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CPU Building I need help i know nothing at all about computers!

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June 2, 2012 8:18:43 AM

Hey, my Husband I are creating a webseries, It's a Let's Play Webseries for a Video Game Channel on YT! I had a bet with my Husband Travis, That i could make a computer by myself (Well i consider this kinda by myself) So i have this really ancient computer I got from my Father's Attic! I need it to be able to record easily without lagging and all of that in the games we play like Diablo III, TC2 Beta, WoW, and Amnesia. Also i need to have this computer actually be able to run the games listed above! Um these are all the computer terms i know soooo....
The hardrive is 500g i believe
The Graphics card is a Radeon X1300/X1500 Series (I had to google how to find that out :/ )
The Processor is a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
With 2.0 G of Ram
That's all i know of computery stuff. Also, i would love if this was all very cost affordable so it looks as if i didnt just go out and buy a new computer and instead it looks like i actually refurbished a computer all by myself so i can rub it in his face. Please let me know!
I know its mainly going to be a new processor and a new graphics card i think... at least.

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 2, 2012 8:29:19 AM

We need to know the motherboard model. if its an AM2+ board you MIGHT be able to do something with it. If its an AM2 socket you're pretty much going to have to start from scratch.

Also need to know the PSU(power supply) model to see if it can handle new parts
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June 2, 2012 8:30:50 AM

unksol said:
We need to know the motherboard model. if its an AM2+ board you MIGHT be able to do something with it. If its an AM2 socket you're pretty much going to have to start from scratch.

Also need to know the PSU(power supply) model to see if it can handle new parts

Ok! How do i find out what motherboard model i have? and PSU?
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 2, 2012 8:33:17 AM

Something like CPU-Z will do great for finding out what motherboard you have.

Also, open your computer case and there should be some stickers on your power supply. Branding, wattage, and amperage ratings! :) 
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June 2, 2012 8:34:35 AM

think its actually going to be a socket 939 motherboard

can you run cpuz to get the model--under the motherboard section

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

its probably a 2ghz single core athlon

and may be an agp graphics card

chances are you cant upgrade it too much especially if its agp not pci-e

probably only to a dual core cpu about 2.2ghz to 2.4ghz

and something like a nvidia 6800 if its agp

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a b B Homebuilt system
June 2, 2012 8:39:30 AM

unksol said:
Also have a look at the info in this link. Number 4 is a step by step guide to building a PC so you can take a look and see if you're up to it. Its really pretty easy once you have the parts.

www.tomshardware.com/forum/288241-31-buyer-guides-troub...


I like to refer to building computers as "Adult Legos" :lol:  then again...Legos are fun at any age :na: 
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June 2, 2012 8:40:53 AM

Well my computer is a Compaq Presario 061 if that helps with anything haha :/  Im sorry if im not much help!
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June 2, 2012 8:46:00 AM

mocchan said:
I like to refer to building computers as "Adult Legos" :lol:  then again...Legos are fun at any age :na: 

I was never very good at legos :( 
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June 2, 2012 8:49:59 AM

If the system I posted above IS it, you're actually almost maxed out on the CPU. Socket AM2 up Athlon 64 3800+.
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June 2, 2012 8:54:19 AM

There doesn't appear to be a BIOS update for it, so if that's it, and the Athlon 64 3800+ is the best you can do, it's really not worth spending money on that part (since it's already a 3500+).
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June 2, 2012 8:57:14 AM

yep that would make it a socket 754

can you at least right click my computer and then properties to see the cpu details

should say if its socket 939 or 754 or am2
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June 2, 2012 8:58:38 AM

mcnumpty23 said:
problem is a lot of those models look the same

i think you have this model

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=5018...

you really need to run cpuz to tell us the motherboard

I downloaded it but it downloaded loads of other things as well im not sure what im suppose to do with like PDFCreator and Wajam etc.
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June 2, 2012 9:00:17 AM

think you downloaded the wrong thing

never mind heres how to get the model number on a compaq

While holding down the Ctrl and Alt keys, press the S key on the keyboard.
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June 2, 2012 9:03:05 AM

Ok the model # is SR1750NX!
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June 2, 2012 9:05:32 AM

that looks more like it

so its socket 939

4gb max memory

and pci-e graphics

so the most limiting factor will be the cpu
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June 2, 2012 9:08:06 AM

The Athlon 64 X2 4800+ would be a decent upgrade, but I'm still not sure it's worth it.
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June 2, 2012 9:09:26 AM

So um.... You guys Just got VERY computer jargony on me! I will just explain to you what i dont know... what do you mean by the most limiting factor is the CPU? um whats Socket 939? and i went to that link and Let's say i was looking into the matrix after i went down below processors haha... Im sorry :( 
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June 2, 2012 9:09:35 AM

so can stick a dual core in there

dont know if you can even find a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ nowadays

probably a 4600 would be easier to find

just need to figure out how high a graphics card it could run
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June 2, 2012 9:11:37 AM

Amanda_23 said:
So um.... You guys Just got VERY computer jargony on me! I will just explain to you what i dont know... what do you mean by the most limiting factor is the CPU? um whats Socket 939? and i went to that link and Let's say i was looking into the matrix after i went down below processors haha... Im sorry :( 



Socket 939 is the form factor of the motherboard cpu socket

that dictates which cpu you can run

when newer pcs come out they change the socket type--so you cant just put in the latest cpu in an older board
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June 2, 2012 9:13:52 AM

It's PCIe 1.0 from the info I can find.
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June 2, 2012 9:14:01 AM

Ohh ok Thank you! :D  You spoke some english to me kind of!
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June 2, 2012 9:15:13 AM

looks like its a 300w power supply

so its not going to take a hugely powerfull graphics card

will have to have a look about as cant remember the power consumption of older cards

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June 2, 2012 9:17:52 AM

The cost to performance of upgrading that is not going to justify itself. You would see more performance (and suitability to your needs) just getting a new cheap mobo/ram/GPU/CPU if you want it to look like you "refurbished" something just use the old case!

Intel i3 + H61 mobo + 8GB RAM + 550ti

or

AMD Phenom II + AM3+ board + 8GB RAM + 550ti

Both will enormously outperform anything you can do to that old rig for around the $300 mark
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June 2, 2012 9:18:19 AM

Is it possible to get a better power supply or no!?
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June 2, 2012 9:20:42 AM

wr6133 said:
The cost to performance of upgrading that is not going to justify itself. You would see more performance (and suitability to your needs) just getting a new cheap mobo/ram/GPU/CPU if you want it to look like you "refurbished" something just use the old case!

Intel i3 + H61 mobo + 8GB RAM + 550ti

or

AMD Phenom II + AM3+ board + 8GB RAM + 550ti

Both will enormously outperform anything you can do to that old rig for around the $300 mark


I definitely agree with this. It's what I meant about probably not really being worth it to upgrade what you have. Wasting money on something that won't be much better than what it currently is (at least for what you want to do with it, Amanda).
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June 2, 2012 9:21:18 AM

wr6133 said:
The cost to performance of upgrading that is not going to justify itself. You would see more performance (and suitability to your needs) just getting a new cheap mobo/ram/GPU/CPU if you want it to look like you "refurbished" something just use the old case!

Intel i3 + H61 mobo + 8GB RAM + 550ti

or

AMD Phenom II + AM3+ board + 8GB RAM + 550ti

Both will enormously outperform anything you can do to that old rig for around the $300 mark

I dont trust myself trying to putting a computer together from scratch :/  haha do you think if i went to local computer stores and gave them the parts they would put it together?
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 2, 2012 9:21:57 AM

I also agree with wr6133.

Also, Amanda, yes it's possible to get a new power supply :) 
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June 2, 2012 9:22:11 AM

yes can upgrade the psu--but thats more money spent

for a 4600 cpu and say a amd 4670 graphics card in the uk looking at about £70 or £80

best bet may be find a suitable donor pc on ebay

or as suggested a full upgrade

it always comes down to cash--how much did you want to spend?
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a b B Homebuilt system
June 2, 2012 9:23:48 AM

Amanda_23 said:
I dont trust myself trying to putting a computer together from scratch :/  haha do you think if i went to local computer stores and gave them the parts they would put it together?


I know Fry's does CPU installations..but I'm not sure about putting together an entire rig.

However, my Step-Mother put together an entire computer together due to my recommendations(Had to guide her through the phone)...and heck, she's very computer illiterate and she got it done :lol:  you can do it, Amanda!
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June 2, 2012 9:26:58 AM

Well I wanted to pull this off with 400$ to get the webseries going because im spending another 400$ on recording equipment, when we start posting videos we will kinda start making the money back in a week or so. I dont want to spend more than 400$ but i'd like it to be 300$ to 350$ in all honesty to be capable of doing the above things. My husband will be handling uploading and editing and have the hours of film on his computer. Mine will just have some filming going on!
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June 2, 2012 9:29:13 AM

mocchan said:
I know Fry's does CPU installations..but I'm not sure about putting together an entire rig.

However, my Step-Mother put together an entire computer together due to my recommendations(Had to guide her through the phone)...and heck, she's very computer illiterate and she got it done :lol:  you can do it, Amanda!

Haha Thank you for believing in me... I wish i had the same confidence!
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June 2, 2012 9:29:31 AM

if you have $400 then its not really worth upgrading that pc

re-use the hard drive if its got a 500gb--though it only shipped with a 200gb it might have been upgraded
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June 2, 2012 9:34:21 AM

$400 is about £260

the last second hand pc i got for a friend on ebay cost her about $175

and it was a really decent pc including a small flatscreen monitor

thats one option if you are not sure about building one or paying some one to do it

i made sure it was local and went to try it out before buying
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June 2, 2012 9:34:54 AM

So what are the parts that would be in the budget im shooting for that would achieve my goals?
AMD Phenom II + AM3+ board + 8GB RAM + 550ti
^ Is that it?
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June 2, 2012 9:39:01 AM

GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PNY VCGGTX550TVXPB GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $408.95 (you can claim another $45 back with mail in rebates)

Reuse the HDD, DVD drive and case of the old thing
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June 2, 2012 9:42:49 AM

Amanda_23 said:
So what are the parts that would be in the budget im shooting for that would achieve my goals?
AMD Phenom II + AM3+ board + 8GB RAM + 550ti
^ Is that it?

That would do pretty nicely, yes. My only concern there is the 550 Ti. That really has nothing to do with the recording part of it, but it depends on what resolution you're playing at and what quality settings you're using to tell if that GPU is up to snuff for smooth gameplay.
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June 2, 2012 9:43:25 AM

hmmk! 408$ seems nice!
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June 2, 2012 9:45:28 AM

what about the cost of windows disc?
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June 2, 2012 9:46:32 AM

soo My last question is how fast does this stuff usually come in since im guessing you guys have experience with Newegg?
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June 2, 2012 9:48:07 AM

mcnumpty23 said:
what about the cost of windows disc?


Very good point, sir. The OEM copy (even if you could use it with a new system) wouldn't work with a new system, anyway (would fail validation and can't reactivate it).
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June 2, 2012 9:48:12 AM

Mcnumpty makes a good point you need to add the cost of windows as well :( 

I can't comment on how fast newegg is I'm from the UK but many of the US users here use it and we don't see much in the way of complaints.
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June 2, 2012 9:49:17 AM

and its going to be 64bit as you have 8gb of ram there

do you qualify for a student version?
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June 2, 2012 9:51:18 AM

Hmm i had windows XP put on this computer for 35$ haha is there a specific windows i have to have?
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June 2, 2012 9:52:52 AM

it would be better to have windows 7 on the new hardware--may not be xp drivers

you need a 64bit version to use all the 8gb ram
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