yet, but I figured planning ahead with 16Gb would be fine, which is the whole reason I am getting Windows 7 Pro - 64bit, so that I can actually have access to anything above 8Gb.


Any sort of editing programs will need the extra RAM, games won't. I like X79 on editing systems because it gives you the flexibility of working with more cores and higher RAM capacities. I really wanted X79 on my build but couldn't justify the high cost - even with the 3820.

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It's strange that this is very much in a lot of ways the same build I had back in February (with the exception of upgrading cpu to ivy bridge, better mobo, and better video card, and a slightly higher psu to cover crossfire) and I'm getting very different advice than back then. It was people on here that, after hearing what I needed space for) recommended I actually upgrade to the 128 ssd for my os and 2 2Tb hd for space.


That type of storage solution makes sense. If you have the SSD for your OS you can add and remove any drives you want without losing your data.
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June 1, 2012 6:54:42 PM

Alright, you guys are truly awesome. I'm definitely grateful for your help. I'm going to post the new spec, and see what you guys think from there. Perhaps you'll think of something else. No one said anything about soundcards. Did the one I chose pass the test? :-P


Motherboard:
MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

CPU:
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

RAM (1 of these now, instead of 2):
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL

PSU:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply

ROM:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Video card (2 OF THESE! Going straight for the SLI):
EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Harddrive (still 2 of these):
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD (should I stick with the 128 or bump to a 256?)(this is for the OS):
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Case:
NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Monitor:
ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

Soundcard (thoughts?):
ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card

Speakers:
Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers


Thanks for your help so far guys.
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June 1, 2012 6:58:56 PM

Adjurer said:
Alright, you guys are truly awesome. I'm definitely grateful for your help. I'm going to post the new spec, and see what you guys think from there. Perhaps you'll think of something else. No one said anything about soundcards. Did the one I chose pass the test? :-P


Motherboard:
MSI Z77A-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

CPU:
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

RAM (1 of these now, instead of 2):
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL

PSU:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply

ROM:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Video card (2 OF THESE! Going straight for the SLI):
EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Harddrive (still 2 of these):
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD (should I stick with the 128 or bump to a 256?)(this is for the OS):
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Case:
NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Monitor:
ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

Soundcard (thoughts?):
ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card

Speakers:
Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers


Thanks for your help so far guys.


That's an excellent build. The Xonar isn't needed (although I'm contemplating purchasing one for mine because Gigabtyte has a really finicky audio driver included with the UD3H) and the Phantom is an excellent choice for case. I'm not the biggest fan of MSI motherboards though, maybe try something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 1, 2012 7:09:35 PM

I had switched to the MSI mobo, because ismaeljrp had recommended it (and it was the first mobo change recommended).

Your mobo selection is about $40 more expensive. Is there worthwhile things that I'll get worth paying the extra $40 for the Gigabyte model? It has some good reviews as does the MSI. From there, it gets down the technical lingo in the details section and I'm a bit out of my depth there. I understand much of it, but would be hard pressed to validate one over the other.
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June 1, 2012 7:12:17 PM

My total is currently sitting at $2781 before tax, assuming I purchase all the warranties available.

I suppose that could be my next question. Warranties are good. But are they good for every component?

Secondly, since there's no sales tax in Oregon, do I get charged tax on online shipments? (That's probably a very stupid question, but I'm somewhat new to Oregon, so still learning me some intricacies.)
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June 1, 2012 10:48:59 PM

Adjurer said:
My total is currently sitting at $2781 before tax, assuming I purchase all the warranties available.

I suppose that could be my next question. Warranties are good. But are they good for every component?

Secondly, since there's no sales tax in Oregon, do I get charged tax on online shipments? (That's probably a very stupid question, but I'm somewhat new to Oregon, so still learning me some intricacies.)


1. Yes and the manufacturers have to honor them. Some stores *COUGH* Best Buy *COUGH* really hose you with their after market warranty system. Example - I went to go buy a blu ray player a few weeks ago and on a $75 player they wanted a $35 warranty - thanks but no thanks. There's some manufacturers that are great at honoring warranties (EVGA is one of them) and then there's some that have non existant tech support (Asrock for one thing...).

2. Good question and I live in CA so I can't answer that one.

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Your mobo selection is about $40 more expensive. Is there worthwhile things that I'll get worth paying the extra $40 for the Gigabyte model? It has some good reviews as does the MSI. From there, it gets down the technical lingo in the details section and I'm a bit out of my depth there. I understand much of it, but would be hard pressed to validate one over the other.


I've had better luck with Gigabyte than any other motherboard brand I've used and that includes Intel, Asrock, Asus and MSI. Both of my systems now use Gigabyte boards and they've turned out great. I realize that you may not need the features of the UD5H (like dual LAN) but it's there in case you do. But you shouldn't rely on just stores for product information - half the people complaining about things on Newegg are usually bad refunds and shipping errors - which have nothing to do with the product itself.
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June 1, 2012 10:55:43 PM

One quirk I have with my Gigabyte board is that I keep trying to update bios, but it never upgrades to TouchBIOS.
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June 2, 2012 12:46:47 AM

Still a noob in some respects. More information is needed for me. haha.

1) Inform me about dual LAN, please.

2) Inform me about TouchBIOS, please.


Also, I agree with the warranties, especially regarding Best Buy. I would, however, say that in some cases, their [Best Buy's] warranties are really good. For example, gaming systems. $700 for a system, $50 for the warranty. The warranty covers all wear and tear damage as well as accidental damage for the next 2-3 years, and they will flat out replace it, no questions asked. I agree that $35 for a $75 unit is a bit excessive, but my $700 ps3 came with a blu-ray player, so... ;-)
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June 2, 2012 12:49:28 AM

TouchBIOS can allow usage of the mouse to navigate through options.
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June 2, 2012 4:50:14 AM

So, did some searching into dual LAN. Not necessarily something I'll use. But, as you said, it's there if I want to.

I am changing to mobo to the:
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Simple reasons, though they might be uneducated. The gigabyte model has more USB 3.0 slots as well as more SATA slots all together. I believe things are headed more towards the USB 3.0, so having more slots for that is a bonus. Additionally, having more SATA slots of all sizes and speeds means more capabilities for extra hard drives in the future. :-)

So, my current spec is the previous one I posted except the Gigabyte mobo. Someone had said they thought I should increase the ssd from 128 to 256. Do you still recommend that, or not? Also, since I do a bit of music programming (composition and such), I wanted to go with a better soundcard. The Xonar seemed like a good choice.

How's the build look?
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June 2, 2012 7:08:42 PM

Bump? haha. Any news?
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June 2, 2012 7:56:13 PM

Adjurer said:
So, did some searching into dual LAN. Not necessarily something I'll use. But, as you said, it's there if I want to.

I am changing to mobo to the:
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Simple reasons, though they might be uneducated. The gigabyte model has more USB 3.0 slots as well as more SATA slots all together. I believe things are headed more towards the USB 3.0, so having more slots for that is a bonus. Additionally, having more SATA slots of all sizes and speeds means more capabilities for extra hard drives in the future. :-)

So, my current spec is the previous one I posted except the Gigabyte mobo. Someone had said they thought I should increase the ssd from 128 to 256. Do you still recommend that, or not? Also, since I do a bit of music programming (composition and such), I wanted to go with a better soundcard. The Xonar seemed like a good choice.

How's the build look?


Yeah that's a good choice for motherboard - it's a step up from the one I have. I have the UD3H and it's great but I don't like that it skimps on the SATA ports where the D3H does.
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June 2, 2012 11:13:58 PM

Yeah, the UD5H seems to have a lot of ports. I like it.

What's your thoughts about the ssd for 128 versus 256? Since it'll just be OS and other functionality type things, do I need 256 or is 128 fine? Games, pictures, videos, music etc will all go on the hdd's.

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June 2, 2012 11:39:27 PM

For just OS, 64GB is enough.
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June 3, 2012 12:06:21 AM

Hmmm, you think? That would save me a little money, I guess.
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June 3, 2012 12:14:17 AM

Yes. Win 7 Home Premium uses 20GB.
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June 3, 2012 12:31:22 AM

I'll be using Windows 7 Professional - 64bit. Not home. How big does that run?

Is there a smaller ssd you'd recommend then?
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June 3, 2012 12:58:52 AM

Adjurer said:
I'll be using Windows 7 Professional - 64bit. Not home. How big does that run?

Is there a smaller ssd you'd recommend then?


Pro will be better than Home Premium if you plan to run anything over 16GB of RAM or you have XP legacy drivers and programs to work with. For things like CS5, Pro is a far better OS than Home Premium or Ultimate is.
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June 3, 2012 1:04:55 AM

Yeah, the RAM is the whole reason I'm getting Pro, and I thought the Ultimate was extraneous and expensive. I hate that the tier of the OS determines the level at which your RAM is recognized and utilized. blah.

Anyway, should I jump down to the 64Gb ssd or stick with the 128Gb ssd?
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June 3, 2012 1:07:56 AM

With your budget, I wouldn't get less than a 128gb SSD.

ETA: I just installed a 120gb SSD with Win7, office, steam w/ 1 game and I am already down to 64gb/111gb. Moral of the story: Bigger is better if you can afford it.
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June 3, 2012 1:10:04 AM

Minimum hardware requirements for Windows 7[120] Architecture 32-bit 64-bit
Processor 1 GHz IA-32 processor 1 GHz x86-64 processor
Memory (RAM) 1 GB 2 GB
Graphics card DirectX 9 graphics processor with WDDM driver model 1.0
(Not absolutely necessary; only required for Aero)
HDD free space 16 GB of free disk space 20 GB of free disk space
Optical drive DVD-ROM drive[121] (Only to install from DVD-ROM media)
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June 3, 2012 1:33:20 AM

Heh. Stupid me, I didn't think about installing anything but the OS on the ssd. If I do OS, Office, and games, I'll need more room. haha. Perhaps I should go with the 256Gb ssd after all. ;-)

Anyone able to find a good one? haha.
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June 3, 2012 2:20:19 AM

Adjurer said:
Heh. Stupid me, I didn't think about installing anything but the OS on the ssd. If I do OS, Office, and games, I'll need more room. haha. Perhaps I should go with the 256Gb ssd after all. ;-)

Anyone able to find a good one? haha.

That depends on how many games you want to install on your SSD.
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June 3, 2012 5:09:14 AM

I'm somewhat keen on having any game I would potentially sit down to play (including old school games with LAN and/or online with friends {Diablo 1 party, anyone? haha}) always loaded onto my computer. In the past, I've been forced to keep my hard drive loaded with whatever game or two I've been playing at that particular time (my current computer is an Alienware built in 2002 and it came with a hard drive of 80Gb... huge back then......).

I have decided to upgrade to the 256Gb ssd. :-)

Here's the build. Last thoughts?

Mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU:
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL

PSU:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply

ROM:
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Video card (2 of these):
EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

HDD (2 of these):
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SSD:
Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Case:
NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Monitor:
ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

Soundcard:
ASUS Xonar DGX 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Gaming Audio Card

Speakers:
Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers

Cooler:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
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June 3, 2012 4:44:45 PM

First, I'm only purchasing from newegg.

Second, that is a mighty expensive set of speakers. Almost double the price of the set I have at the moment. Unless I get shown some hardcore evidence as to why that set is truly worth $150 whereas my current pick is only worth $90, then I'm inclined to stick with my current choice.

Third, I'm kinda stoked about the surround sound bit. That much more for a set that sticks with 2 satellites and a sub versus my choice of 5 sats and a sub.. am I paying for the brand name?

I'm trying to keep it under $3,000 and I already know I'm not going to be able to do that. Another $60 for the your speaker set will push me to $2,996 before taxes and shipping. Not necessarily an issue when you're spending this much money already, but I need validation for choosing a different set.

Speakers were something no one had spoken about yet, though, so you have me intrigued. I'm all ears!
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June 4, 2012 3:21:24 AM

Well if your only purchasing only from newegg then don't read the rest because newegg's selection of klipsch is very poor.
Klipsch offers some of the very best sound quality, logitech used to have some good speakers but I feel now-a-days most of their stuff is just mass marketed with cheap parts and that don't sound as good as they used to in the past. I actually own these klipsch speakers so I can tell you first hand how beautiful they sound, and if you like a strong bass you cant go wrong. The bass alone is rated at 130w (35W for each speaker) while the logitech set is rather at 75W (bass+speakers).

I'm not trying to tell you you need to get these or anything, just providing some constructive suggestions :) 
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June 4, 2012 2:39:50 PM

Hmmm... I'll have to think about the speakers then. Are there any middle tier brand (assuming klipsch is the top tier and logitech is bottom tier speaker setups that you would recommend? Something I might be able to find on newegg at least? haha.

Anyone else have anything at all to add about my potential final specs? Feels like it's getting close to purchase time. Excited!!!!!
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June 4, 2012 8:53:52 PM

Shameful bump. :-/
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June 4, 2012 9:15:06 PM

bavman said:
Well if your only purchasing only from newegg then don't read the rest because newegg's selection of klipsch is very poor.
Klipsch offers some of the very best sound quality, logitech used to have some good speakers but I feel now-a-days most of their stuff is just mass marketed with cheap parts and that don't sound as good as they used to in the past. I actually own these klipsch speakers so I can tell you first hand how beautiful they sound, and if you like a strong bass you cant go wrong. The bass alone is rated at 130w (35W for each speaker) while the logitech set is rather at 75W (bass+speakers).

I'm not trying to tell you you need to get these or anything, just providing some constructive suggestions :) 


My computer speakers that I have now are Klipsch and they are quite excellent quality, you can order them direct from the website: http://www.klipsch.com/promedia-2-1-computer-speakers
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June 5, 2012 2:03:41 AM

Perhaps I'll purchase the rest and think about the speakers for a couple weeks...

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June 6, 2012 5:33:47 AM

Best answer selected by Adjurer.
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