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Is this gpu onboard or not? (acer aspire 5740g _ ati radeon 5650)

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April 7, 2012 2:00:53 PM

hi!

is this gpu onboard or not? (acer aspire 5740g _ ati radeon 5650)


mainboard (acer aspire 5740g): http://oi40.tinypic.com/qx07q1.jpg

gpu (ati mobility radeon 5650): http://oi44.tinypic.com/34y7ml4.jpg


thanks!

a c 291 U Graphics card
April 7, 2012 2:05:33 PM

It's not onboard GPU as in conventional part of the motherboard, it is a discrete one. But I think it's soldered to your motherboard anyway so you cannot upgrade it.
April 7, 2012 2:09:57 PM

Sunius said:
It's not onboard GPU as in conventional part of the motherboard, it is a discrete one. But I think it's soldered to your motherboard anyway so you cannot upgrade it.


so what is the meaning of discrete or onboard gpu?
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a c 291 U Graphics card
April 7, 2012 2:13:04 PM

Discrete - it was manufactured separately, and sold separately as different product. Note: laptop manufacturers buy them from different vendors, but when they assemble it, it becomes one piece of the machine. Afaik, you can only upgrade laptop DVD drive/hard drive/RAM.

Also discrete graphics cards have their own memory, and not stealing them from system RAM, like onboard solutions do.
April 7, 2012 2:24:45 PM

Sunius said:
Discrete - it was manufactured separately, and sold separately as different product. Note: laptop manufacturers buy them from different vendors, but when they assemble it, it becomes one piece of the machine. Afaik, you can only upgrade laptop DVD drive/hard drive/RAM.

Also discrete graphics cards have their own memory, and not stealing them from system RAM, like onboard solutions do.



ok! and what is name we give for laptop's upgradeables graphic cards?
a c 291 U Graphics card
April 7, 2012 2:39:10 PM

Hmm I don't think they have a special name, because only 1% of laptops (maybe even less) features such a thing, and they are usually high-end gaming laptops that cost $3000. They also are plugged to a special slot (no idea how it's called though), and not soldered into the motherboard.
April 7, 2012 3:09:06 PM

Sunius said:
Hmm I don't think they have a special name, because only 1% of laptops (maybe even less) features such a thing, and they are usually high-end gaming laptops that cost $3000. They also are plugged to a special slot (no idea how it's called though), and not soldered into the motherboard.


this is my gpu info: http://oi42.tinypic.com/o07483.jpg

why in "bus interface" it says: "pci-e 2.0x16" ?

doesn't "pci-e 2.0x16" look like something like this: http://www.karbosguide.com/books/pcarchitecture/images/... ?


what does it mean?

a c 291 U Graphics card
April 7, 2012 3:14:21 PM

PCI-express 2.0 is actually a bus interface, not slot. On normal computers you can get to it by PCI-express slot, but in laptops and other non-standard computers it can be anything, really.
April 7, 2012 3:56:35 PM

Sunius said:
PCI-express 2.0 is actually a bus interface, not slot. On normal computers you can get to it by PCI-express slot, but in laptops and other non-standard computers it can be anything, really.

are you sure tha pci-e 2.0 x16 has nothing to be about the laptop's slot?

look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P6NKrzEJo8&feature=rela...

it's clearly that the gpu is plugged into a pci-e 2.0 x16! am i right?

is there no possibility so i can check how my gpu is plugged into my laptop's mainboard in windows 7 ?

a c 291 U Graphics card
April 7, 2012 3:59:38 PM

Nope, the only way to see is to disassemble it, and if the pictures that you gave me are of your laptop, it's not like in that video.
April 8, 2012 2:01:55 AM

Sunius said:
Nope, the only way to see is to disassemble it, and if the pictures that you gave me are of your laptop, it's not like in that video.

no! it's not necessary! mine doesn't have upgradable gpu!

and by tha way, they are called mxm! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_PCI_Express_Module

thanks!
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