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June 3, 2012 3:14:25 PM

Hello everyone
I am getting ready to build a new PC
I am new at it and would really appreciate all the help
i can get.

There are 4 crucial questions that i really need answers to

1. What kind and how many SATA cables would i need for this build?

2.What would be the best bios settings for 2 Western Digital RE4 1TB
For gaming and storage?

3. Will a 1000 watt power supply do?

I am planning to add a OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 Max IOPS 960GB PCI E SSD
later down the line.

4.Would my build make good use of this PCI E SSD Take full advantage?


This is what i have for my build as of now:


Mother Board: GIGABYTE G1 SNIPER 2 LGA 1155

CPU: INTEL i7 3770K Ivy Bridge LGA 1155

Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 4X8GB 32GB

1 X Graphics Card: Asus GTX 690

2 X HDD: Western Digital RE4 1TB

2X Disk Drives: ASUS internal Blu-ray Burner

OS: WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE



PLANNING TO GET:

PCI- E SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWER SUPPLY: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AGAIN MY QUESTION IS:



1. Which and how many SATA Cables will i need?

2. What settings in bios would get best performance out of my hard drives?
for gaming and backup?

3. Will the PCI-E SSD i will buy later on do any good in my build or would my build
not take full advantage of it.

4.Will the 1000W power supply be enough for my build before and after i add the PCI E SSD?

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June 3, 2012 3:22:47 PM

1--the cables will come with the motherboard

2--ahci in bios for hard drives

3--pci-e ssd may not give any great advantage over a normal ssd for desktop use--normally used in servers etc

4-- 1000w is major overkill both before a pci-e ssd and after
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June 3, 2012 3:46:57 PM

well what if i wanted to add 2 Asus gtx 690s? would a 1000 watt power supply still
be overkill?

Wouldn't a 1000 w power supply be ideal for what ever i throw at my motherboard kinda making the power supply future proof for my board?

My motherboard only has two PCI E slots by the way

I have lots of games for PC and would really like to get the best performance
in both speeds and storage space.

Only a PCI E SSD can provide optimal read and write speeds with a capacity of 1 TB storage.

Problem is that i do not know if it will work as fast with my build
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June 3, 2012 3:54:52 PM

for 2 gtx690 then yes you would need a 1000w psu

you must have a very high budget as those components will cost an arm and a leg
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June 3, 2012 4:01:44 PM

That i know
I have already lost and arm XD

So would the 1000 W be future proof for my motherboard?

And would my build take full advantage of the PCI E SSD?

Would my CPU or overall build allow the PCI E SSD to work
at its full READ AND WRITE potential?

I would not want to get a bottleneck affect with the PCI E SSD if
my build was not high end enough to run it
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June 3, 2012 4:18:44 PM

for 2 x gtx690 and futureproofing maybe 1100w or 1200w

Would my CPU or overall build allow the PCI E SSD to work
at its full READ AND WRITE potential?

dont see why not--but not 100% sure--you would need to read up on that

but one issue with that pci-e ssd is that although ocz say it supports trim--it doesnt actually work and unless microsoft

address that then you will get no trim support

just the thought of 3 grand on an pci-e ssd makes me feel its just not necessary on a desktop pc

just cant see it making much real world difference from a 512gb 6gbs ssd--benchmarks yes--but actual use dont think so

and its about 6 times the cost of a 512gb ssd
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June 3, 2012 4:28:40 PM

MeNoLikeConsoles said:
1. What kind and how many SATA cables would i need for this build?


You need 4 SATA cables. One for each of your hard drives and 1 for each of your Blu-ray burners. Your motherboard comes with 4 SATA cables, so you don’t need to buy anymore.


2.What would be the best bios settings for 2 Western Digital RE4 1TB
For gaming and storage? said:
2.What would be the best bios settings for 2 Western Digital RE4 1TB
For gaming and storage?


The ports your drives are connected to should be in AHCI mode.
Connect your drives to the Intel ports. It doesn’t matter if you connect them to the 6Gb/s ports or the 3Gb/s ports. If you plan on getting a SATA 3 SSD (not PCIe SSD) in the future then connect the drives to the 3Gb/s ports.

3. Will a 1000 watt power supply do? said:
3. Will a 1000 watt power supply do?


As mcnumpty23 stated, a 1,000 watt is overkill. If you have the disposable income to get one then go for it, otherwise any 550-700 watt power supply will do.

Since you’re willing to spend for a 1,000 watt power supply, if you instead decide to get one in the 550-700 watt range, get one that is "80 Plus Platinum Certified".
80 Plus Platinum Certified power supplies are the highest quality, and most energy efficient. Here’s a link to some: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...


4.Would my build make good use of this PCI E SSD Take full advantage? said:
4.Would my build make good use of this PCI E SSD Take full advantage?


Yes. Connect the SSD to slot PCIEX8.
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June 3, 2012 4:54:54 PM

MeNoLikeConsoles said:
well what if i wanted to add 2 Asus gtx 690s? would a 1000 watt power supply still
be overkill?


If you want 2 GTX 690s then in addition to the 1,000 power supply you should get a different motherboard as well.
The G1.Sniper 2 has 2 PCIe x16 slots, and when both slots are populated they run at x8.
Your PCIe SSD would have to connected to 1 of the remaining PCIe x1 slots and would not Read/Write at advertised speeds.

Get the G1.Sniper 3 motherboard instead. It has 4 PCIe x16 slots.
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June 3, 2012 5:28:12 PM

Great answers guys

So a 550 - 700 watt power supply for
future proofing my motherboard at full specs?

I know that 1000 cost to much but i just want to get one power
supply that would power up anything i choose to throw at the mother board later on.
Basically the one power supply that i will ever need

mcnumpty23 made pretty good point with going with the 519GB SSD
But remember i do have a lot of games and i am really going for a build
that will make full use of the motherboard.

I do not intend to buy the PCI E SSD as of now but would like to
get one sometime in the future so that i wont have to hassle with
Speed and capacity for overall gaming.

What do you think of this dereck?

Should i go for the 512GB SSD
or get the PCI E SSD i provided in the link?

What do you think of the ONE TIME POWER SUPPLY?

And what can you say about this question

Would my CPU or overall build allow the PCI E SSD to work
at its full READ AND WRITE potential?

Remember i am willing to spend the bucks for this PCI E SSD
to get the best performance out of this build for gaming.

I am also looking to get a ONE TIME POWER SUPPLY for what ever i throw at my motherboard

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June 3, 2012 5:57:56 PM

If you have the disposable income then go for it with regards to the RevoDrive 3 X2.

If I were going to build a gaming system and needed capacity I would probably buy 2 OCZ Vertex 4 512GB drives and RAID-0 them; which would only cost $1,280. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Benchmark-wise the Vertex 4 RAID-0 would be slower than the RevoDrive 3 X2, but real-world performance-wise your game-load and level-load times would probably be the same. And as you probably know, game FPS has nothing to do with Read/Write or IOPS; that would depend on your graphics card(s).

With regards to your power supply, get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I thought 1,000 watt power supplies were really expensive but they have come down in price lately. I paid more money for my 550 watt power supply that I bought 3 years ago. :) 
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June 3, 2012 7:40:08 PM

Dereck47 said:
If you want 2 GTX 690s then in addition to the 1,000 power supply you should get a different motherboard as well.
The G1.Sniper 2 has 2 PCIe x16 slots, and when both slots are populated they run at x8.
Your PCIe SSD would have to connected to 1 of the remaining PCIe x1 slots and would not Read/Write at advertised speeds.

Get the G1.Sniper 3 motherboard instead. It has 4 PCIe x16 slots.

You can't plug a PCIe x4 card into a PCIe x1 slot. The PCIe edge connector on the card is physically just too long to fit into the shorter PCIe x1 slot.

If the OP is going to be using two double-slot width graphics cards with the OCZ RevoDrive then the G1.Sniper 2 is useless.

The OP will have no choice but to move up to the G1.Sniper 3 as you've suggested.
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June 3, 2012 7:49:24 PM

That board won't work without a BIOS update, it's a Z68 not Z77 board.
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June 3, 2012 9:07:06 PM

Yeah i am aware of the population issue with the PCIe slots and both dereck and ko888 are correct

I had totally missed derecks earlier post on the subject.

I guess that having only 1 Gtx 690 in the PCIex16 Slot would be ideal for this motherboard
till i can upgrade to a new motherboard in which both GTX 690 and OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 would benefit most when populated.


My best route to take would be that of derecks dual 512GB OCZ Vertex 4 in raid 0

Which then leaves me to this question

1. After the dual 512 SSD in RAID 0 should i then run
the remaining 2 HDD 1 TB in RAID 1 for backup?

2. What should i use my remaining PCI e slot for then
with combination of one GTX690?

3. This question is in reply to derecks 512 GB

How about this one dereck > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

would the one you suggested be better for gaming instead
of the the hyper X i like?

I really appreciate all of you guys replies

Thank you all this is very helpful for me.
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June 3, 2012 10:29:56 PM

ko888 said:
You can't plug a PCIe x4 card into a PCIe x1 slot. The PCIe edge connector on the card is physically just too long to fit into the shorter PCIe x1 slot.

If the OP is going to be using two double-slot width graphics cards with the OCZ RevoDrive then the G1.Sniper 2 is useless.

The OP will have no choice but to move up to the G1.Sniper 3 as you've suggested.



Your right, my bad on that one!
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June 3, 2012 10:30:22 PM

MeNoLikeConsoles said:
1. After the dual 512 SSD in RAID 0 should i then run
the remaining 2 HDD 1 TB in RAID 1 for backup?


Not really. I would just keep them as separate backup drives.


2. What should i use my remaining PCI e slot for then
with combination of one GTX690? said:
2. What should i use my remaining PCI e slot for then
with combination of one GTX690?


Just leave it empty. If you’re a hardcore gamer then get a Killer Ethernet card:
http://www.killergaming.com/solutions/Network_Cards


3. would the one you suggested be better for gaming instead
of the the hyper X i like? said:
3. would the one you suggested be better for gaming instead
of the the hyper X i like?


The Vertex 4 has slightly better Read/Write and IOPS specs. It also has slightly better latency (access times).
But the HyperX has better NAND (Toggle-mode).

I doubt you’ll be disappointed whichever one you decide to get.
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June 4, 2012 12:13:33 AM

Great

so i will setup my (2) HDDs 1TBs in AHCI till i am ready
to later add the two SSDs.

Will the killer network card perform well when populated
with the GTX 690?

If yes then i will definitely get me one of these.

Ok so this is my conclusion:

1.Run with my (2) HDDs in AHCI MODE to later throw in the (2) SSDs

2.Run the GTX690 with the killer network card

3.Get the 80 plus platinum 1000 fully modular power Supply

What do you think Dereck?

i am going with the Killer Network Card
Any other suggestions for the second left over PCIe slot in conjunction with the Gtx 690?
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June 4, 2012 12:31:47 AM

Looks like you got everything covered.

I don't know anything about the Killer Ethernet card. Go to the Gaming section of the Forum and see if anyone has any opinions about it. Also check the user reviews at Newegg and Amazon.
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June 4, 2012 12:47:55 AM

Best answer selected by MeNoLikeConsoles.
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June 4, 2012 12:49:14 AM

I will definitely look more into it.

Thanks again Dereck
and all you other guys for the help
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June 4, 2012 1:13:34 AM

No problem. Enjoy!!
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June 4, 2012 8:28:49 AM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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