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$2000 Gaming PC Build

Any tweaks can be done to this? The limit is $2500, so I can afford a few upgrades if needed. Any feedback or advice? Though the GTX 680 is out of stock at the moment and I use the Canadian Newegg site. I do not want any American sites.

http://secure.newegg.ca/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=19503092

I prefer intel, nvidia, ASUS and Corsair.

I forgot to add: I am later planning to add in a second graphics card once it is needed, so I will need SLI.

I live in Canada and I already have my own selection of accessories and monitor so it is not needed.
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  1. It generally looks good. My only comment is the PSU. You won't need 850W for that machine, even after SLI. Compare your build to the system builder marathon one that was posted this morning on Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3770k-overclock-geforce-gtx-680,3212-15.html "The new machine’s actual power consumption at the wall is less than 400 W, which means the power supply’s output was less than 360 W (according to its efficiency test sheet). If a possible SLI upgrade isn’t enough for your future-proofing needs, consider that you could run two of these complete platforms from just one of its 750 W-output power supplies."

    You could definitely use a 750W or even likely a good 650/700W PSU. (Your processor will use slightly more power, since it's SB not IB, but it's only about 20W difference.)
  2. motorneuron said:
    It generally looks good. My only comment is the PSU. You won't need 850W for that machine, even after SLI. Compare your build to the system builder marathon one that was posted this morning on Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3770k-overclock-geforce-gtx-680,3212-15.html "The new machine’s actual power consumption at the wall is less than 400 W, which means the power supply’s output was less than 360 W (according to its efficiency test sheet). If a possible SLI upgrade isn’t enough for your future-proofing needs, consider that you could run two of these complete platforms from just one of its 750 W-output power supplies."

    You could definitely use a 750W or even likely a good 650/700W PSU. (Your processor will use slightly more power, since it's SB not IB, but it's only about 20W difference.)


    I changed to a 750W PSU, should be fine now.
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    The GTX 670 is giving performance numbers almost as good as the GTX 680 for a lot less money. You can save $100 per card by going with the 670.

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3way-sli-review/14

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-2-and-3way-sli-review/15

    EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    $429.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787

    I would go with a better brand of power supply;

    SeaSonic M12II 850 SS-850AM 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply
    $159.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108

    You could also go with the gold certified model for $60 more;

    SeaSonic X Series X-850 (SS-850KM Active PFC F3) 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    $219.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102

    For another $20 you can opt for the Platinum model;

    SeaSonic Platinum Platinum-860 860W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    $239.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111

    I would also go with the Ivy Bridge cpu and by doing so you will have the three parts that are needed for the Pci-e 3.0 to function and since you already have the MB and video card the last part needed was the cpu. Currently it's out of stock but will be back in stock soon.

    Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
    $349.99
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

    If you made these changes and even going with the Platinum psu you would still be under budget because of the video card savings.
  4. I have a few comments:

    1) Few games use more than 2 or 3 cores. That makes the extra hyperthreads on the 2600k largely irrelevant. Ditto for the 3770K. The extra $100 you spend there can be more productively used elsewhere.
    I suggest the newer 3570K. It does not need to OC so high because it is stronger, clock for clock than the 2500K.

    2) For gamers, 8gb is usually the sweet spot. No game I know of actually uses more than 2-3gb by itself. That said, there is a plus to 16gb; windows will keep more code in ram, ready for instant reuse.
    Buy a single 16gb kit.
    Ram is sold in kits for a reason.
    Ram from the same vendor and part number can be made up of differing manufacturing components over time.
    Some motherboards can be very sensitive to this.
    That is why ram vendors will not support ram that is not bought in one kit.
    Although, I think the problem has lessened with the newer Intel chipsets. Still,
    it is safer to get what you need in one kit.
    Also, 1.5v ram does not need heat spreaders. Tall heat spreaders will interfere with most cpu coolers. Buy a low profile kit.

    3) I would not include Kingwin in my list of acceptable psu brands. It is a tier 3 or 4 unit on this older list:
    http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
    Stick with known quality brands like Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, PC P&C, or XFX.

    4) For the SSD, Samsung 830 and Intel seem to be the most trouble free. Performance among all new ssd's will be so similar in actual usage that it takes a synthetic benchmark to tell the difference.
  5. NCIX.us has win 7 on sale today for $80. Save $30. Also, a low profile RAM kit will be better. G-Skill is cheaper on Newegg. Corsair Vengeance is cheaper on Amazon. They perform about the same.
  6. CHanges have been made. Put in the Ivy Bridge 3770k and Platinum PSU. Also added 4x4GB Memory Cards and a 240GB Intel SSD.
  7. The choice of a power supply is one that you can make to suit your needs and it doesn't matter if you have extra because you only use what the computer needs to run. I always have a bigger power supply that what's needed so that if the occasion arises that more power is needed then it's there. Running two video cards I would stick with the 850w just because you have that extra in reserve if it's needed.
  8. inzone said:
    The choice of a power supply is one that you can make to suit your needs and it doesn't matter if you have extra because you only use what the computer needs to run. I always have a bigger power supply that what's needed so that if the occasion arises that more power is needed then it's there. Running two video cards I would stick with the 850w just because you have that extra in reserve if it's needed.


    Thanks for the reply, now the price of the computer is pretty nice! I will have to wait for the 3770k to restock though for it isn't.
  9. Aleonris said:
    CHanges have been made. Put in the Ivy Bridge 3770k and Platinum PSU. Also added 4x4GB Memory Cards and a 240GB Intel SSD.


    Top notch changes.

    Your link still shows vengeance high heat spreaders.
    I suggest something like this:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233280
  10. geofelt said:
    Top notch changes.

    Your link still shows vengeance high heat spreaders.
    I suggest something like this:
    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233280


    What's the difference between having 4x4 and 2x8?
  11. Just looked at your changes and the build looks awsome , nice choice on the Intel SSD. I was debating between that one and the Samsung 830 a few months ago and ended up with the Samsung , they are both good SSD's and highly rated and the 240gb SSD seems to me to be the optimum size for the boot drive because it gives you room for the OS and a few games and apps without worrying about space.
    The info on the ram is correct because I bought 24gb of ram thinking it would be great for gaming but one day I had the resource monitor up on the second screen and I saw how much ram was being used during a game and it didn't go over 5gb. My next build will be 8gb unless games start using more.
  12. I read someplace once that it's not a good thing to fill up all the ram slots so the 2x8 would be better.
  13. You are wasting $ on a Platinum rated PSU. A TX750 v2 will run just fine. The $ saved can be used to get a Crucial M4 SSD.
  14. Best answer selected by Aleonris.
  15. Aleonris said:
    What's the difference between having 4x4 and 2x8?


    Really, not that much.
    1) 2x8 makes it a bit easier for the motherboard to manage ram while overclocking. 2 sticks is easier than 4.

    2) 2 x 8 preserves your option to go to 32gb if you should ever want it. Some 64 bit enabled apps can use ram as workspace to omprove performance.
  16. Both the Intel Cherryville and Samsung 830 have much better read/write speeds than the Crucial M4.
  17. inzone said:
    Both the Intel Cherryville and Samsung 830 have much better read/write speeds than the Crucial M4.


    Yeah haha, and that's what I want.
  18. Good luck with your nice looking build , you'll be crushing those games for some time to come especially once you add that second 670.
  19. inzone said:
    Good luck with your nice looking build , you'll be crushing those games for some time to come especially once you add that second 670.


    Thanks for the help and feedback. I probably won't be putting that second 670 for a while. At least not until games start getting demanding. :lol:
  20. Games like BF3 and Metro 2033 can take advantage of the two 670's now because those two games are extremely hard on video cards and to get 60+ fps you need two cards.
  21. inzone said:
    Games like BF3 and Metro 2033 can take advantage of the two 670's now because those two games are extremely hard on video cards and to get 60+ fps you need two cards.


    BF3 and Skyrim are the games I'm aiming to play. (On Ultra) Is the 670 good enough for that? Or maybe just a 680?
  22. The 670 will be fine for those games.
  23. I just realized something. The SSD I have listed is a Laptop SSD and I can't seem to find desktop SSDs...
  24. You don't need to seek out desktop-specific SSDs, because there are none. An SSD is 2.5", whereas normal hard drives for desktops have traditionally been 3.5". But many newer desktop cases have bays that can fit a 2.5" drive. For those that don't, you can just buy an adapter (two pieces of metal for like three dollars) that you can use to screw into the 3.5" bay to allow it to fit a 2.5" drive.
  25. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147135

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147164

    The difference between these two SSD's is that one comes with the metal adaptor pieces for installing the SSD in a 3.5" bay and the other does not , so your paying $18 for those adaptors and the two SSD's are exactly the same.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147138

    This one is also the same SSD and it comes with what you need for it to go into a laptop.
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