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June 5, 2012 7:39:12 AM

Guys I have :

Motherboard: ASUS P5KPL-AM SE

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7400

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT

RAM: 2GB DDR2


I got this PC last 2006 or 2008 not sure. So it is 4-6 years old already.

I need cheap but has great performance that can run games smoothly for another 4-6 years.

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June 5, 2012 11:42:16 AM

You can get the most performance improvement by upgrading the GPU. The question is what is your monitor resolution & what is your power supply capacity, brand & model?
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June 5, 2012 12:20:49 PM

i agree to upgrade your GPU, but if you really want to upgrade, go for Sandy Bridge i3 or i5 2400 for budget gaming rig
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June 5, 2012 12:34:03 PM

What do you mean by monitor resolution? I cant get my PC to open I dont have a good screwdriver at this time.

Is there much difference in i3 and i5?
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June 5, 2012 12:40:05 PM

i guess what randomkid means is that what resolution do you play your games? correct me if i'm wrong.

for dual core applications or tasks (especially in games), there's not much of a difference between i3 and i5. but if the load requires more than 2 cores, that's where the difference becomes noticeable. and i guess i5 is more for future proofing than i3...that's how i see it and in my opinion though :) 
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June 5, 2012 12:47:19 PM

If that's the case it should be around 1024x768. Even my resolution on my computer itself is 1024x768.

So do you mean if we are talking about gaming there's no much difference on core 2 duo and i3/i5?

And does my motherboard need to upgrade as well if I should upgrade my GPU or processor?

Sorry for alot of questions I just need to assure what to upgrade

BTW my power supply is Powerlogic and I dont know what to look in there but it says "500W | MAX 550W" Something like that. And I am willing to overclock my PC.
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June 5, 2012 12:56:39 PM

no no no!!! comparison only between the i3 and i5 :)  but i suggest to get the i5 'cause you will benefit more from having 4 real cores than 2. hmm if you will upgrade to Sandy Bridge, yes you need to upgrade your board to 1155 socket, RAM, and for better gaming, GPU
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June 5, 2012 1:01:03 PM

Heres a build suggestion, I am assuming that you will keep your current monitor, keyboard, mouse and OS.

Intel Core i5-3450S 199.99
MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 116.99
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK 42.99
ASUS HD7770-2GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 2GB 128-bit GDDR5 164.99
Western Digital RE4 WD5003ABYX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" -Bare Drive 99.99
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W 74.99
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 49.99

Total 749.93 Canadian

Note : Price does not include Taxes or shipping
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June 5, 2012 1:21:52 PM

iMonty said:
If that's the case it should be around 1024x768. Even my resolution on my computer itself is 1024x768.
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BTW my power supply is Powerlogic and I dont know what to look in there but it says "500W | MAX 550W" Something like that. And I am willing to overclock my PC.

At 1024x768, your monitor is probably 15" right? At this resolution, you do not need to upgrade your processor at all. And unless you plan on upgrading your monitor to higher resolution like 1920x1080, you do not need any GPU more than an AMD 6670.
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June 5, 2012 1:23:15 PM

Ohh.

Thanks for the suggestion but Im kinda short in cash so I need a budget upgrade.

Is it possible to play latest games by just upgrading GPU and some RAM? I want to play it smoothly I don't much need the looks in it.

Can you guys suggest me a good motherboard and GPU? Cheap ones but good :) 
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June 5, 2012 1:29:08 PM

What is your budget..... Since everything revolves around money how much do you have to spend.

I would advise against putting alot of money on your current system as your going to be looking at a full upgrade in the near future.

It also depends on what sort of games you want to play
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June 5, 2012 1:43:03 PM

My monitor is 17 or 18 inches. Should I increase my resolution?

My budget is around 250-350 USD

What do you mean Im going to be looking at a full upgrade in the near future?

The games that I play are games like Assassins Creed. AC Revelations are kinda laggy in my PC but playable but the cutscenes are lagged on visuals.

My resolution in my PC is 1152x864. My bad the other one is the resolution I play in games.
Im planning on increasing my resolution a bit. Like 1280x960. Or is my resolution okay?
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June 5, 2012 1:48:59 PM

Your current motherboard is a socket 775 upgrading your current motherboard would not be useful as you would have to change the processor as the newer core i3/i5/i7 are using socket 1155.

so if you change your motherboard you might as well upgrade the processor at the same time.

For your current budget i would at least an extra 2 gigs of ram, ideally 4

Videocard id look at a midrange card : ATI 6770/7770 Nvidia 550/560.

Both of these together would give your a pc a good shot in the arm and should stay below your 250$ budget.
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June 5, 2012 1:49:52 PM

if those are the games you play, you won't be needing a higher end GPU. and if you plan on upgrading and as a suggestion from your post, for the budget you can get ASRock H61 U3S3 and i3/i5 Sandy Bridge. mind you though that you'll need new RAMs
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June 5, 2012 1:52:38 PM

Can the said video card be used in any of those two kinds of motherboard? Cause I dont want to buy another GPU if I'm planning on upgrading my motherboard and processor.

BTW what do you mean by "Im going to be looking at a full upgrade in the near future"?
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June 5, 2012 1:56:06 PM

rdx07 said:
if those are the games you play, you won't be needing a higher end GPU. and if you plan on upgrading and as a suggestion from your post, for the budget you can get ASRock H61 U3S3 and i3/i5 Sandy Bridge. mind you though that you'll need new RAMs

What kind of games that needs a high end PC? Cause I play different types of games.
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June 5, 2012 1:58:45 PM

of course! as long as it's PCIE :)  for mid-high end GPU, games like crysis, metro2033, etc. but you might wanna lower the settings especially for Revelations if you'll use your previous one
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June 5, 2012 2:12:19 PM

iMonty said:
My monitor is 17 or 18 inches. Should I increase my resolution?
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My resolution in my PC is 1152x864. My bad the other one is the resolution I play in games.
Im planning on increasing my resolution a bit. Like 1280x960. Or is my resolution okay?

Your resolution statement is quite confusing. a 17" monitor is usually 1280x1024 while an 18.5" is 1366x768. There are also 19" monitors that have 1440x900. To remove any doubt, can you give brand & model of you monitor.


iMonty said:

My budget is around 250-350 USD

It's a good budget. In my opinion, you do not need to upgrade processor & motherboard at all. Get additional 2GB maybe + the decent GPU that is match to your monitor & your PC is still good for a year or two.
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June 5, 2012 2:17:06 PM

agree to randomkid :)  just gave suggestions in case you want to upgrade. but what randomkid said can help you save a lot
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June 5, 2012 2:20:32 PM

@Randomkid
Ohh you mean the resoultion of the monitor itself? I thought the one you set on settings lol. My monitor came from korea. I dont think if this is good. The brand name is Hyunju computer.

My budget includes the cost for cooling system cause Im thinking to overclock my system.

ATI 7770 or Nvidia 560? Will this GPU last for a bit long?
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June 5, 2012 2:23:29 PM

@rdx07
Yeah I just need a PC to play incoming games smoothly. Im not a graphics fan boy anyways lol.

I think Ill save the motherboard and CPU for later.

BTW I'm planning to upgrade at around late October. So by then the prices have dropped :D 
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June 5, 2012 2:27:28 PM

well that's a good approach :)  that's how i'll do it too if i'm to buy. wait 'til the price drops :D  the GPUs above, man!!! sure it will last for long! not just a bit!xD more than the 6790 which i plan on buying! hahaha
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June 5, 2012 2:31:56 PM

Quick question ATI 7770 or NVidia 560?
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June 5, 2012 2:33:58 PM

iMonty said:
@Randomkid
Ohh you mean the resoultion of the monitor itself? I thought the one you set on settings lol.

:lol:  Actually, you get the best results when you set the resolution at the display settings equal to the native resolution of your monitor. Usually, Windows will say "(Recommended)" beside the resolution that is native to monitor. Like this:




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So what resolution does Window recommend for your monitor?


iMonty said:
@Randomkid
My budget includes the cost for cooling system cause Im thinking to overclock my system.

ATI 7770 or Nvidia 560? Will this GPU last for a bit long?

Yes. GPU usually last very long & are often outdated before they fail. However, I think your powerlogic PSU will not support these GPU because powerlogic is not refutable Power supply. They are okay for GPU's which does not require 6PCIe connectors like 7750 800Mhz & below.
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June 5, 2012 2:36:04 PM

There is no Recommended. Dunno why =))

So what PSU should I get?

Is it okay to overclock my PC?
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June 5, 2012 2:39:28 PM

iMonty said:
There is no Recommended. Dunno why =))

So what PSU should I get?

Is it okay to overclock my PC?

If the computer store you are buying from have a website, give us the link so we can make our recommendations based on what is available from there.
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June 5, 2012 2:42:58 PM

Im planning to buy on a store rather than on a website. I live in the philippines dont know if theres good websited out there that can ship here cheap.

EDIT:
I have a spare PC that has NVidia Geforce 7300 GT. Is that good?
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June 5, 2012 3:26:16 PM

Just my two cents here.

I used to have a PC with E7200 in it, which is in the same family as your E7400.

I found that at stock speeds (2.53GHz), my GTS 250 was being held back by lack of CPU performance. A modest overclock to 3.2GHz helped alleviate some FPS dips in Call of Duty 4 and Company of Heroes.

A GTX 560 is much more powerful than the GTS 250 and so I strongly recommend you consider a modest overclock to ~3.2GHz.
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June 5, 2012 3:32:30 PM

I was thinking on overclocking but I dont know how lol.

And I think Ill get the ATI 7770 rather than the Nvidia one

EDIT:
I researched a bit and found out that 6850 is better than 7770? Is that true? And the price is nothing much of a difference.
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June 5, 2012 3:58:05 PM

iMonty said:
I was thinking on overclocking but I dont know how lol.


There are plenty of Intel overclocking guides on the web.

If your motherboard is a Gigabyte:

http://www.overclock.net/t/254734/gigabyte-ga-p35-ds3l-...


A general guide to overclocking Core 2 Duo and Quads:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515...

Give those a try, if you are willing to explore.

As usual, I take no responsibility for burned, fried or damaged hardware. Do this at your own risk.
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June 5, 2012 4:17:29 PM

iMonty said:
I was thinking on overclocking but I dont know how lol.

And I think Ill get the ATI 7770 rather than the Nvidia one

EDIT:
I researched a bit and found out that 6850 is better than 7770? Is that true? And the price is nothing much of a difference.

In most games & benchmarks, yes. The 6850 is better. But not too far. The 7770 however have 10% less power consumption. You can not go wrong with either. Choose the cheaper. But again, we are not sure if your Powerlogic psu can handle it. Does it have a 6PIN PCIe connector, at least?
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June 5, 2012 4:23:17 PM

iMonty said:
Im planning to buy on a store rather than on a website. I live in the philippines dont know if theres good websited out there that can ship here cheap.

EDIT:
I have a spare PC that has NVidia Geforce 7300 GT. Is that good?

It is close to your 9400GT actually. Good enough for browsing, watching movies & facebook games.
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June 5, 2012 5:39:03 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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June 5, 2012 6:54:44 PM

I knew it!!! hahaha I'm a Filipino too kababayan! :D  when i first read about powerlogic i thought about if you live in the Philippines haha where do you plan to shop?
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June 6, 2012 3:22:05 AM

randomkid said:
In most games & benchmarks, yes. The 6850 is better. But not too far. The 7770 however have 10% less power consumption. You can not go wrong with either. Choose the cheaper. But again, we are not sure if your Powerlogic psu can handle it. Does it have a 6PIN PCIe connector, at least?


I think Ill buy a new PSU if im going to upgrade my GPU. What do you mean 6PIN PCIe connector? I dont know what that is hahaha.
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June 6, 2012 3:23:21 AM

rdx07 said:
I knew it!!! hahaha I'm a Filipino too kababayan! :D  when i first read about powerlogic i thought about if you live in the Philippines haha where do you plan to shop?

I dont know yet. Can you recommend me a shop?
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June 6, 2012 6:06:57 AM

the 6pin PCIe connector is the one that will power up your GPU :)  hmmm be a tpc member for greater discounts and i suggest to buy at gilmore :) 
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June 6, 2012 6:28:38 AM

TPC member? And where is gilmore?
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June 6, 2012 10:20:32 AM

yup! i'll send you a personal message about TPC and gilmore :) 
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June 6, 2012 1:33:05 PM

Where do I look for your PM?

EDIT: NVM I already found it
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June 14, 2012 8:39:54 AM

Best answer selected by iMonty.
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