Hey guys,
I'm new to the community and I'm preparing to build my own desktop in that I want a PC with gaming capabilities. I work in corporate IT and figure this process is overdue. I have some stipulations for what I am and am not willing to do. My biggest concern is figuring which hardware I need and whether or not everything will be compatible. I want it to be liquid cooled.
The purpose of this computer will be Star Wars: The Old Republic and some other PC games. I'll be using or partitioning multiple hard drives to learn and practice and test different operating systems. I will not be doing any rendering or graphics design or artistic editing. I will be using ram and reallocating when building multiple operating systems. Win7 will be the primary OS.
1. I am getting my parts from Amazon.com I have a confusing address and I have amazon Prime which ships to my work where I can use the tools at work for the build.
2.My budget is roughly $2000 but I also need that to account for buying a keyboard and 1080p monitor.
3. Part of me desperately wants to do liquid cooled. Please keep this in mind if and when some of you are kind enough to contribute to this thread or make a recommendation.
Tower Case
I think I want a tall case. Not because I'll have so many components but i'm terrible with wiring and will want the space. I think also if i decide to do liquid cooled i'll be glad I have the space. I do plan on putting in lighting and want at least some portion of it to be visible from the outside looking in. I'd venture to say the more the merrier but I don't think I want it to be completely clear acrylic, maybe just one side. I'm open to colors although most cases are black from what I've seen. I would also like to consider that fact the I probably will have a liquid cooling radiator housed in there as well.
Motherboard
Not sure what i should be looking for in a motherboard but i can tell you what my plans are to do with it. I will be getting a top of the line graphics card and I will be wanting one the new 3rd generation Ivy Bridge processors. The other day I saw a cool-looking black Asus motherboard. Getting a motherboard a color other than green would be great. I will mostly be using headphones so a fancy sound card is not in my future. I am considering a dual graphics cards but I hear that is a dying artform, I'll revisit this when I approach that section for hardware. I do also plan on hooking up to my monitor by HDMI.
I was eyeing one of the Asus sabertooths.
Processor
I am somewhat interested in getting one of the New Intel Ivy Bridge i7's but I know very little about processors and how they may or may not be able to exploit the power of my graphics card(s). Also what I see listed at Amazon has a lot of variations in price. Considering what I said above what type of processor will I need? Am I limiting myself by not going AMD? I expect to install a minimum of 8gbs of RAM. Dual graphics cards impacts what kind of motherboard I can use right? What about USB 3.0 and SATA III do i have any need for those? wil lthat affect what kind of motherboard and processor I will get.
Graphics Card
With regards to deciding on the aforementioned items am I crazy for being curious about having two graphics cards? I heard that it is being supported less and less each day. Is this a dying artform? What is everybody's take on this? What kind of card do I get? what do I need, how do they cooperate with liquid cooling? What about a dual graphics card liquid cooled system?
This is candidate to be my monitor or at least something close to this.
http://www.amazon.com/ML228H-21-5-Inch-Ultra-Thin-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B00413PHEQ/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1338653566&sr=1-7
I plan on running at 1080P when gaming in 1920x1080 resolution. With games set to high graphics.
Hard Drive(s)
Well, this is a multiple part question. Excluding additional OS' for now, I know a lot of people these days are installing their OS one hard drive and everything else on another. What are your guys' thoughts on this. What about RAID hard drives what are their advantages? I won't need a tremendous amount of space as I won't be storing media. If I go multiple hard drives which do I make solid state? What about RAID sata hybrids? How do raids work in regards to partitions and multiple OS'. I guess what I'm saying is, there are a lot of good and unique combos for this. I'm leaning towards doing something RAID. How does SATA III play into this?
Sound card
Simple, won't need 5.1 just microphone and headphones jacks.
RAM
I'm thinking 8gb's between my games and IT training. Is that too much? Too little? I would probably want to have colored sticks. Is ribjaw the way to go? Keeping mind the possibility of multiple OS' and RAM allocation (I do not plan on virtualizing or running multiple OS' concurrently).
Power Supply
I know nothing about this.
Optical Drive
A good reliable DVD drive is fine.
THE COOLING SYSTEM:
Here's the big one. Liquid cooling as if you could not already tell is really tweaking my curiosity. This is going to be the first computer I ever built and the process of water cooling is intimidating. Outside of the more difficult setup and possibilities of leaks isn't liquid cooling preferred? My biggest concern is the following: I feel as though I could get a pre-packaged liquid cooling system but I feel like that's the easy way out and it wouldn't cool as much to my liking espcially i customize the system as much i've mentioned with multiple HD's and possibly graphics cards. The flipside being that if I make one homemade it's considerably more difficult and no I don't own fish tank. Let's say I was going through with liquid cooling one way or another, what would be your suggestions? I would like as much possible of the system to remain inside the case.
What tools will I need for all of these things?
I very much look forward to hearing back from any and anyone. These forums came recommended from a friend who was in a similar position as me and said these forums guided him through the whole process and he has a great machine now. I'll take partial or full answers and anything in between. Amazon links to these items are especially welcome. I would like to try and include a nice 1080p monitor in the $2000 guideline budget. The desk I won't consider as part of the money I'm spending on this. What do you guys think?
PS: I live in Manhattan and will need to take the machine in a cab ride uptown (once) to get it back to my apartment.
I'm new to the community and I'm preparing to build my own desktop in that I want a PC with gaming capabilities. I work in corporate IT and figure this process is overdue. I have some stipulations for what I am and am not willing to do. My biggest concern is figuring which hardware I need and whether or not everything will be compatible. I want it to be liquid cooled.
The purpose of this computer will be Star Wars: The Old Republic and some other PC games. I'll be using or partitioning multiple hard drives to learn and practice and test different operating systems. I will not be doing any rendering or graphics design or artistic editing. I will be using ram and reallocating when building multiple operating systems. Win7 will be the primary OS.
1. I am getting my parts from Amazon.com I have a confusing address and I have amazon Prime which ships to my work where I can use the tools at work for the build.
2.My budget is roughly $2000 but I also need that to account for buying a keyboard and 1080p monitor.
3. Part of me desperately wants to do liquid cooled. Please keep this in mind if and when some of you are kind enough to contribute to this thread or make a recommendation.
Tower Case
I think I want a tall case. Not because I'll have so many components but i'm terrible with wiring and will want the space. I think also if i decide to do liquid cooled i'll be glad I have the space. I do plan on putting in lighting and want at least some portion of it to be visible from the outside looking in. I'd venture to say the more the merrier but I don't think I want it to be completely clear acrylic, maybe just one side. I'm open to colors although most cases are black from what I've seen. I would also like to consider that fact the I probably will have a liquid cooling radiator housed in there as well.
Motherboard
Not sure what i should be looking for in a motherboard but i can tell you what my plans are to do with it. I will be getting a top of the line graphics card and I will be wanting one the new 3rd generation Ivy Bridge processors. The other day I saw a cool-looking black Asus motherboard. Getting a motherboard a color other than green would be great. I will mostly be using headphones so a fancy sound card is not in my future. I am considering a dual graphics cards but I hear that is a dying artform, I'll revisit this when I approach that section for hardware. I do also plan on hooking up to my monitor by HDMI.
I was eyeing one of the Asus sabertooths.
Processor
I am somewhat interested in getting one of the New Intel Ivy Bridge i7's but I know very little about processors and how they may or may not be able to exploit the power of my graphics card(s). Also what I see listed at Amazon has a lot of variations in price. Considering what I said above what type of processor will I need? Am I limiting myself by not going AMD? I expect to install a minimum of 8gbs of RAM. Dual graphics cards impacts what kind of motherboard I can use right? What about USB 3.0 and SATA III do i have any need for those? wil lthat affect what kind of motherboard and processor I will get.
Graphics Card
With regards to deciding on the aforementioned items am I crazy for being curious about having two graphics cards? I heard that it is being supported less and less each day. Is this a dying artform? What is everybody's take on this? What kind of card do I get? what do I need, how do they cooperate with liquid cooling? What about a dual graphics card liquid cooled system?
This is candidate to be my monitor or at least something close to this.
http://www.amazon.com/ML228H-21-5-Inch-Ultra-Thin-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B00413PHEQ/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1338653566&sr=1-7
I plan on running at 1080P when gaming in 1920x1080 resolution. With games set to high graphics.
Hard Drive(s)
Well, this is a multiple part question. Excluding additional OS' for now, I know a lot of people these days are installing their OS one hard drive and everything else on another. What are your guys' thoughts on this. What about RAID hard drives what are their advantages? I won't need a tremendous amount of space as I won't be storing media. If I go multiple hard drives which do I make solid state? What about RAID sata hybrids? How do raids work in regards to partitions and multiple OS'. I guess what I'm saying is, there are a lot of good and unique combos for this. I'm leaning towards doing something RAID. How does SATA III play into this?
Sound card
Simple, won't need 5.1 just microphone and headphones jacks.
RAM
I'm thinking 8gb's between my games and IT training. Is that too much? Too little? I would probably want to have colored sticks. Is ribjaw the way to go? Keeping mind the possibility of multiple OS' and RAM allocation (I do not plan on virtualizing or running multiple OS' concurrently).
Power Supply
I know nothing about this.
Optical Drive
A good reliable DVD drive is fine.
THE COOLING SYSTEM:
Here's the big one. Liquid cooling as if you could not already tell is really tweaking my curiosity. This is going to be the first computer I ever built and the process of water cooling is intimidating. Outside of the more difficult setup and possibilities of leaks isn't liquid cooling preferred? My biggest concern is the following: I feel as though I could get a pre-packaged liquid cooling system but I feel like that's the easy way out and it wouldn't cool as much to my liking espcially i customize the system as much i've mentioned with multiple HD's and possibly graphics cards. The flipside being that if I make one homemade it's considerably more difficult and no I don't own fish tank. Let's say I was going through with liquid cooling one way or another, what would be your suggestions? I would like as much possible of the system to remain inside the case.
What tools will I need for all of these things?
I very much look forward to hearing back from any and anyone. These forums came recommended from a friend who was in a similar position as me and said these forums guided him through the whole process and he has a great machine now. I'll take partial or full answers and anything in between. Amazon links to these items are especially welcome. I would like to try and include a nice 1080p monitor in the $2000 guideline budget. The desk I won't consider as part of the money I'm spending on this. What do you guys think?
PS: I live in Manhattan and will need to take the machine in a cab ride uptown (once) to get it back to my apartment.