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September 30, 2012 12:06:26 AM

Hey everyone.

I'm trying to decide which processor would be the best cheap processor for gaming + occasional video editing + occasional video capture. I'm on a really really tight budget, so keep that in mind, and I also live in Canada, so there's that to keep in mind as well.

Here's a list of the rest of my desktop specs:
- NVIDIA GT 520 1GB GDDR3
- 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
- 350W PSU


I realize that this is a very long list of processors that I've listed, but I just simply don't know which of these performs best for the money. I keep hearing that the Phenom II X4 965 BE is one of the best budget gaming processors out there, but I've also heard that the Pentium G-series processors are really good budget gaming processors as well. The

- Intel Pentium G620 Dual-Core CPU @ 2.6GHz (3MB L3 Cache) - $59.99 + tax
- AMD Athlon II X3 450 Triple-Core CPU @ 3.2GHz (1.5MB L2 Cache) - $64.98 + tax
- Intel Pentium G630 Dual-Core CPU @ 2.7GHz (3MB L3 Cache) - $64.99 + tax
- Intel Pentium G640 Dual-Core CPU @ 2.8GHz (3MB L3 Cache) - $74.06 + tax
- Intel Pentium G840 Dual-Core CPU @ 2.8GHz (3MB L3 Cache) - $79.88 + tax
- AMD Athlon II X3 460 Triple-Core CPU @ 3.40GHZ (1.5MB L2 Cache) - $79.98 + tax
- Intel Pentium G850 Dual-Core CPU @ 2.9GHz (3MB L3 Cache) - $79.99 + tax
- Intel Pentium G860 Dual-Core CPU @ 3GHz (3MB Cache) - $84.98
- AMD A6-3670K Quad-Core Unlocked APU @ 2.7GHz (4MB L2 Cache) - $84.99 + tax
- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU @ 3.4GHz (8MB Cache) - $89.99 + tax
September 30, 2012 12:25:28 AM

Do you have a budget? Tell us so we might have a better option for you. And, do you have any preferred website to buy your CPU?
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September 30, 2012 12:28:09 AM

What is your current CPU? Upgrading your GPU may give you more of a performance boost as ANY of those CPU's in the list will be bottlenecked by the GT520.
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September 30, 2012 12:42:22 AM

mocchan said:
What is your current CPU? Upgrading your GPU may give you more of a performance boost as ANY of those CPU's in the list will be bottlenecked by the GT520.


What I'm actually trying to do is I'm trying to build a budget gaming desktop out of parts that my friend is letting me borrow and out of parts I'm buying.

My friend is letting me use his old graphics card, power supply, and case for my desktop. I'm trying to build a desktop that will perform similar to what my friends desktop performed at. His desktop consisted of an Intel Core i5-2320, 1GB NVIDIA GT 520, 6GB DDR3 RAM, 350W PSU. Right now, I need to buy myself a processor, motherboard, and RAM.

Do any of the processors I listed even come close to the performance of the i5 that my friend has in his desktop? How much of a drop in FPS (on average) will I see if I'm comparing the Phenom II X4 965 BE to the Intel Core i5-2320?
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September 30, 2012 12:50:04 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
Do you have a budget? Tell us so we might have a better option for you. And, do you have any preferred website to buy your CPU?


I need a processor, RAM, a hard drive and a motherboard. I would like my system to last me at least half a year without needing to upgrade or replace parts. I would like my system to be somewhat up-gradable, which is why I'm going for either AM3/AM3+ or LGA1155. I would like my motherboard to be from a name brand, like ASUS, or MSI, or Gigabyte, and I would like it to be compatible with 125W CPU's, and I would like it to have two PCI-E X16 slots, even though I know it's not completely necessary. My budget is $250-$275.
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September 30, 2012 12:58:40 AM

Here's a list of parts I've chosen so far.

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core @ 3.4GHz
Price - $99.99 ($10 Discount)
From - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=46281&promoid=1210

Motherboard - MSI 970A-G46 Socket AM3+ Motherboard
Price - $84.99 ($10 Mail-In Rebate)
From - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

RAM - G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600MHz RAM
Price - $46.99
From - http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

Hard Drive - TBA (I don't want a huge hard drive, only because the only thing that I'm going to have on it is the OS, so I'm trying to look for the cheapest (but good) say... 100GB HDD out there.)

I wanted an aftermarket CPU cooler, specifically the Cooler Master V6GT Cooler, since I know where to get one for about $40 right now, but that's only if I can afford it in this build.
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September 30, 2012 1:00:54 AM

firinmylazerman said:
I need a processor, RAM, a hard drive and a motherboard. I would like my system to last me at least half a year without needing to upgrade or replace parts. I would like my system to be somewhat up-gradable, which is why I'm going for either AM3/AM3+ or LGA1155. I would like my motherboard to be from a name brand, like ASUS, or MSI, or Gigabyte, and I would like it to be compatible with 125W CPU's, and I would like it to have two PCI-E X16 slots, even though I know it's not completely necessary. My budget is $250-$275.


Ok. Got it. Take a look at this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($126.97 @ CompUSA)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.66 @ NCIX US)
Total: $282.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its $7 more than your budget, but its worth it for the 6 core processor, which its ideal for video editing since its CPU very intensive. Also the motherboard have 2 PCIE x16 slots, and its only $70. And sorry for no direct link for individual item.
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September 30, 2012 1:08:34 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
Ok. Got it. Take a look at this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/iU3c/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($126.97 @ CompUSA)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.66 @ NCIX US)
Total: $282.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Its $7 more than your budget, but its worth it for the 6 core processor, which its ideal for video editing since its CPU very intensive. Also the motherboard have 2 PCIE x16 slots, and its only $70. And sorry for no direct link for individual item.


Hmm... Interesting :)  I live in Canada though :p 
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September 30, 2012 1:12:33 AM

firinmylazerman said:
Hmm... Interesting :)  I live in Canada though :p 


OH, forgot about that, let me do that again.
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September 30, 2012 1:28:26 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
OH, forgot about that, let me do that again.


Shoot, I just realized that the OS I'm using is a 32-bit OS (Windows 7 Professional 32-bit x86)

Will there be a significant drop in performance in games if I'm only using 2.6GB - 2.8GB of RAM vs. using 4GB or 8GB?

Is there an easy way to bypass the 32-bit limitation perhaps?
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September 30, 2012 1:29:40 AM

The games are 32Bits as well!
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September 30, 2012 1:39:40 AM

amuffin said:
The games are 32Bits as well!


Yes, I realize that :p  I just mean that even if I install 8GB of RAM into my system, my system will only recognize just under 3GB of it, due to the 32-bit limitation, which could possibly be a problem if games or programs require more than 3GB of RAM.
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September 30, 2012 2:07:58 AM

Okay, so how well do you think this desktop build will run games like Skyrim, NFS: The Run, CoD (MW3, Black Ops), NFS: SHIFT 2 Unleashed, etc?

- MSI 970A-G46 AM3/AM3+ Motherboard
- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Quad-Core 3.4GHz
- 2.8GB DDR3 RAM of sorts (since I don't have a 64-bit OS right now)
- ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 1GB GDDR3
- WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM HDD
- 350W PSU
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September 30, 2012 2:10:19 AM

firinmylazerman said:
Shoot, I just realized that the OS I'm using is a 32-bit OS (Windows 7 Professional 32-bit x86)

Will there be a significant drop in performance in games if I'm only using 2.6GB - 2.8GB of RAM vs. using 4GB or 8GB?

Is there an easy way to bypass the 32-bit limitation perhaps?


Sorry for late reply. Well, if you want to buy an OS, that's about $100 more. I would buy it later as your budget doesn't allows it. And get 4 GB of RAM for now as you have a 32 bit operating system.

Anyways, I have corrected the part for you (sorry for mistake lol):

CPU:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65385&vpn=HDT45TWFGRBO...

RAM (get 4GB for now due to your OS, get another pair when you get a 64 bit OS):
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

MOBO:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

HDD:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&m...

Total: $296.96

Is it too expensive for you? But the 6 core processor is worth it.
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September 30, 2012 2:29:17 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
Sorry for late reply. Well, if you want to buy an OS, that's about $100 more. I would buy it later as your budget doesn't allows it. And get 4 GB of RAM for now as you have a 32 bit operating system.

Anyways, I have corrected the part for you (sorry for mistake lol):

CPU:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=65385&vpn=HDT45TWFGRBO...

RAM (get 4GB for now due to your OS, get another pair when you get a 64 bit OS):
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

MOBO:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

HDD:
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&m...

Total: $296.96

Is it too expensive for you? But the 6 core processor is worth it.


I'm going to be doing more gaming than video editing, so is the AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2.7GHz going to be any better than the Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4GHz when it comes to gaming? I mean, I know the X6 will perform much better when video editing and encoding and such, but I'm a little more concerned on how the X6 will do in comparison to the X4 when gaming :p 
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September 30, 2012 2:38:39 AM

firinmylazerman said:
I'm going to be doing more gaming than video editing, so is the AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2.7GHz going to be any better than the Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4GHz when it comes to gaming? I mean, I know the X6 will perform much better when video editing and encoding and such, but I'm a little more concerned on how the X6 will do in comparison to the X4 when gaming :p 


If you mostly do gaming, the X6 won't be alot better than the X4. Most games really use 2 cores. You might see like a few FPS difference when using a 6 core vs a 4 core processor. If you don't do video editing that much, the X4 would be a better choice, also cheaper.
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September 30, 2012 2:42:51 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
If you mostly do gaming, the X6 won't be alot better than the X4. Most games really use 2 cores. You might see like a few FPS difference when using a 6 core vs a 4 core processor. If you don't do video editing that much, the X4 would be a better choice, also cheaper.


I would love to be able to say that I have a six-core CPU in my system :p  but for an extra $50, it just doesn't seem worth it knowing that the X4 965 BE will be just as good of a CPU for gaming. Maybe I'll buy an X6 in the future :) 
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September 30, 2012 2:55:14 AM

firinmylazerman said:
I would love to be able to say that I have a six-core CPU in my system :p  but for an extra $50, it just doesn't seem worth it knowing that the X4 965 BE will be just as good of a CPU for gaming. Maybe I'll buy an X6 in the future :) 


It's up to you. Did you mentioned that you need a cooler? You can probably get one of those, lots of people like it, and it's $35. Might as well add it to your list.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

I don't really know which one is better, you be the judge.
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September 30, 2012 4:21:32 AM

ipwn3r456 said:
It's up to you. Did you mentioned that you need a cooler? You can probably get one of those, lots of people like it, and it's $35. Might as well add it to your list.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

I don't really know which one is better, you be the judge.

The EVO is slightly better because the base is full contact, and entirely flat. This means there aren't any gaps like the 212+ has, so it results in better contact between the CPU and base of the heatsink.
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