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$1150 Newbie Build, i5 3550

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June 4, 2012 2:07:20 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: As soon as figure out what to order unless waiting a month will lower the cost a fair amount.

Budget Range: ~$1150 after rebates, although cheaper would be nice.

I do not just want to set a price and build to that price. I do not mind spending a little more for stuff if the value is there (e.x. more reliable component/ case makes assembly or wire routing easier/has better cooling/ noise reduction etc.), but I would rather spend a little less where little is lost doing so.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Home office type stuff, photoshop, surfing

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any inexpensive, reputable shops.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Nope

SLI or Crossfire: Doubt it, but feel free to convince me otherwise.

Monitor Resolution: ??

Additional Comments: I would prefer it to be somewhat quiet.

I would like it to be useful for quite a while.

I might look to use it as a home entertainment setup in the future.

Newbie builder, so I do not know what I do not know (i.e. assume I know nothing and point out the “obvious“).

This site has been a huge help in wiping away some of my ignance[sic], so thanks to all.


CPU Intel Core i5-3550 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $209.98 @ Amazon

Motherboard Asus P8H77-V LE ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $124.99 @ Newegg

The board only has one chassis fan connector. Is this a problem with a three fan case like the Corsair 650D?

Memory G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $48.99 @ Newegg

HDD Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99 @ NCIX US

SDD Mushkin Chronos Deluxe MX 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $119.99 @ Newegg

Case Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case $149.99 @ NCIX US

I was thinking I should go a little cheaper, but the 650D fits what I would like – black, a side window (then again, I am still considering Corsair 550D ), Front I/O with USB 3.0, and something that is not flashy. I like the Lian-Li cases, but the I/O on the top of the case seems like it would be a pain (can anyone comment on the top I/O?)

Power Supply SeaSonic 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $87.99 @ SuperBiiz

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS224-06 DVD/CD Writer $20.99 @ SuperBiiz

Just chose this because it is cheep and has Lightscribe.

Might add a Blue-Ray burner in the future since I do not really need one now and I assume the price with come down a bit.

Monitor ???, 20-24 inches

Cable Silverstone Tek 19 Pin USB3.0 Adapter Cable - External to Internal (CP09) $11.98

Has Corsair changed things/Do I need this with the 650D? Would I need it with the 550D?

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $98.99 @ B&H


Total: ~$965 not including monitor and shipping

More about : 1150 newbie build 3550

a b B Homebuilt system
June 4, 2012 8:41:08 PM

You can connect the fan headers directly to the PSU. The problem is it will keep on blowing at full throttle. Here is an alternative board with 3 fan headers: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Without a discrete GPU, you only really need 430W PSU. You can get a 550W one just in case you decide to add it in in the future.
a b B Homebuilt system
June 4, 2012 9:17:48 PM

If you're not a gamer, I wouldn't spend so much; here's my recommendations; buy everything from newegg.com to save on shipping costs. superbiz is ok, I used to live in san jose where they're located, but newegg is tops. Unless you live in san jose, stick with newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (my ssd; I got the rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (never had an antec power supply fail; my 350w is about six years old)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (if you have any old xp files you want to use, spend the extra for windows pro)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (3 year warranty; LED energy saving)

I have two biostar motherboards, and they work well with a variety of memory brands.
The total is about $910 including shipping after rebates.
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June 5, 2012 5:01:10 AM

Thanks for helping me dial it back a little.

So from o1die

CPU: $125
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz

What do I lose w/respect to future proofing by going with this vs. the i5-3550?
As long as I use a Z77/H77 motherboard, I will have USB 3.0, yes?

Motherboard $87
BIOSTAR H77MU3 LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX

After trolling this site for a while, I think I would rather get Asus, Gigabyte, or possibly ASRock.

The GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 ($108) listed by l0v3rboi looks good but I am still a little overwhelmed comparing boards.

What do most people do when the motherboard has fewer fan connectors than the case has fans, plug into the psu?

Memory $45
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

HDD $100
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARX 1TB IntelliPower 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Is there any appreciable difference between that and the Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($100)

Should I just get whichever is cheaper when I order?

SDD $90

OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive

Case $110

Antec Eleven Hundred Black Super Mid Tower Computer Case

Decent looking case, considering it. Went to the store and saw the Corsair 650D, it looked a lot bigger than what I had in mind.

PSU $64
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

After reading so much about not skimping here and SeaSonic being the best, I will probably stay with that company unless given a good reason to switch.

What about SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($67)?

Optical Drive $24
HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model 1270i LightScribe Support

OS $140
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM

Not sure what you mean by xp files (embarrassed sigh).

Monitor $130
Hanns-G HL229DPB Black 21.5" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor 250 cd/m2 Active Contrast 30,000,000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers


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a c 118 B Homebuilt system
June 5, 2012 7:45:28 AM

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What do I lose w/respect to future proofing by going with this vs. the i5-3550?


There isn't much of an upgrade path either way you go. LGA1155 is set to be discontinued by Intel in Q1 of next year. My advice is to get your quad core while you can.

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As long as I use a Z77/H77 motherboard, I will have USB 3.0, yes?

H77/Z77 gives you PCI 3.0, there is no real advantage to it over PCI 2.0 (the standard for video cards). They're ran benches on it:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1188376/hardwarecanucks-hd-7...

Now if you're thinking of USB 3.0 you can get that with older Z68, P/H67 Intel boards.

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After trolling this site for a while, I think I would rather get Asus, Gigabyte, or possibly ASRock.


I'd stick with Asus or Asrock myself.

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What do most people do when the motherboard has fewer fan connectors than the case has fans, plug into the psu?

Buy molex adapters or a fan speed controller unit.

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Should I just get whichever is cheaper when I order?

No. and Yes, get whatever is cheaper, hard to go wrong with Seagate of WD.


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Decent looking case, considering it. Went to the store and saw the Corsair 650D, it looked a lot bigger than what I had in mind.

I have one of these, I love it. But yes, it is a big full tower case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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After reading so much about not skimping here and SeaSonic being the best, I will probalby stay with that company unless given a good reason to switch.


Sea Sonic is very good, keep in mind they also make the Corsair TX series, and many other branded PSUs as well.
June 6, 2012 3:30:23 PM

CPU:
Sorry for asking but I have not been able to find anything with respect to i3-2120 ($125) vs. i5-3550 ($210) that I can understand.

Will there be any appreciable difference general multitasking use (I tend to keep a lot of stuff open)?

Will the i5-3550 make for a computer with a longer useful life so that down the road the $85 will seem like money well spent?

Basically, what would I be getting for the extra money?

Motherboard
I have decided to go with Asus, and thought the ASUS P8H77-V LE LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX at $132 would be good.

But if the rebate is still going on when I order I think I will go with ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS for $125.

Good choice?

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Buy molex adapters or a fan speed controller unit.

With the molex adapters, I would connect to the psu?
a b B Homebuilt system
June 6, 2012 5:07:13 PM

The i3 is a dual core processor while the i5 is a quad core processor. It also helps that i5 has turbo boost which means that during periods of loads, the CPU will overclock itself so that it runs faster. As such, technically, the i5 is more capable with multi-tasking. I don't know by how much though.

Another thing to note is that the i5 you chose is Ivy-Bridge based while the i3-2120 is Sandy Bridge based. With your MoBo choice, you will not be able to take advantage of PCI Express 3.0 with the i3. Also, IB i3's are not available yet (as far as I know). So, if you want to stick with i3's but want PCI Express 3.0, then you will have to wait until they come out.

The p8z77v-LK is also a good MoBo. You can also look at this MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard. You can SLI/xFire with this MoBo and it had 4 fan connectors (3 system fans and 1 cpu fan).

I don't have one but I assume you plug in power to the fan speed controller unit and attach the fans to the unit. That way your fan does not go full throttle all the time.
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