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June 3, 2012 6:13:52 PM

I plan on spending my graduation money on a new computer for college next year. This would be my first build so I welcome any feedback or suggestions.
I plan to use it for school (majoring in Computer Science), gaming (BF3, Minecraft, Skyrim), and heavy general usage. My budget is $1200 and this wishlist, when the cpu and mobo, and the psu and ram are comboed comes to $1156.68
Thanks for the help.
secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=27346268
a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2012 6:31:39 PM

What will you be using it for when it comes to CS?
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June 3, 2012 6:47:47 PM

Don't know yet. Just figured it was a better justification for spending this money than minecraft :) 
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June 3, 2012 7:09:41 PM

You have some good components there, however I would make a few changes, but this is just my opinion.

1.) Do not get the Sandy Bridge-E, unless you are doing lots of CPU intensive tasks, even in CS there are not that many, so I would go with this CPU and MOBO or another MOBO similar

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2.) With those I would upgrade your GPU from a 570 to a 670, you will get more out of it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 3, 2012 7:31:33 PM

Yeah, I was pretty sure I was skimping on the GPU. I went with the LGA 2011 socket because I figured it had the longest upgrade path and I like to hang on to my computers (I'm getting this to replace my Optiplex G260 that just broke last month). Of course that meant I had to spend more on the motherboard.
I consider your suggestion, thanks.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2012 9:17:09 PM

^+1

Check out my $1100 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Switch the 7870 for a GTX 670 and you'll be more than solid.

The i5 3570K is a more than good enough chip for even intensive CS apps, after overclocking it's especially good. The board I list will be good enough, your budget should be concentrated between your GPU and CPU, PSU is somewhat up there but a 650w as suggested by Nvidia is enough for SLI 670 if you plan to. Also the board I recommend is Z68 however it is a solid one. With Gen3 you have PCI 3.0 support and with Z77 has really nothing new that'll change or deviate from Z68.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2012 9:28:49 PM

You are wasting IB on a Z68. Show me where it says Z68 will utilize all of IB's features. How are you so sure that a Z68 board is going to allow full saturation of PCIe 3.0 when cards do start to saturate it?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2012 9:51:24 PM

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Corsair Carbide Series 300R Mid-Tower Gaming Case - CC-9011014-WW

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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply - CMPSU-750TXV2

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ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

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COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

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G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

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GTX 670 2GB

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G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAO

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a b 4 Gaming
June 3, 2012 10:00:35 PM

Because by the time we saturate PCI 3.0, it'll be Haswell or another platform that people are going to most likely upgrade to. Azeem why don't you actually back up your accusations for a change? I'm tired of providing plenty of sources while you pull your 1 sentence statements.

Show me where Z77 has edge on Z68? I want benchmarks. I've seen them and they're exactly the same in performance. The only difference is native PCI 3.0 and native USB 3.0 controller. Both of which Z68 have just not native to the chipset.
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June 4, 2012 3:44:45 PM

Best answer selected by devon64327.
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a b 4 Gaming
June 4, 2012 6:30:10 PM

"The Asus P67 and Z68 motherboards which advertise PCI-E 3.0 bus speeds are not true 3.0 spec, they are simply links that have their speeds increased to 8GT/s bus speeds."
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a b 4 Gaming
June 4, 2012 6:38:40 PM

Also, from the ASUS website on one of their Z77 boards:
"The latest PCI Express bus standard delivers improved encoding for twice the performance of current PCIe 2.0. Total bandwidth for a x16 link reaches a maximum of 32GB/s, double the 16GB/s of PCIe 2.0 (in x16 mode). PCIe 3.0 provides users unprecedented data speeds, combined with the convenience and seamless transition offered by complete backward compatibility with PCIe 1.0 and PCIe 2.0 devices. It’s a must-have feature for PC users aiming to improve and optimize graphics performance, as well as have the latest, most future-proof technology."

From the Z68:
PCI Express® 3.0

PCI Express® 3.0 (PCIe 3.0) is the latest PCI Express bus standard with improved encoding schemes that provide twice the performance of current PCIe 2.0. Total bandwidth for a x16 link reaches a maximum of 32GB/s, double the 16GB/s of PCIe 2.0 (in x16 mode). As such, PCIe 3.0 provides users unprecedented data speeds, combined with the convenience and seamless transition offered by complete backward compatibility with PCIe 1.0 and PCIe 2.0 devices. PCIe 3.0 will become a must-have feature for users who wish to improve and optimize graphic performance, as well as have the latest technology available to them.
*Actual PCIe 3.0 speed varies with the installed CPU type.".

The bolded part is the icing on the cake.

Why would both boards advertise PCIe 3.0 speeds?
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a b 4 Gaming
June 4, 2012 11:44:36 PM

Both do advertise the same specs. THE INSTALLED CPU means that SB doesn't get Gen3 support and IB does. SMH.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1188376/hardwarecanucks-hd-7...
Boom, X79 board with ability to disable PCI 3.0. 0 effect on performance practically.
Conclusion was: "The results couldn’t be any clearer: the HD 7970 doesn’t benefit in any way from a PCI-E 3.0 link to the CPU."
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