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April 5, 2012 1:54:02 PM

Ello,

Building my own Rig soon and im looking for a GPU that is relatively cheap but can run games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3 and the likes on Ultra.

Any contributions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Joe :) 
April 5, 2012 1:57:38 PM

ive been asking the same question aswell,
heres what i got, either a gtx560ti(non-reference) or (HD 78** Series).
P.s these are as long as its not a hugh resolution you going for. Even at this you wont get BF3 on Ultra
a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2012 1:58:28 PM

Battlefield kind of also depends on a good CPU. Multi cored CPU.
What's your budget for the GPU?
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April 5, 2012 2:01:44 PM

What's the resolution you'll be playing on? Could you also tell us about your whole build? We'll check if it's balanced :)  Also please tell your budget.
April 5, 2012 2:05:14 PM

Errm, not made my build yet :p .

Going for:

i5 2500k
1920X1020 RES
8gb Ram

will get a decent mobo, psu etc :) 

Budget £150 - £200
April 5, 2012 2:12:04 PM

better with a GTX 560Ti by the look of it, you can get a 448 core for £185 from ebuyer i think or a EVGA GTX 560Ti '448' Classified edition from overclockers for £211
April 5, 2012 2:15:11 PM

Thanks, a friend told me that the 7850 is good, is there much difference between the two? he mentioned something about more memory in one :S. I'm a bit of a noob at this kinda stuff
April 5, 2012 2:18:40 PM

Thanks. Heard a lot of good things about Sapphire I can get their OC version for £189.00. Do they OC it to the max or can I OC even further?
April 5, 2012 2:20:07 PM

joeyboy123 said:
Thanks, a friend told me that the 7850 is good, is there much difference between the two? he mentioned something about more memory in one :S. I'm a bit of a noob at this kinda stuff

Likewise lol, from the benchmarks ive found of the GTX 560Ti vs HD 7850 they vary depending on what resolution you have them in like for BF3 on ultra with 1920x1080 the HD 7850 gets 54fps but the GTX 560Ti gets 48fps...to be honest thats BS i have the EVGA 560Ti Superclocked DS edition and i used to get around 55-68 fps depending on the location and firefights but it only went under 45 when i was using fraps.

Heres the benchmark list

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-7870-review-ben...
April 5, 2012 2:21:20 PM

joeyboy123 said:
Ello,

Building my own Rig soon and im looking for a GPU that is relatively cheap but can run games like Skyrim, Battlefield 3 and the likes on Ultra.

Any contributions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks


Joe :) 


Either the 7850 or wait for the Nvidia mid range 600s GPU. Chance are that 7850 will either drop in price and/or perform slower then then Nvidia.
April 5, 2012 2:23:20 PM

I could stretch for the 7870 but I'm struggling on how much difference there will be in performance for an extra £70 here in the UK. That's my main concern. I would look to possibly CF 2 7850's in the future.
April 5, 2012 2:25:02 PM

venur said:
Either the 7850 or wait for the Nvidia mid range 600s GPU. Chance are that 7850 will either drop in price and/or perform slower then then Nvidia.



Any idea on when the Nvidia ones will be out?? i'm looking to build in a few weeks.
April 5, 2012 2:27:36 PM

joeyboy123 said:
I could stretch for the 7870 but I'm struggling on how much difference there will be in performance for an extra £70 here in the UK. That's my main concern. I would look to possibly CF 2 7850's in the future.

Well im about to buy a 7870 they are BEASTS look on youtube at some video's they are really good
April 5, 2012 2:31:01 PM

hellfire24 said:
7870 is best bang for the IMO.for $350~it performs(and even beats)gtx 580.it's a good card.it may not be able to hold 60+ fps in BF3 ultra settings but will hardly drop to 30~35.anything at 40 or more fps is very playable-
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...



+1
April 5, 2012 2:42:37 PM

Trev8987 said:
ive been asking the same question aswell,
heres what i got, either a gtx560ti(non-reference) or (HD 78** Series).
P.s these are as long as its not a hugh resolution you going for. Even at this you wont get BF3 on Ultra


Forgive me for being a noob but what is non-reference? Does that mean the SC, SCC and FTW editions? If so does that mean its a waste of the extra money to get these card when you could do the overclocking yourself?
April 5, 2012 2:44:19 PM

So with the 7870 I noticed that it gets 23 FPS on say Metro on Ultra settings but this is with 2560X900 display will it run with more FPS on 1920X1020?
April 5, 2012 2:52:52 PM

7870 for the win!
April 5, 2012 3:15:08 PM

BF3 on ULTRA, 1920 x 1080 with reasonable FPS (50-60 average)

you will need a good cpu, and bare minimum of 7950 or GTX 580, but preferable 7970 or even GTX 680



I know this because it wouldn't come close to running on ultra on my 6950, and now with my GTX 590 I average 70 FPS.

It's one of the most demanding games to date.
April 5, 2012 3:21:28 PM

Hey, thanks. However I was looking on Youtube and I found this video if you go to 1.04 it shows him playing BF 3 on Ultra with 1920X1020. It runs fine he gets around 45-50 FPS he does have an i7 2600k but i'm getting an i5 2500k surely it will run on ultra with a 7870?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtcLIv190E


Do you think you might of overlooked the 78** series? Or am I missing something here?

Thanks


Joe :) 
April 5, 2012 3:31:18 PM

jk47 said:
BF3 on ULTRA, 1920 x 1080 with reasonable FPS (50-60 average)

you will need a good cpu, and bare minimum of 7950 or GTX 580, but preferable 7970 or even GTX 680



I know this because it wouldn't come close to running on ultra on my 6950, and now with my GTX 590 I average 70 FPS.

It's one of the most demanding games to date.



Hey, thanks. However I was looking on Youtube and I found this video if you go to 1.04 it shows him playing BF 3 on Ultra with 1920X1020 with a 7850. It runs fine he gets around 45-50 FPS he does have an i7 2600k but i'm getting an i5 2500k surely it will run on ultra with a 7870?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtcLIv190E


Do you think you might of overlooked the 78** series? Or am I missing something here?

Thanks


Joe
April 5, 2012 3:39:54 PM

nupe123 said:
Forgive me for being a noob but what is non-reference? Does that mean the SC, SCC and FTW editions? If so does that mean its a waste of the extra money to get these card when you could do the overclocking yourself?


non reference bascially means that a card (eg. Nvidia Gtx560Ti) is taken and Overclocked/tweaked by different companys to make it better, they then stick there brand label on it, (eg. ASUS Gtx560ti DirectCuii), thats basically ASUS beefing up that card and rebranding it. hope this helps.
April 5, 2012 9:13:12 PM

joeyboy123 said:
Hey, thanks. However I was looking on Youtube and I found this video if you go to 1.04 it shows him playing BF 3 on Ultra with 1920X1020 with a 7850. It runs fine he gets around 45-50 FPS he does have an i7 2600k but i'm getting an i5 2500k surely it will run on ultra with a 7870?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYtcLIv190E


Do you think you might of overlooked the 78** series? Or am I missing something here?

Thanks


Joe



Interesting video, and good to see his card works well for him.

One to thing to consider with that video, is he is playing in Team Deathmatch mode. That makes the maps between 75-90% smaller than usual (conquest mode). I get much better frames when playing Team Deathmatch, perhaps because some of the load is taken off the processor. If he were playing a larger map FPS might drop a lot.

Another thing to consider, it's risky to depend on overclocking your card. Sometimes cards don't overclock well, and can even reduce performance when overclocked, if per say, AMD's power throttling kicked in and caused stutters. (I had this problem when OCing my last 6950) anyways, you shouldn't expect to get the same OC results this guy has. Plus if you do, you'll lose peace of mind worrying about the card's temperature.

My personal policy is to never depend on OC for getting the performance I want.




I just found this too, here are some benchmarks for BF3
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5625?cPage=15&all=F...

The 7850 averages 32.1 on Ultra 1920 X 1080. 30-40 FPS is unplayable IMO.
April 5, 2012 9:30:58 PM

XFX has a new oced 7850 that is based on the 7870 pcb and has the same cooler as the 7870. I really like the cooler they use and the card looks very nice. Theres a reveiw on fuzilla .
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26587-xfx-black-dd-ra....
I have the power color 7870pcs+ and have had 0 issues with it. I got it the day 12.3 ccc came out. Mine runs around 40c at higher over clock than what it was originally set at while gaming. Idles at 38c and its 88 degrees in my house right now in the desert in arizona.
It was 96 in the house the other day card was running around 42c while playing rift in a raid
April 5, 2012 9:33:20 PM

jk47 said:
Interesting video, and good to see his card works well for him.

One to thing to consider with that video, is he is playing in Team Deathmatch mode. That makes the maps between 75-90% smaller than usual (conquest mode). I get much better frames when playing Team Deathmatch, perhaps because some of the load is taken off the processor. If he were playing a larger map FPS might drop a lot.

Another thing to consider, it's risky to depend on overclocking your card. Sometimes cards don't overclock well, and can even reduce performance when overclocked, if per say, AMD's power throttling kicked in and caused stutters. (I had this problem when OCing my last 6950) anyways, you shouldn't expect to get the same OC results this guy has. Plus if you do, you'll lose peace of mind worrying about the card's temperature.

My personal policy is to never depend on OC for getting the performance I want.




I just found this too, here are some benchmarks for BF3
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5625?cPage=15&all=F...

The 7850 averages 32.1 on Ultra 1920 X 1080. 30-40 FPS is unplayable IMO.


Thanks this is really useful. So if I got the 7870 hopefully I could oc to get that 2 FPS difference as it hit 38.2 at stock even though you wouldnt depend on it maybe a tiny tweek wont make to much of a big deal.. Damn I wish I could afford a better GPU. I will crossfire in the future :) 
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April 5, 2012 9:34:57 PM

jk47 said:
I just found this too, here are some benchmarks for BF3
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5625?cPage=15&all=F...

The 7850 averages 32.1 on Ultra 1920 X 1080. 30-40 FPS is unplayable IMO.

But 48 fps with FXAA - looks no different than 4xMSAA in full HD IMO.

HD 7850 is undeniably the best option within your budget.
a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2012 9:45:07 PM

Keep in mind the vram guys.... Some are able to run Multiplayer off a single 560 ti with Ultra but i run out of Vram so make sure he gets a card with maybe 1.2 so a 448 core or a 2GB card is the best option for him.......
April 5, 2012 9:49:14 PM

I was thinking of getting the hd 7850 it has a 2gb. Guessing this is good for FPS?
April 5, 2012 9:53:52 PM

Rockdpm said:
Keep in mind the vram guys.... Some are able to run Multiplayer off a single 560 ti with Ultra but i run out of Vram so make sure he gets a card with maybe 1.2 so a 448 core or a 2GB card is the best option for him.......



Here is the one Im thinking of, good price I think

http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-ati-ra...
April 5, 2012 10:00:39 PM

I dont get why half of the websites say the GTX 580 and 570 is better than the AMD 7870 when the other half say the 7870 competes and wins in most things against the GTX 580 and completely wastes the GTX 570
April 5, 2012 10:01:59 PM

jk47 said:
Interesting video, and good to see his card works well for him.

One to thing to consider with that video, is he is playing in Team Deathmatch mode. That makes the maps between 75-90% smaller than usual (conquest mode). I get much better frames when playing Team Deathmatch, perhaps because some of the load is taken off the processor. If he were playing a larger map FPS might drop a lot.

Another thing to consider, it's risky to depend on overclocking your card. Sometimes cards don't overclock well, and can even reduce performance when overclocked, if per say, AMD's power throttling kicked in and caused stutters. (I had this problem when OCing my last 6950) anyways, you shouldn't expect to get the same OC results this guy has. Plus if you do, you'll lose peace of mind worrying about the card's temperature.

My personal policy is to never depend on OC for getting the performance I want.




I just found this too, here are some benchmarks for BF3
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index/5625?cPage=15&all=F...

The 7850 averages 32.1 on Ultra 1920 X 1080. 30-40 FPS is unplayable IMO.


Thanks this is really helpful thank you. I see the 7870 on ultra hits 38.2 which is decent I guess?!! I just cant afford a more expensive GPU :( . If i get a 7870 a minor oc might make ot playable
April 5, 2012 10:08:42 PM

if you try to run BF3 on ultra u better turn down the AA if u dont have a 680 or 7970. set it to 2x and u should be able to get some decent frames.
April 5, 2012 10:10:12 PM

Will it still look good does the AA make much difference??
April 5, 2012 10:15:23 PM

joeyboy123 said:
Will it still look good does the AA make much difference??

Yup quite alot in my opinion looks ok without msaa but when you turn it on things start to look ALOT better
April 5, 2012 10:17:41 PM

Awww damn why cant i afford a better one?!!?!?? :( 
April 5, 2012 10:43:11 PM

venur said:
Either the 7850 or wait for the Nvidia mid range 600s GPU. Chance are that 7850 will either drop in price and/or perform slower then then Nvidia.

actully the real 680 has been downed and is being called the 780 thats why it was said to have the power of 3 580s then all of a sudden barley keeps up with the 7970
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