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June 4, 2012 8:04:41 PM

I've been doing some asking around and researching about building a budget rig ($700 USD-ish) to play WoW, Diablo 3, Skyrim and Steam games on high-max settings, and to use for work/school (iTunes, Office, internet, etc). I initially came up with this build on pcpartspicker utilizing an ivy-bridge 3450 and the 6870 graphics card ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9iOi ). It has parts listed from a number of sites, including amazon, which I have a $30 gift card to (I am not close to a Microcenter so their deals are essentially off-limits to me). This whole build, after rebates and such, would cost me about $695 (Note: I don't need an OS or monitor or keyboard/mouse). A number of forums and people have suggested going to an i3-2120 and 7850 GPU build, though, as the 6870 will "hinder my gaming" but no one's been able to give me a definitive answer about that. How much hindrance am I going to see on the i5-3450/6870 build vs the i3-2130/7850 build? The i3/7850 build ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9iIA ) actually ends up costing me between 30-60 more depending on the sites used (Amazon either has the 7850 cards listed at $300-320, or they won't ship for almost a month). I threw this build together as well, and it seems reasonable for the i3/7850 build ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9jCK ) but again, the card is listed as coming from Amazon and the actual cards there are either unavailable or 50-80 dollars more than the listed price.

tl;dr - I'd like to make a 700ish gaming rig for D3, Wow, Skyrim, Steam on high-max. Came up with http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9iOi build for longevity and power, so far this is the cheapest because I can get the parts NOW instead of waiting and I have a $30 gift card to Amazon (where the processor is cheapest already). Have been told the 6870 and 3450 will hinder my gaming and that I should do either http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9iIA or http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9jCK, but they cost more and the parts will take longer to ship from Amazon. Thoughts?

Thanks to anyone who reads this - I appreciate your input, positive or negative.
June 4, 2012 8:16:30 PM

There is a big difference between the 6870 and 7850, a 20% difference at stock, and a 30-50% advantage for the 7850 if you are overclocking. If I were you, I would go for the i3+7850. However, the 6870 does fine playing the games you listed, so if you don't think you will buy any more demanding games in the next year, you will be fine with the 6870. Again, the 7850 will help you future proof significantly even if you don't have anything that needs it now, if you think you will play more demanding games in the near future, go for it. If not, the 6870 will be just fine.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/540?vs=549
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June 4, 2012 8:20:14 PM

Fill out the new build form in the new build section of the forum.
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June 4, 2012 8:20:38 PM

I would say that the reason the 3450/6870 would hinder your gaming is because of the card and not the cpu, you could still get the 3450 and get the 7850 instead and improve your gaming. I'm sure it won't be good for your budget but that's where the 2130 comes in. The thing with building a gaming rig is the most imp-ortant part is the video card and when you styart talking about playing at high/max settings then your video card has to be a good model and you will have a better chance at playing at those settings with a 7859 then a 6870.
The issue that your having is your budget and what settings you want to play the games at , don't forget all games are different and they all require different components to play at high/max settings so when building a Pc for gaming you do have to get the most video card that you can for the money that you have.
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June 4, 2012 8:49:04 PM

geekapproved said:
Fill out the new build form in the new build section of the forum.

The only reason I didn't fill one out was that I have the 3 builds, not just one, and the more critical issue for me was whether or not I'm going to see a huge difference between the two.
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June 4, 2012 8:51:34 PM

Merueth said:
There is a big difference between the 6870 and 7850, a 20% difference at stock, and a 30-50% advantage for the 7850 if you are overclocking. If I were you, I would go for the i3+7850. However, the 6870 does fine playing the games you listed, so if you don't think you will buy any more demanding games in the next year, you will be fine with the 6870. Again, the 7850 will help you future proof significantly even if you don't have anything that needs it now, if you think you will play more demanding games in the near future, go for it. If not, the 6870 will be just fine.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/540?vs=549


inzone said:
I would say that the reason the 3450/6870 would hinder your gaming is because of the card and not the cpu, you could still get the 3450 and get the 7850 instead and improve your gaming. I'm sure it won't be good for your budget but that's where the 2130 comes in. The thing with building a gaming rig is the most imp-ortant part is the video card and when you styart talking about playing at high/max settings then your video card has to be a good model and you will have a better chance at playing at those settings with a 7859 then a 6870.
The issue that your having is your budget and what settings you want to play the games at , don't forget all games are different and they all require different components to play at high/max settings so when building a Pc for gaming you do have to get the most video card that you can for the money that you have.



Thanks to both of you. I guess the extra 50-60 bucks is a better idea then. What about the longevity of the chipset? I'm not a huge gamer, and so while I want to be able to play a few games right now at high-max, I don't forsee tons and tons of games piling up on the PC. Is it better in the long run - assuming right now I need to stay as close to 700 as possible - to get the 3450 and 6870 and worry about upgrading the GPU later as opposed to upgrading the MB/CPU later?
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June 4, 2012 9:19:39 PM

The easiest thing to upgrade is the video card so if you address the cpu and motherboard now then you can always take care of the video card later. You may want to make sure that the motherboard that you get has two x16 slots that will run at x16 or x8 , the one you have selected has the second x16 slot running at x4 so if you are thinking of adding a second card then you will need a different motherboard , if you go with a single new card then it will be ok but you can't add a second card and get full use out of it. This one has the two slots for two cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As far as which to do now that's your call because you will be gaming with the video card that you go with now and it will depend on when later is. Only you know your financial situation and when you will be able to upgrade later so if you go with the 6870 now then if the gameplay isn't good then you'll have to play at lower settings and resolution untill you get a different video card. That's why I said it's your call , because your the one that will be dealing with the computer that you build.
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